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updating to win7
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Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:17 pm
by Tikker
99% the install on my upstairs media center. pretty fast and painless process on a semi modern machine (it's an am2 board)
going to 64 bit so i can add another 4gb of ram into this machine (it's eventually going to be the fileserver as I migrate to sagetv)
so far it's been pretty nice. the install was easier than XP (which was easy,just longish) really painless, and without any prompting it found all the other machines on my network, didn't have to fuck around with joining a work group, it just did it
i'm curious to see how it handles the HD-PVR when I toss it at it, but so far so good
1 down, 2 more to go
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:22 pm
by Arlos
Doesn't it require a full system wipe when upgrading from XP? Read somewhere that you can't do a graceful upgrade, it has to completelyw ipe the drive and start over. That the case?
-Arlos
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:42 pm
by Tikker
yup
but unlike XP (which I really liked, and never had any real problems with) I didn't have to go find codecs, or install each piece of hardware, etc etc
I think the most trouble I had was hauling a monitor up by the tv (tv wouldn't recognize the pc while i was in the bios)
really, very little issues with the actual install. I got home at 5:30ish, had supper at 6 until lets say 6:30 and now at 8:30 i've been watching the football game in HighDef for the last 30-35 minutes
I think if I hadn't had to reboot the machine 10-12 times for the stupid hauppauge box, I'd have been done 30 minutes earlier (it doesn't help that I turned quick boot off earlier to fiddle with the bios earlier)
but really, easily the most painless install I've ever had
ubuntu 6-8 months ago was also really painless, but this was even better
so far I'd highly recommend it to anyone on XP or vista.
I think i even found a way to integrate the hdpvr into windows itself, rather than having to toss sage on top
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:23 pm
by brinstar
i got a legit copy of win7 64bit for $16 (woot, student discount) but haven't slapped it on the laptop yet
think i'll wait until the semester's over (i graduate in 7 weeks WOOT) before fucking with my setup
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:57 pm
by Arlos
Given that my brother works at the evil Empire, I can probably get a free copy without difficulty, but I am going to wait until either SP1 comes along, or until such time as I decide to get a new hard drive to put it on as my boot disk, and just convert my current one into a data drive. I really don't feel like copying eveyr single piece of data off of the drive, then tracking down all of my installation disks for all of my programs and then re-install and re-patch everything.
-Arlos
Re: updating to win7
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Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:05 am
by Drem
unless it's different than rc1, when you install windows 7 it just upgrades your OS. all your old files go to c:\windows.old folder. they're past time-consuming shit like backing things up these days
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:33 am
by Arlos
Last I read, Windows 7 does things differently. If you are upgrading from XP, you need to do a complete reformat of your drive from the ground up, so yes, everything on it before is gone. If you upgrade from Vista, though, it's much more graceful apparently.
So, unless my information is wrong (and I just checked it again), what you are saying is not accurate.
-Arlos
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:47 am
by ClakarEQ
No you don't have to reformat and you can just do what Drem noted. It will essentially rename the current windows dir to windows.old and install itself into windows.
I had to get some custom drivers on my old dell d810 to enable Aero but other than that, I've been impressed with this version so far and for any MS product to really impress me, well last time was the jump from windows 3.1 to 95 :p
EDIT
Just wanted to clarify that it isn't an upgrade so you do lose all your apps and such but it isn't a clean format install either.
EDIT x2
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/libr ... 6674(WS.10).aspx
Has several routes, vista to w7, xp to w7, etc
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:18 pm
by Tikker
XP to win7 requires a clean install. unless you're the type that doesn't partition the drive, chances are you won't have enough space on your OS partition to slap win7 on as well
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:11 pm
by Gidan
I still have my current version of Windows 7 for a few more months but then will need to get a legit copy
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:15 pm
by Tikker
the 3x home licence for 200ish bucks was a good deal imo
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:27 pm
by Gidan
I would go nuts without being able to RDP into the computer. That's really the only downside to the lower versions. I use so little of the Ultimate version I am running except RDP.
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:51 am
by Lyion
Tikker wrote:the 3x home licence for 200ish bucks was a good deal imo
I preordered 3 for 49.99 each since I use them as my PVRs in my office, living room, and bedroom. I was lucky enough to win an Ultimate copy, so I'll ebay my third in a few weeks when the homers are done with their first rounds on ebay.
I have nothing but good things to say about Win 7 for Media Center. My only complaint is my 360 RROD over the summer, but I have a spare Linksys extender I'm using in place.
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:41 pm
by Gidan
Where in the world did yall find your copies so cheap. The cheapest I was able to find (Outside of through the MS employee store) was about $100 for Home
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:48 pm
by Tikker
Gidan wrote:I would go nuts without being able to RDP into the computer. That's really the only downside to the lower versions. I use so little of the Ultimate version I am running except RDP.
you can RDP into any version of windows7
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:57 am
by Lyion
Gidan wrote:Where in the world did yall find your copies so cheap. The cheapest I was able to find (Outside of through the MS employee store) was about $100 for Home
In July MS had a promotion where one could preorder Win 7 Home Premium for 49.99
I jumped on that as I wanted to update all three of my Media Center PCs I have around my house.
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:42 am
by Tikker
Gidan wrote:Where in the world did yall find your copies so cheap. The cheapest I was able to find (Outside of through the MS employee store) was about $100 for Home
the standard 3pack home premium upgrade here is 200 bucks in every store
not sure what that is in the states, but I suspect 200 or less
it came with both 32bit and 64 bit versions
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:40 am
by Nusk
i am liking windows 7 very much so far. still hate the UAC always asking me if i really want to run certain programs, but it is definitely faster than vista
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:59 am
by Tikker
so turn UAC off then
it's really simple to do so
Re: updating to win7
Posted:
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:34 pm
by Lyion
Tikker wrote:so turn UAC off then
it's really simple to do so
It's also a really bad idea. UAC is irritating, but a nice deterrent for things that go bump in the night. You shouldn't need to run it every time you run a program.
You'll appreciate it if you ever get a keylogger or other program that tries to execute in the background.
Re: updating to win7
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Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:35 am
by brinstar
made the jump thursday, liking it so far
upgrading from vista was great, it kept everything right where it was