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Phlegm wrote:LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Jason Kidd, Tayshaun Prince, Carlos Boozer, Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Michael Redd and Deron Williams.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Evermore wrote:i hope they do get whupped. might deflate the egos some...
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
vonkaar wrote:this exact Team USA squad almost got owned by an Australian team that contains ONE NBA player - Andrew Bogut .
recks wrote:Not to derail the topic, but in 2004 I would argue that a prime Ben Wallace, Sheed', Billups, Rip and Prince's defensive presence >>>>> than shaq/kobe. Payton and Malone were shells of their former skins, and while Phil Jackson is the best coach of all time, Brown is pretty close to his level. Overall Detroit had more talent when you look at all the positions.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Zanchief wrote:vonkaar wrote:this exact Team USA squad almost got owned by an Australian team that contains ONE NBA player - Andrew Bogut .
Have we given up all this Andrew Bogut is the next Tim Duncan talk?
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
vonkaar wrote:
That's soooo easy to say in retrospect. At the time, people were predicting a Laker's sweep and some were calling it the most one-sided finals in the history of the shot-clock. Before the '04 finals, nobody really knew that much about the ridiculously effective 'big four' in Detroit, and Rasheed had only recently been traded to them (right near the deadline). Shaq was still in his prime... Kobe was blossoming and Malone was VERY effective in the last half of the season until he tweaked his knee (I think) against San Antonio in the playoffs. This was one of the most powerful teams of the decade and the only major changes were the ADDITION of two hall-of-famers. Derek Fisher & Deaven George were still there... Lose Rick Fox and gain Karl Malone? uh yeah... Even Malone at 30% is a MASSIVE improvement. NOBODY gave the Pistons any chance in hell.
Now... the following seasons... of course everyone was afraid of Detroit. Flip Saunders comes in and they go off for 65 wins... Sheed/Billups/Wallace/Hamilton/Prince was the scariest starting 5 in the league. McDyess comes in and completely revitalizes his career with solid play... But that's not how it was before the finals. Nobody gave them a chance in hell.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
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