Why Socialism (obama'ism) fails

[Narrock]

It pisses me off knowing that a portion of my tax dollars are going to lazy able-bodied shitheads who are fraudulently receiving government assistance, and even using their ebt card at strip clubs and buying booze and cigarettes. Those are the facts, and millions of our tax dollars are going to these assholes every year. And these are the clowns that obummer helps. "No man left behind". Give me a fucking break.

[Drem]

I'm greedy? I work my ass off for long hours to provide for my family. I have a modest home, and drive a modest vehicle. I don't live an extravagant lifestyle, and I strive to be the best husband and father I can be. Now tell me how the fuck I am greedy.

That's how MOST Americans live. The idea that only Republicans work and everyone else wants a fucking hand out is a LIE. I work 3 jobs, pay my taxes and have NEVER asked for a fucking government handout. SHOCKER. There are MILLIONS of other left leaning people just like me.

[Tossica]

It pisses me off knowing that a portion of my tax dollars are going to lazy able-bodied shitheads who are fraudulently receiving government assistance, and even using their ebt card at strip clubs and buying booze and cigarettes. Those are the facts, and millions of our tax dollars are going to these assholes every year. And these are the clowns that obummer helps. "No man left behind". Give me a fucking break.

It pisses me off that BILLIONS of tax dollars go directly in the pocket of rich people.

The stereotype you are talking about is NOT the norm for people on government assistance. The percentage of abuse isn't nearly as high as the "media" would like you to think it is. Fleecing people, finding loopholes, fucking over everyone else in the pursuit of maximum profits IS however the norm for rich people and our lovely "corporate citizens".

[Narrock]

Obummer is just too radical for America, and a failprez to boot. Let's put Romney in office for 4 years, and get this economy rolling again, get people working again (and at higher wages at that), get the illegal immigrant problem under better control, overhaul our social welfare problem, and get some responsible leadership in the white house, and a tough leader with foreign affairs.

[Tossica]

Obummer is just too radical for America, and a failprez to boot. Let's put Romney in office for 4 years, and get this economy rolling again, get people working again (and at higher wages at that), get the illegal immigrant problem under better control, overhaul our social welfare problem, and get some responsible leadership in the white house, and a tough leader with foreign affairs.

If you think Romney intends to do any of that, you're seriously a fool. He knows how to gut a company, pay the employees as little as possible or just lay everyone off to maximize executive bonuses and payouts. He doesn't give a FUCK about creating jobs in the US.

[Tossica]

Obama is the furthest right any "Democratic" president has been in my lifetime. There's nothing radical about him. He finally did what politicians have been talking about for 30 years.

[Tossica]

The "job creators" have failed us and now want to blame the government for their greed. Corporate profits at an all time high, job rate bottoming out... hmmmm... what's wrong with this picture? Corporations gut the middle class, outsource all the jobs so no one has any money and then wonder why consumer demand for their shitty made in China products are down? Oh, it's the government's fault. Got it.

Pay your employees a living wage and watch how consumer demand goes up.

[leah]

I'm greedy? I work my ass off for long hours to provide for my family. I have a modest home, and drive a modest vehicle. I don't live an extravagant lifestyle, and I strive to be the best husband and father I can be. Now tell me how the fuck I am greedy.

That's how MOST Americans live. The idea that only Republicans work and everyone else wants a fucking hand out is a LIE. I work 3 jobs, pay my taxes and have NEVER asked for a fucking government handout. SHOCKER. There are MILLIONS of other left leaning people just like me.

[Narrock]

It pisses me off knowing that a portion of my tax dollars are going to lazy able-bodied shitheads who are fraudulently receiving government assistance, and even using their ebt card at strip clubs and buying booze and cigarettes. Those are the facts, and millions of our tax dollars are going to these assholes every year. And these are the clowns that obummer helps. "No man left behind". Give me a fucking break.

It pisses me off that BILLIONS of tax dollars go directly in the pocket of rich people.

The stereotype you are talking about is NOT the norm for people on government assistance. The percentage of abuse isn't nearly as high as the "media" would like you to think it is. Fleecing people, finding loopholes, fucking over everyone else in the pursuit of maximum profits IS however the norm for rich people and our lovely "corporate citizens".

How about the billions (92 billion to be exact) that obummer wasted on bullshit corporations? And obummer's friend Geoffrey Imelt who helped write the corporate tax code so GE doesnt have to pay any taxes. Oh, and Romey is NOT a wall street big bank cronie.

[Narrock]

Obama is the furthest right any "Democratic" president has been in my lifetime. There's nothing radical about him. He finally did what politicians have been talking about for 30 years.

WTF are you smoking? Fucking slick willie was a conservative compared to barawkward. Holy shit, I seriously cant believe you said that.

[Tossica]

Obama is the furthest right any "Democratic" president has been in my lifetime. There's nothing radical about him. He finally did what politicians have been talking about for 30 years.

WTF are you smoking? Fucking slick willie was a conservative compared to barawkward. Holy shit, I seriously cant believe you said that.

HOW? His health care plan that everyone is so bent over is a fucking REPUBLICAN plan. He did what he had to do to stop the economic freefall that 8 years of Republican policy had caused. Nothing he's done has been "radical left" except repealing the ridiculous DADT policy.

All the shit you're so upset over JUST ISN'T FUCKING TRUE. Turn off the god damn TV. Fuck. He's not a socialist, communist, Muslim, etc. He is a corporate pawn but things COULD be worse, like another 4yrs of PROVEN FAILED Republican policy.

[Narrock]

And my main point to Tikker was questioning his accusation that I'm a greedy fuck. I guess we're all in agreement that he's full of shit?

[Narrock]

Obama is the furthest right any "Democratic" president has been in my lifetime. There's nothing radical about him. He finally did what politicians have been talking about for 30 years.

WTF are you smoking? Fucking slick willie was a conservative compared to barawkward. Holy shit, I seriously cant believe you said that.

HOW? His health care plan that everyone is so bent over is a fucking REPUBLICAN plan. He did what he had to do to stop the economic freefall that 8 years of Republican policy had caused. Nothing he's done has been "radical left" except repealing the ridiculous DADT policy.

All the shit you're so upset over JUST ISN'T FUCKING TRUE. Turn off the god damn TV. Fuck. He's not a socialist, communist, Muslim, etc. He is a corporate pawn but things COULD be worse, like another 4yrs of PROVEN FAILED Republican policy.

Who do you think is gonna pay for obummercare? We are. The middle class. Unless they print more money and further devalue the dollar, WE have to pay for it. My health insurance premiums are going to go up, and unless obummercare gets overhauled, many doctors are going to retire early... and when that happens, have fun trying to get a doctor's appointment any time soon. And the death panels are downright scary. Imagine a panel who get to play God and decide who gets treatment, or who just gets pills to keep you comfortable until you die. Yes, this will apply to all seniors 76 and over. Now which party is the one that cares about our seniors? Paul Ryan is gonna SAVE medicare, and keep the cost the same. The obummer administration will raise the cost to the patient.

[Arlos]

Neither one of the things you just said is true.

1) There are no such things as "Death Panels". They are a complete myth, they simply do not exist. Period.

2) Ryan's plan gives a flat voucher for health care, regardless of what the cost of insurance does. Cost goes up? Tough, cover it yourself.


Sorry, no.

-Arlos

[Narrock]

What it comes down to is simply this: If you want a robust economy again, a booming housing market again, job growth coupled with a higher income again, no income tax hike, better control of illegal immigration, lower fuel prices, reduced deficits and reduced government waste, stronger leadership with foreign affairs, a continued safety net for the poor (but with fraud reduction), a stronger military, and space exploration funding again... then vote for Romney/Ryan. If you want to continue on our economic downward spiral, shitty job growth, even more wealth redistribution, then vote for obummer.

[Narrock]

Neither one of the things you just said is true.

1) There are no such things as "Death Panels". They are a complete myth, they simply do not exist. Period.

2) Ryan's plan gives a flat voucher for health care, regardless of what the cost of insurance does. Cost goes up? Tough, cover it yourself.


Sorry, no.

-Arlos

The death panels are absolutely true. The left is denying it, but obummer said it himself that "we're gonna give you a pill to keep you comfortable." And independent analysts have said that Ryan's proposal will save Medicare, sorry to burst your bubble Arlos.

[brinstar]

What it comes down to is simply this: If you want a robust economy again, a booming housing market again, job growth coupled with a higher income again, no income tax hike, better control of illegal immigration, lower fuel prices, reduced deficits and reduced government waste, stronger leadership with foreign affairs, a continued safety net for the poor (but with fraud reduction), a stronger military, and space exploration funding again... then vote for Romney/Ryan. If you want to continue on our economic downward spiral, shitty job growth, even more wealth redistribution, then vote for obummer.

but fox news said the president couldn't affect fuel prices!

(in 2008)

[Tossica]

Gas has dropped .50 a gallon here in the last few weeks. Must be Obama milkin' that gubment oil teet!

[Spazz]

It pisses me off knowing that a portion of my tax dollars are going to lazy able-bodied shitheads who are fraudulently receiving government assistance, and even using their ebt card at strip clubs and buying booze and cigarettes. Those are the facts, and millions of our tax dollars are going to these assholes every year. And these are the clowns that obummer helps. "No man left behind". Give me a fucking break

I missed that. I told you guys he was gonna say some shit along those lines.



Have some jams and quit being a dickhead

[Maeya]

I've never felt that any one president wildly changes the course of the country. The whole election just reminds me of the senior class president elections. "Elect me and I'll put a soda machine in every hallway! And I'll fight so we get tater tots with every lunch!" None of the promised shit ever happens. Who cares what they claim they'll do? The chance of the Senate or House actually passing any of that shit without tacking on a million money-wasting addendums and throw backs is laughable. I honestly don't feel like we'll get any measure of solid improvement until term limits are put in place on Senators and Representatives. If they weren't in a life-long campaign to keep their cushy job, who knows what good they might actually do?

[Harrison]

Or, until we burn it to the ground and start over, because rich people aren't going to give up any of their power.

Ever.

[brinstar]

I've never felt that any one president wildly changes the course of the country. The whole election just reminds me of the senior class president elections. "Elect me and I'll put a soda machine in every hallway! And I'll fight so we get tater tots with every lunch!" None of the promised shit ever happens. Who cares what they claim they'll do? The chance of the Senate or House actually passing any of that shit without tacking on a million money-wasting addendums and throw backs is laughable. I honestly don't feel like we'll get any measure of solid improvement until term limits are put in place on Senators and Representatives. If they weren't in a life-long campaign to keep their cushy job, who knows what good they might actually do?

normally i'd agree with you about presidents, but with this election comes the looming promise of two liberal SCOTUS retirements. with Romneybot 5000 in office, his appointments would give conservatives a 7-2 majority for the foreseeable future. no thanks

totally agree about congressional term limits though

[Narrock]

Um... How about Kagan and Sotomayor? So it's ok to appoint two left wing extremists? Sorry, but THAT was a bad move for America, and now we're stuck with them for many years. That is a tragedy.

[ClakarEQ]

Left wing extremists, dude, you're seriously off your rocker.

[Narrock]

Tossica, why do you have so much hatred for, and are so envious of, the rich? It's not like they are all part of a family dynasty, or got rich by screwing people over (with very few exceptions.) Most rich people aquired their wealth through hard work, dedication, perseverence, and using their noggin.
And rich people DO pay their fair share of taxes. In fact, the upper class pays the most income tax out of anybody in America. And you want to punish them for being successful? That doesn't make sense, Holmes. They are also the primary job creators in the nation. If you make them pay even more taxes, you are actually FORCING them to become less profitable and less solvent, and the direct end result of that is less hiring, fewer raises, fewer promotions etc, and the end result of THAT is a strained economy... people spending less. Leave rich people alone FFS. It's Economics 101 and common sense, bro.