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Drem wrote:Another awesome side-effect: businesses like applebees and tgif and walmart that fuck employees over and are only concerned with their profit margin are probably going to go out of business or severely scale back their operations and indirectly strengthen private businesses. Love it
Sorry, mindia, please continue with your regularly scheduled flood of misinformed, attention-seeking posts
Narrock wrote:Since most of you don't even understand what obummercare REALLY does, I'll be more than happy to break it down for you: Fact: As of Jan. 1st 2014, all businesses with 50 or more employees, will have to participate in obummercare and buy the obummercare packages to offer their employees, REGARDLESS of if they already offer private sector health insurance like Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Kaiser, Cigna, etc. or pay the penalty. That breaks down to a cost to the business of $1.79 per hour per employee. The impact: Massive layoffs, and shifting workers from full-time, to part-time status. Good job you obummer supporters. /clap
Gaazy wrote:Im not taking one side or another -I REPEAT, no flames instended. I ask you a question - What will the differences be for my business in the next few years? I know I know, its time to research all this.
Have any of you ever been in charge of insuring your employees and seen the numbers? I dont think the average person really understands what it costs. Its near broken us doing it in the past.
Reynaldo wrote:2) I don't want to pay more into my insurance than people on OBC (Obamacare), then not be able to get an appointment with my doctor when I need one for a month because OBC subscribers have jammed up the office.
Arlos wrote:How many employees does your business have, Gaazy? If it's below a certain threshold, you're exempt from a lot of the provisions of needing to carry coverage.
Honestly, though, this isn't going to be REALLY fixed until we have single-payer universal health care like the rest of the western world. That way businesses will no longer need to either carry coverage or pay for administering it. Also, people won't have to worry about paying COBRA between jobs (which no one can really do anyway), and we can keep costs down by getting people preventative care, instead of people with no insurance not taking care of problems until they end up in the emergency room.
-Arlos
Gaazy wrote:We have 10. Used to be a bit bigger but not with recent cutbacks.
COBRA is expensive as a motherfucker too. Have helped a lot of guys we had to lay off with it and godamn its up there. Fucking unreal
Drem wrote:Because those businesses are shit and people should spend their money locally, ya "dufus"
Not to mention your statement is incorrect in general as you obviously haven't read the PPACA bill at all
Drem wrote:Of course a redneck trucker would support a bunch of white trash businesses.
As far as the bill's concerned, you're just wrong. Period
brinstar wrote:lol
obama is not what's killing the coal industry
natural gas is what's killing the coal industry
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