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Harrison wrote:Should they not defend themselves because dirty rat towelheads put weapons in close proximity to children? That's insanity.
Harrison wrote:And if the U.S. was to retaliate they'd be assholes, because Mexico is poor and downtrodden and blah fucking blah.
Zanchief wrote:Harrison wrote:Should they not defend themselves because dirty rat towelheads put weapons in close proximity to children? That's insanity.
I think they should be responsible in their defense. I think if they have a blatant disregard for innocent life, they are at fault. When we are dealing with the death of children I don't really care who's more or less justified in their death. It doesn't seem like Israel currently cares about the life of an innocent Muslim child at all, and they are the ones who should have the moral high ground.
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Tikker wrote:the real solution is to just wipe out every muslim and jew from the known universe
it would definitely stop the hostility between the 2
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Harrison wrote:I pretty much back everything Israel does because dirty slum-rats bombing children intentionally don't deserve shit but a bullet to the face.
It's unfortunate hipsters across the country living safe in suburbia never having to fear anything of the sort look down on "the big bad man" stomping out shit shoveling towelheads, because they're poor. (ignoring the fact they're murdering pieces of shit who target children and civilian populations on purpose)
If poor people north or south of our borders started lobbing missiles into your city, not at military targets but at your malls, libraries, cafes, etc., you wouldn't be saying shit if we curbstomped them regardless of where they hid their missile sites. It's easy to act high and mighty as you sit safe in your bubble.
Fuck "Palestine" right into extinction.
Janet Lee Stevens, an American journalist, later wrote to her husband, Dr. Franklin Lamb, "I saw dead women in their houses with their skirts up to their waists and their legs spread apart; dozens of young men shot after being lined up against an alley wall; children with their throats slit, a pregnant woman with her stomach chopped open, her eyes still wide open, her blackened face silently screaming in horror; countless babies and toddlers who had been stabbed or ripped apart and who had been thrown into garbage piles."
Arlos wrote:Uh, Harrison, the West Bank, which is where this is happening, hasn't been bombing anyone for quite some time. So, you're raging against something that isn't, you know, happening.
-Arlos
article wrote:On November 21, another soldier, Boris Yarmilnik (28),[313] was killed and a bus was bombed in Tel Aviv. The bus bombing, which injured 28 Israeli civilians, was condemned by the UN, the United States, and several European countries,[314] and was praised by Hamas and celebrated in the Gaza Strip.
Over 1,456 rockets were fired at Israel between November 14 and 21.
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Arlos wrote:Both sides have done horrible things to each other.
Harrison, if you need an example of the Israelis being responsible for horrible civilian slaughter, just look up the Sabra and Shatila massacre, which the previous PM of Israel, Ariel Sharon was judged (in a court of law) to bear personal responsibility for. If I may quote from a journalist who was able to sneak into the scene:Janet Lee Stevens, an American journalist, later wrote to her husband, Dr. Franklin Lamb, "I saw dead women in their houses with their skirts up to their waists and their legs spread apart; dozens of young men shot after being lined up against an alley wall; children with their throats slit, a pregnant woman with her stomach chopped open, her eyes still wide open, her blackened face silently screaming in horror; countless babies and toddlers who had been stabbed or ripped apart and who had been thrown into garbage piles."
Enough innocent child-killing for you?
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Ganzo wrote:Just so we are clear, since it is not in your post: Israelis did not do this - Lebanese Christian militia fighters did this, while Israeli Defense Forces and Ariel Sharon were found indirectly responsible for not stopping this. IDF never entered Sabra and Shatila camps, but were in control of the area and aware of the fighting inside the camps. Not trying to justify anything, and I'm fully in agreement that IDF should have prevented/stopped this from happening; but I don't want you to present this as something that Israelis did.
Arlos wrote:You are absolutely right that it wasn't the Israelis directly that went in there and did the actual killing. But the IDF knew what those militias were like, and knew what they intended if they ever got the chance. The IDF also put the camps on lockdown, let the militias in, and then continually fired flares to light the area, so the militias could see what they were doing as they went slaughtering through the camps. Nor, as you said, did the IDF make any move to stop what was going on. So, still, pretty direct responsibility, I think, even if they didn't do the actual slayings. Anyway, my point wasn't to be attacking Israel for this, it was to make the point that BOTH sides have plenty of reason to hate the other, because of atrocities that both sides have been responsible for.
Ganzo wrote:Not trying to justify anything, and I'm fully in agreement that IDF should have prevented/stopped this from happening
Arlos wrote:As for E1, I'll look at your article later, I have a final in a few hours, so I don't have time this minute. Even SHOULD it be legal under international law, however, don't you see at all how this just inflames the issues there to do such an action at *THIS* point? Especially given all that has transpired within the last couple weeks? Is delivering such a huge insult to the US (who begged Israel not to make such an announcement at this time), and to the Palestinians RIGHT after the events in Gaza at all smart? Combine that with Israel's refusal to hand over the millions in tax revenue they owe to Abbas' government, and it just looks like petulant retaliation for the vote in the UN. Also, it HAS alienated your allies, and HAS lessened the chances for peace. It was a stupid, stupid move, regardless of the claimed legality.
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Adivina wrote:We are the most bipolar acting community, bunch of manics with the mood swings on here.
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