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leah wrote:i am forever grateful to my gym teacher for drilling that skill into me during drivers' ed
leah wrote:isn't the only difference the length? i feel like it would take too long to smoke something that long, ha.
leah wrote:i am forever grateful to my gym teacher for drilling that skill into me during drivers' ed
leah wrote:isn't the only difference the length? i feel like it would take too long to smoke something that long, ha.
Menelvir wrote:_________________
"The four points of the compass be logic, knowledge, wisdom and the unknown. To bow before the one is to lose sight of the three. The man who bows in that final direction is either a saint or a fool. I have no use for either." - R.Zelazny, 'Lord of Light'
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Drem wrote:Xbox probly. Sony are retards. All the security compromises and botched updates (including the most recent http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-Support/Problem-after-update-to-4-45/m-p/40712247#U40712247) make we not wanna deal w/ it. Had a OG 360 for years now and never had a single issue. And i dont borrow or rent games so that isnt an issue for me
Not to mention the thousands of bux ive probably put into xbla. Definitely want access to all those purchases
leah wrote:i am forever grateful to my gym teacher for drilling that skill into me during drivers' ed
leah wrote:isn't the only difference the length? i feel like it would take too long to smoke something that long, ha.
leah wrote:i am forever grateful to my gym teacher for drilling that skill into me during drivers' ed
leah wrote:isn't the only difference the length? i feel like it would take too long to smoke something that long, ha.
brinstar wrote:news broke just a bit ago that MS just reversed course on all the wack-ass DRM shit built into xbone
buy sell and trade game discs all you want, play offline forever, etc
still not gonna get one because lol xbox
but cong MS for waking up and hopping out of sony's jaws before they could clamp down and kill them off
leah wrote:i am forever grateful to my gym teacher for drilling that skill into me during drivers' ed
leah wrote:isn't the only difference the length? i feel like it would take too long to smoke something that long, ha.
Ganzo wrote:I'm probably just going to buy Ouya since I barely play and $100 is a good enough deal for my playtime. Maybe get PS3 once it drops to a 100 since I like some of the games on it.Menelvir wrote:_________________
"The four points of the compass be logic, knowledge, wisdom and the unknown. To bow before the one is to lose sight of the three. The man who bows in that final direction is either a saint or a fool. I have no use for either." - R.Zelazny, 'Lord of Light'
This is a line from my favorite Sci-Fi book of all times. Whenever I mention this book everyone always says they never heard of it, so nice to see there is a second person who've read it.
Lyion wrote:Ganzo wrote:I'm probably just going to buy Ouya since I barely play and $100 is a good enough deal for my playtime. Maybe get PS3 once it drops to a 100 since I like some of the games on it.
This is a line from my favorite Sci-Fi book of all times. Whenever I mention this book everyone always says they never heard of it, so nice to see there is a second person who've read it.
Most Sci Fi fans have read the Amber series. I just nabbed the audio books read by Roger for a recent trip as it had been almost 25 years since I originally read them. While good, they aren't close to my favs, and can't touch Heinlein's or Scott Cards work.
I will probably nab both consoles eventually. No rush for either, though.
Yea its that online thing that makes me madder than anything. Ive been broke and not payed the cable. I have travled and taken it places with me that had no online access. I dont need to be online I play alone and kill bandits in skyrim for 4 hours a day. Of all the recent video game nonsense nothing made me more pissed off than that.
Can someone who gets tech explain the reasoning for wanting to do something like that ?
Arlos wrote:Now, thread derail aside, to answer your question, Spazz...Yea its that online thing that makes me madder than anything. Ive been broke and not payed the cable. I have travled and taken it places with me that had no online access. I dont need to be online I play alone and kill bandits in skyrim for 4 hours a day. Of all the recent video game nonsense nothing made me more pissed off than that.
Can someone who gets tech explain the reasoning for wanting to do something like that ?
Microsoft wanted to have the online requirement specifically for DRM on games. They wanted to have games so locked in to their original purchaser that no one else could play them, and you had to connect daily to the MS server with your XBox to renew your license, I suppose to prevent you playing a game that is DRM-linked to someone else. Basically, in short, they wanted to kill the entire used game market. Makes sense for them, because they make zero money on that market, and anyone who buys a game used and plays it is someone who isn't shelling out their money to the original publisher for the game. Sucks for players, as you would then not be able to ever borrow a game from a friend and play it or buy a used copy. You want to play it, you shell out your 60 bucks.
leah wrote:i am forever grateful to my gym teacher for drilling that skill into me during drivers' ed
leah wrote:isn't the only difference the length? i feel like it would take too long to smoke something that long, ha.
Lyion wrote:Ganzo wrote:I'm probably just going to buy Ouya since I barely play and $100 is a good enough deal for my playtime. Maybe get PS3 once it drops to a 100 since I like some of the games on it.Menelvir wrote:_________________
"The four points of the compass be logic, knowledge, wisdom and the unknown. To bow before the one is to lose sight of the three. The man who bows in that final direction is either a saint or a fool. I have no use for either." - R.Zelazny, 'Lord of Light'
This is a line from my favorite Sci-Fi book of all times. Whenever I mention this book everyone always says they never heard of it, so nice to see there is a second person who've read it.
Most Sci Fi fans have read the Amber series. I just nabbed the audio books read by Roger for a recent trip as it had been almost 25 years since I originally read them. While good, they aren't close to my favs, and can't touch Heinlein's or Scott Cards work.
I will probably nab both consoles eventually. No rush for either, though.
Narrock wrote:Yup, I ... was just trolling.
Narrock wrote:I wikipedia'd everything first.
Arlos wrote:
I wasn't a big fan of the Amber series. Just not my thing.
Lyion: Which Heinlein are you talking about? Pre-Lazarus Long, or Post-Lazarus Long? Early Heinlein was often very good. Think Starship Troopers, etc. Late Heinlein was absolute crap. The Cat that Walks Through Walls was one of the most frustrating books I can remember reading. The first 2/3 were actually decent, it seemed. Hey, it's a decent mystery, I can get into this. Then, in the last 1/3, Lazarus long shows up, and things go off on a COMPLETE disconnected tangent from the first 2/3 of the book. It rambles on for quite some time with stuff utterly unrelated to anything but his self-ejaculating delight in Lazarus Fucking Long, then it FINALLY mentions the events of the first 2/3 of the book, ties it off in about 5 pages, still with over 50 pages to go!
So oh no, don't talk Heinlein to me unless you're talking EARLY Heinlein. Not a Card fan either. Yes, Ender's Game was good. It's sequels were much less so. Alvin the Maker series was absolute crap. 1 great book does not a great writer make. See: Herbert, Frank. Look at his milking of the Dune story for $$$ later in life, as it's an excellent parallel to Card. First story, amazing. Sequels, well, the first sequel was barely OK, they got progressively worse, ending up as stuff I wouldn't line a catbox with..
Jay wrote:Which in the long run is such a terrible idea. Game retailers make most of their money on used games. Give x trade in value and mark it up 10-25 dollars vs netting 5 dollars per new game they sell. The retailers, whom are the largest source of their product movement, would be fucked. Given they reversed their DRM policy it just blows my mind they could think to assfuck the consumer and the gaming retail industry like that for such a short sighted cash grab. I've never been a fan of Halo or Gears or any of the XBox exclusive titles so they've most likely lost my business.
Sony on the other hand I've always liked their exclusives but like Drem mentioned the infrastructure and security issues are a concern. I'm getting a PS4 and I haven't had any issues with credit card stuff on my PS3 purchases from the Sony Online store but still. I'm banking on the fact they sorted that stuff out.
Lyion wrote:Arlos wrote:
I wasn't a big fan of the Amber series. Just not my thing.
Lyion: Which Heinlein are you talking about? Pre-Lazarus Long, or Post-Lazarus Long? Early Heinlein was often very good. Think Starship Troopers, etc. Late Heinlein was absolute crap. The Cat that Walks Through Walls was one of the most frustrating books I can remember reading. The first 2/3 were actually decent, it seemed. Hey, it's a decent mystery, I can get into this. Then, in the last 1/3, Lazarus long shows up, and things go off on a COMPLETE disconnected tangent from the first 2/3 of the book. It rambles on for quite some time with stuff utterly unrelated to anything but his self-ejaculating delight in Lazarus Fucking Long, then it FINALLY mentions the events of the first 2/3 of the book, ties it off in about 5 pages, still with over 50 pages to go!
So oh no, don't talk Heinlein to me unless you're talking EARLY Heinlein. Not a Card fan either. Yes, Ender's Game was good. It's sequels were much less so. Alvin the Maker series was absolute crap. 1 great book does not a great writer make. See: Herbert, Frank. Look at his milking of the Dune story for $$$ later in life, as it's an excellent parallel to Card. First story, amazing. Sequels, well, the first sequel was barely OK, they got progressively worse, ending up as stuff I wouldn't line a catbox with..
I'm pretty much a fan of all of Heinlein's work. His banter between characters is something sorely missing in most novels today. That's also a pretty strong point of the Amber series, even though it's more of a 'Noir' type detective banter. I enjoyed the first Amber series and it's a good read. The rest of Zelazny's work, not so much. I enjoyed the Cat that Walks through Walls, but it's definitely not one of his best works. It's like he wrote the first half and had a good plan, but his health was deteriorating then and I think it showed up.
I loved Herbert when I was younger, but for some reason I can't re-read it anymore. I loved the depth, but after reading it twice it doesn't hold the allure it used to. This isn't the case with Heinlen's work.
The entire Ender's series is amazing so we'll have to agree to disagree there. I think you just hate the guy personally so refuse to admit what an amazing writer he is, which is cool.
I've not read Weber's Honor Harrington series, so I'll check it out. I fucking love Altered Carbon, though, even if it's a bit of a mindfuck at times. Interestingly, Altered Carbon is very similar to Zelazny's works, so I'm surprised you like one but not the other.
Ganzo, I'm a fan of Zelazny. His stuff is better than 99% of what I've read. I just like his first series far better than his latter books. That quote is from the Amber series, if memory serves. I remember it as I just reread the books via audiobooks. I'll have to read Lord of Light again.. That's another one I read 25+ years ago. I barely even remember it..
/tangent off
So, is MS going the Steam route for DRM on the new Xbox? I'm a bit confused in regards to the mixed messages. It sounds like games are 'latched' to accounts?
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