A love note from Azlana...

[Tacks]

AVATARS: Avatars may not contain offensive or 'adult' material. Naked women... naked everquest characters... hate propaganda, etc. Don't do it. If we see someone that breaks this rule, we'll first ask to change it and later respond with bannings.

If the mods can't follow the rules, why should we be expected to?

[The Kizzy]

He needs to repost in AFA

[vonkaar]

That doesn't break the rules. You could have a woman in a bikini. No nudity = win.

[Tacks]

It's NSFW

[The Kizzy]

AVATARS: Avatars may not contain offensive or 'adult' material. Naked women... naked everquest characters... hate propaganda, etc. Don't do it. If we see someone that breaks this rule, we'll first ask to change it and later respond with bannings.

If the mods can't follow the rules, why should we be expected to?

I do not believe lesbianism is suitable material for children, thank you.

[Tacks]

My pic with anime chick on bike is gone, time for lesbian pic to go byebye!

[vonkaar]

Silvestra, you were asking why the relationship between us was strained. It's this bullshit that you and your e-husband are pulling that's causing it. Stop fucking finding things to complain about. If you two are so unhappy with NT then fucking leave.

Taxx kept wanting to hear that, so... there it is.

I'm really tired of hearing the off-the-wall complaints. You two are the crux of that problem. I don't value your company any more. You are complaining simply for the sake of complaining.

[The Kizzy]

Send me my $25 back and I will leave. I am just saying that its the truth. You just won't admit it because Taxx or I brought it up, so you think it has no validity.

Hes not my e husband, hes my live in boyfriend. I am not insulting anyone, I am stating FACT your rules say one thing, but some people (including me) were asked to change my lesbian avatar, but some were not. Im not attacking her or you, Im just asking that the rules be the same across the board. I also have the balls to state my opinion.

[vonkaar]

People sent me PMs asking for them to be changed.

You are old enough, mature enough to stop with the charade. You aren't offended by her avatar. She's had it for 4 months and nobody has complained. People DID complain about EVERY avatar that I've changed. PLEASE do not insult my intelligence with this ruse. You are complaining, Silvestra. Those complaints constitute 90% of your posts lately.

I've been on the defensive with you people for the past few weeks. I am sooo tired of it.

You are flat-out lying if you pull the 'offended' card on her avatar. Three weeks ago, I'd have said that lying was beneath you. Three weeks ago, if I asked, you would have had no problem with her avatar. What has changed? I haven't. I'm defending my position as I always have, I'm just being attacked more than normal. YOU have changed. YOU are finding little bullshit complaints to whine about AND YOU KNOW IT.

IF ANYONE had told me that her avatar offended them, I would have removed it. Your 'complaints' of late hold NO sway because that's ALL you've been doing. Please argue this point, I'd love to see you try.

You *have* changed Silvestra. I don't like this new person.

[The Kizzy]

There is nothing to argue, *I* do not find her avatar offensive, but I also used to have a lesbian avatar. I never said I was offended by it. I am simply stating what your rules say, and how it can be constrewed that her avatar is adult material, which is not allowed in your rules.

I am not complaining, Taxx is complaining, and we all know he will find whatever reason to complain, especially about her. Again I don't care. I am just stating proof that validates his claim, which gets under your skin, obviously. I am not personally attacking her or you.

[The Kizzy]

p.s. I do not lie, it is beneath me, and I have no reason to

[vonkaar]

Stop it.

Stop it, or leave. I'm tired of it.

Let Taxx play his typical role. If you want to call all of the bullshit you've been posting merely 'supporting Taxx' then so be it. You are merely supporting him. Let's just say then, that I'm not used to it from you. One Taxx is enough for the board. I liked the old Silvestra just fine. I don't need Taxx2.0.

I received a complaint for your avatar... within days of it appearing. This was more my fault than yours since it was an avatar that I uploaded into the gallery. I didn't think people would mind, but they did. Azlana has had hers up for months and I've seen no complaints. You two are acting like fucking children. "Billy ate cookies too! Why didn't he get in trouble?" I expect that from Taxx. He'd complain about the color of the sky if it was administered by NT.

Before you and he moved in together, these recent posts would have been unheard of. Stop dropping down to his level Silvestra. Fucking grow up.

[Langston]

Whether or not someone has complained doesn't mean it's not a violation of the rules, Vonkaar.

Frankly, I don't care what avatar she uses... but in the recent rounds of chest-thumping over the rules, it does look bad for a mod to violate them so flagrantly.

[The Kizzy]

Stop it.

Stop it, or leave. I'm tired of it. I already told you, when that $25 hits my account, I will leave.

Let Taxx play his typical role. If you want to call all of the bullshit you've been posting merely 'supporting Taxx' then so be it. You are merely supporting him. Let's just say then, that I'm not used to it from you. One Taxx is enough for the board. I liked the old Silvestra just fine. I don't need Taxx2.0.

I received a complaint for your avatar... within days of it appearing. This was more my fault than yours since it was an avatar that I uploaded into the gallery. I didn't think people would mind, but they did. Azlana has had hers up for months and I've seen no complaints. You two are acting like fucking children. "Billy ate cookies too! Why didn't he get in trouble?" I expect that from Taxx. He'd complain about the color of the sky if it was administered by NT. Actually, Stacy complained about my avatar, and I changed it out of respect for her. Oh and I agree about the Taxx complaining about everything, try cooking for him.

Before you and he moved in together, these recent posts would have been unheard of. Stop dropping down to his level Silvestra. Fucking grow up.

Why can't you just admit that I am right? You know I am. Her avatar does break the rules. Again I DO NOT CARE. But, it does.

[The Kizzy]

Whether or not someone has complained doesn't mean it's not a violation of the rules, Vonkaar.

Frankly, I don't care what avatar she uses... but in the recent rounds of chest-thumping over the rules, it does look bad for a mod to violate them so flagrantly.

See, look someone else agrees with me, and its not Taxx.

[vonkaar]

The women aren't naked.
It isn't adult material. I shouldn't have to fucking define this, but that usually refers to pornography.

By Silvestra's definition, 75% of the avatars on the board would have to go.

Motorcycles aren't for children
Dead cats aren't for children

At what level do I draw the line? I shouldn't have to. So, I leave it to popular consensus. If I get a complaint, and I can reasonably understand the basis OF the complaint (if someone was offended by Silvestra's Shrek avatar, fuck off), I'll change it. Popular consensus = complaints. If someone makes 300 posts with an avatar and I get no complaints, it's golden. If someone makes 20 posts before I get a complaint... I'll look into it.

There isn't any chest-thumping. We are simply trying to make NT a better place to play... maybe even a friendlier place to play. The new 'play-nice' rule is SOOOO common among message-boards, it's surprising that it took us this long to adopt it. Taxx has broken the two FIRST rules of NT (4+ years old) in probably 95% of his posts.

I don't need to get sooo specific with the rules to cover ANY and ALL possible infractions. I have to keep it generic and use my best judgement for the gray areas. I can see why people would have complained about Silvestra's avatar, so I removed it. She and I were 'friends' at that time and SHE DIDN'T complain to me over it's removal. She's only complaining about it NOW because she's a different person than back then.

[Tacks]

Honestly I don't care what the rules are, either you're going to ban me or you're not. Being selectively moderated is what bothers me. Either they're all bad or none of them is bad. Does Azlana's avatar bother me? Not in the least. Is it a violation of YOUR rules? Yes.

[Martrae]

Actually, her avatar has always bothered me...I just prefer not to complain about shit like that.

[Lyion]

Whether or not someone has complained doesn't mean it's not a violation of the rules, Vonkaar.

Frankly, I don't care what avatar she uses... but in the recent rounds of chest-thumping over the rules, it does look bad for a mod to violate them so flagrantly.

SILVESTRA, you are right There ya go. Stop fucking nitpicking and get back to chilling.

Can you lose the chip on your shoulder now?

Generally, the policy is to let things be cool, unless they are over the top.

The rules have been LIGHTLY enforced. This is not a heavily modded Forum.

Does Azlana's Avatar go a bit over the top? Of course. Did anyone ever complain about it? No, which is why she didnt change it. If it did bother anyone then I'm sure she would've.

[The Kizzy]

READING COMPREHENSION VONKAAR I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT HER AVATAR, I AM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE RULES WHICH ARE ONLY ENFORCED ON SOME

[Lyion]

I'm locking this thread.

[vonkaar]

Tell me then, why I enforced it on you back when we were 'friends'. It isn't like I enforced it on you 3 days ago. Tell me why you didn't complain about her avatar 2 months ago? Tell me why it was okay to 'selectively moderate' you back then, but now it's a point of debate.

You've changed Silvestra. Things that never bothered you, now do.