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Postby 10sun » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:41 am

refuse to boot up when I put an ATI 9600 All In Wonder video card in the AGP slot?

It is a Shuttle sk43g.

I mean when I put the vid card in, the system flat out refuses to power up. The minute I remove it, it will boot up just fine.

Any ideas?
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Postby Tacks » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:43 am

power supply?
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Postby 10sun » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:47 am

200w PSU, but it is only running an underclocked Semperon 2400, 1x 7200rpm HD, 1gb corsair DDR ram.

I would think that would be more than enough power for that setup.

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Postby Tacks » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:50 am

Hmm I dunno, I thought those all-in-wonders were power hogs. Those are the ones with the cable connector yes? Nothing else makes sense other than lack of power.
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Postby Lueyen » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:50 am

200w is a very light power supply. Are you getting any bios beep codes, or is it just not powering on at all? Also can you try it in a different machine? What type of vid card is in it before the ATI?
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Postby Harrison » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:58 am

200w PS?

I didn't think those still existed in the wild.
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Postby Lueyen » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:13 am

As I recall, the recomendations for the first 1Ghz processors were for a minimum power supply of 300w. This of course depends on how many devices you wish to plug in, but the 300w recomendation was for a "standard" machine.
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Re: Why would a computer:

Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:37 am

10sun wrote:refuse to boot up when I put an ATI 9600 All In Wonder video card in the AGP slot?

It is a Shuttle sk43g.

I mean when I put the vid card in, the system flat out refuses to power up. The minute I remove it, it will boot up just fine.

Any ideas?


some older AGP cards are 3.3v

most mobo now look for 1.5v AGP cards

If you have an older AGP card, the system may not boot up


I only know this cause I was looking at my mobo manual last night, and saw that(ps, i may have the 3.3v and the 1.5v reveresed, but you get the idea. non-matching voltages is likely the cause)
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Postby 10sun » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:31 am

The video card is supported per the manufacturer. It is the onboard video causing issues I believe.

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Postby Lueyen » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:33 am

Is there an option in bios to disable it if another adapter is present?
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Postby 10sun » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:03 pm

nope. nor is there a jumper that is easily discernable as the one to disable onboard video.

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Postby Tossica » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:09 pm

There should be a setting in the bios that tells it which video card is the primary display. When you say it doesn't boot, does the power supply even fire up or does nothing happen?
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Postby 10sun » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:34 pm

Tested with another agp video card, booted up fine with an old GeForce 2ti.

Nothing at all happens with the ATI card.

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Postby Tossica » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:46 pm

AGP voltage or power supply issue then.
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Postby Martrae » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:21 pm

Does the card work in a different machine? Might just be a dead card.
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Postby 10sun » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:23 pm

The pc wouldn't simply refuse to even power up if it were a dead card I don't think.

I'm testing that out later this evening in any case at my friend's house... he still runs an AGP card in his main box.

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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:19 pm

i'm still going to assume I"m right!
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Postby 10sun » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:52 am

video card is dead. fuck Newegg. That is the second dead on arrival item that was in that shipment.
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