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win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:46 pm
by Tikker
I'm upgrading my fileserver

initial setup

winXP
5 hdd
2x 500gb IDE drive
1x 300GB IDE drive (os on here)
2x 500gb sata drive

old p4 mobo, pc133 ram, etc etc

new box

win7 (64 bit)
5 hdd
2x 500 gb IDE drive
1x 2TB sata drive
2x 500gb sata drive (os on one of these)

now the issue i'm having is that whenever the IDE drives are plugged in, it complains that it can't find a bootable device

unplug them, and it boots just fine

I'm not sure what the issue is, or even really what to look at

neither of the ide drives has ever had an OS on it, so it's not like there's an extra MBR floating around

bios clearly shows my OS drive as first bootable device

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:39 am
by brinstar
yyyyeeeeah i'd offer to help but my box won't boot if the win7 disc isn't in the drive lol

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:35 am
by Durothil Skyreaver
I'd blame it on gremlins.

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:58 pm
by Drem
brinstar wrote:yyyyeeeeah i'd offer to help but my box won't boot if the win7 disc isn't in the drive lol


you can't enter your bios and tell it to not boot from the CDROM?

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:35 pm
by brinstar
Drem wrote:you can't enter your bios and tell it to not boot from the CDROM?


that was the very first thing i tried

it refuses to boot, giving me a black screen with the words DISK BOOT FAILURE or something

as long as i boot with the win7 disc in the drive, everything is 100% peachy

:dunno:

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:32 pm
by Tikker
ok so I solved my issue but found another



for my issue, the problem was in bios

there's 2 spots to specify boot order

in the 1, i specify DVD rom, then SPECIFIC HDD, then removable media

in the 2nd hidden spot, there's a HDD boot order list (1-5 in my case)

so even tho in #1 I specified my specific boot drive, I also had to specify the boot order of HDD in the other list

stupid stupid stupid


now the new thing I'm banging my head against is that it doesn't seem easy to map a network drive from a win7 box, unless you're on another win7 box

fucking retarded


ie, i've got a couple win7 boxes, and a couple XP machine and a vista laptop


the win7 box see's the win7 server np, maps drives like normal

the XP boxes don't even see the win7 shared drives

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:05 pm
by Drem
yeah even when vista was around it was horrible to network. i'd be able to see vista computers on the network thru xp but they couldn't see me no matter what. made 0 sense. so tired of windows

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:09 pm
by Tikker
The problem it turns out was related to avg of all things.

For some odd reason it just fucks with the win7 to xp handshake

no one seems able to explain it


I think I have most of my issues sorted out now so hopefully I can start turning off old machines this week. Be nice to go from 4 boxes down to 1 for my server type needs

Re: win7, weird issue with IDE drives

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:11 pm
by Drem
nice work