roflz... darko...

[Malluas]

he is/was.. petrie didn't like Darko hehe. So i take his word over anyone elses for Foreign Talent, well maybe Don "Boris Yeltsin" Nelson.

He was better than Peja was when we drafted Peja.

petrie also said pretty much none of the high school players are worth a damn this year when he was at the McDonald's AA game. BUt i think he means none are worth a damn in the kings offense hehe.

[xaoshaen]

X.. there is if he can't get shit right in practice.

There is what?

Thats why the kings got rid of Wallace.. they were gonna give him one more year but the decided after 3 years if he can't pick up the kings offense he will never do it.

But the word from the people that see Darko practice on a daily basis is that he's going to be incredible. That he has an almost unprecedented skill set for a young seven footer. That he has the athleticism and attitude to complement his skills. The fact that Dumars has refused to even consider trading him should speak more to his future than the garbage time minutes he's gleaned.

They picked him on a Diamond in the Rough mentality.. if i remember the NBA draft coverage on TV. 7 footer with post up skills and a soft touch.

The thing about diamonds in the rough is that they're, well, rough. It takes time to polish them. Remember, we're talking about a nineteen year old kid here. He's been in the league for a whopping total of two years...

Jermaine was also behind Wallace, Dale Davis, Sabonis and another guy i can't remember his name. And he was on the Jailblazer team.

As opposed to playing on the world champions, behind Wallace, Wallace, and McDyess? And, again, playing for Larry Brown.

But i do agree Larry is worthless with young talent. Did he even play James and Wade in any game? Carmelo also?

in a year i think his contract is up.. i doubt anyone signs him except maybe a team that loses its centers

If Brown wants to coach again after his contract expires, and he has indicated that he does not, someone will sign him. It'll even be a good signing as long as he inherits a veteran laden squad.

[Malluas]

he wasn't behind Dyss or Wallace for most of last year.

that first part is an answer to the first part in your post.

you can have unbelieveable skill.. If you can't pick up the offense it means nothing. Granted the Pistons offense it the worst thing for Darko, he must be doing something wrong. Look at Tayshaun. My advice is for them to trade him for like a 2nd rounder.. to a team that will use him. Then we shall see.

sorry was talkin about Darko's contract.

the way the league is going now.. not sure i want Larry as my coach.. i think in 3 years the league MIGHT be back to the early 90s with 120-117 scores as the norm

[Zanchief]

But the word from the people that see Darko practice on a daily basis is that he's going to be incredible. That he has an almost unprecedented skill set for a young seven footer. That he has the athleticism and attitude to complement his skills. The fact that Dumars has refused to even consider trading him should speak more to his future than the garbage time minutes he's gleaned.

And by "people who see Darko practice" you you mean the Pistons PR team?

Tell you what, you take future All-Star, I'll take a career that will rival Michael Stewart and Mamadou N'diaye.

We'll see who's right in 5 years.

Or will it take 10 for a diamond like Darko?

[Malluas]

lol at least Yogi (Stewart played alot when he was with the Kings. not sure N'Diaye has played as much and darko of course hasn't

[xaoshaen]

Lebron is barely 20
Melo is 20
Bosh turned 21 last week

What were there numbers when they were 19?

James is a freak. An almost unprecedented talent at his age. Using him as a comparison is blatantly unfair.

Bosh put up mediocre numbers on a bad team (11 points, 7.4 boards in 33 minutes, while shooting .460 from the field). If he played for the Pistons instead of the Raptors, he'd have been relegated to the bench.

Anthony likewise would have seen minimal minutes, thanks to the gaping holes in his defense.

Al Jefferson has drawn rave reviews in Boston, while putting up numbers that would land him on the end of the Detroit bench.

Even Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett had rough introductions to the league, and these, like the players you mentioned, played on bad teams, given a chance to play on a nightly basis.

The League just isn't kind to young players trying to get an early jump on their careers.

You can tell alot from a player during garbage time, and Larry Brown is the one who sees him in practice everyday.

No, you can tell very little about a player in garbage time. It's a chaotic mess where players try to break the shots/min record, go for the implausible block or steal, and generally attempt to generate their own highlight reel.

I'll trust his assessment...BUST!

Where did Brown say that Darko was a bust? The worst thing I've heard any memebr of the Pistons say was that he "wasn't ready yet".

Heres some links for you.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/ ... box22.html

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/ ... box31.html

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/ ... box44.html

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/ ... box58.html

Where oh where is King Darko on a national team that lost to world basketball power house CHINA.

He was at home watching, maybe playing his PS were he alwas wins at basketball.

Ahhh, the international basketball measurement. How's that Nocioni deal working out? After all, he was a key member of the international champion Argentinian team. Knowing a little about international basketball, I wouldn't have expected Milicic to have shown up on Serbia-Montenegro's team. International ball is far more veteran-dominated than the NBA, a kid like Darko, with essentially one year of competitive basketball under his belt would be a long shot to make a system-driven team, regardless of his talent.

[xaoshaen]

he wasn't behind Dyss or Wallace for most of last year.

No, he was buried behind Wallace, Wallace, Okur, and Campbell last year.

that first part is an answer to the first part in your post.

you can have unbelieveable skill.. If you can't pick up the offense it means nothing. Granted the Pistons offense it the worst thing for Darko, he must be doing something wrong. Look at Tayshaun. My advice is for them to trade him for like a 2nd rounder.. to a team that will use him. Then we shall see.

I assume you have evidence that Darko can't pick up the Pistons offense? The Pistons are adamant about not trading him, and they're the ones who see him in practice. Dumars' faith in him counts for more than a bunch of fans who have no way to make an informed decision: we simply haven't been given a chance to gather any real data on him.

[xaoshaen]

And by "people who see Darko practice" you you mean the Pistons PR team?

Great, so now the people who actually get a chance to see Darko practice are dismissed as a PR team? People like Joe Dumars who have the power to get rid of him whenever they want, but have strangely decided to hang on to him? As opposed to... ? Perhaps the internet pundits with no real vantage point or inside information who are calling for Darko's head?

Tell you what, you take future All-Star, I'll take a career that will rival Michael Stewart and Mamadou N'diaye.

We'll see who's right in 5 years.

Or will it take 10 for a diamond like Darko?

Show me one time, one single, solitary fucking time where I said Darko would be an All-Star. Show me one time where I described him as a diamond. Go ahead. I'll be here when you get back.

[Malluas]

well international tournaments.. aka Wold Championships and Olympics are more vetern oriented. But leagues aren't. Peja was the man at 19 in his league. As was Bodiroga. Darius Songilia was young and on the Lithuanian team. Dirk was a man in Germany. The best players are young.. the majority are veterans .. aka the NBA, which is starting to change in the NBA but still.. young guys need teh veterans to learn.

And your right the league isn't kind to teenagers. But that brings up the Draftee age thing, which is a completely different discussion.

[Zanchief]

*Checks his watch*

4 years 11 months 29 days 22hours to go.

We shall see...

[xaoshaen]

*Checks his watch*

4 years 11 months 29 days 22hours to go.

We shall see...

Which would be my point exactly.

[Zanchief]

Had a good night tonight, didn't watch the game but the boxscore was surprising.