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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:26 pm

I don't think anyone actually thinks the NBA is full of gangsters


just a bunch of unprofessional slobs1!
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Postby Susvain » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:28 pm

Zanchief wrote:
Susvain wrote:Allen Iverson is not a thug


Dude threw his naked wife out to the curb, then went to find her at her brothers house with a gun.

People have done worse, but that aint smart.


Allen Iverson is no longer a thug.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:35 pm

Susvain wrote:
Zanchief wrote:
Susvain wrote:Allen Iverson is not a thug


Dude threw his naked wife out to the curb, then went to find her at her brothers house with a gun.

People have done worse, but that aint smart.


Allen Iverson is no longer a thug.


Well if he's born again he might have a chance at the presidency.
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Postby Donnel » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:48 pm

The point is, Iverson is calling what the NBA did racist.

Racist? Racist would be the NBA saying, black people can't wear bling, but white people can.

Not allowing anyone to wear it is not racism, it's professionalism.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:49 pm

Donnel wrote:The point is, Iverson is calling what the NBA did racist.

Racist? Racist would be the NBA saying, black people can't wear bling, but white people can.

Not allowing anyone to wear it is not racism, it's professionalism.


I never claimed the NBA was racist. I claimed Tikker and Kahar were.
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Postby kaharthemad » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:51 pm

Zanchief wrote:That said, they should still adhere to the dress code because you bigoted attitude is all too common, Kahar.


No They should adhere to it because the compnay says they have to. My point was made that images are everything.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:52 pm

kaharthemad wrote:
Zanchief wrote:That said, they should still adhere to the dress code because you bigoted attitude is all too common, Kahar.


No They should adhere to it because the compnay says they have to. My point was made that images are everything.


We agree on everything except your perception of black people.
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Postby kaharthemad » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:05 pm

Zanchief wrote:
Donnel wrote:The point is, Iverson is calling what the NBA did racist.

Racist? Racist would be the NBA saying, black people can't wear bling, but white people can.

Not allowing anyone to wear it is not racism, it's professionalism.


I never claimed the NBA was racist. I claimed Tikker and Kahar were.


hmmm please explain your definition of Racist because stupid people like yourself cant seem to get definitions down right...let me do it for you:

Websters dictionary
Racism:The inherent belief in the superiority of one race over all others and thereby the right to dominance.

Racist: person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others

Neither of these seem to fit.

Perhaps the word you were reaching for is predjudist...hmmm

Predjudist:irrational hatred or suspicion of a specific group, race, or religion

Nope that does not fit either. since my suspicion is founded on statisuical information. There are more 'gangsta's (both white and black), in prisons then there are rednecks. I think my suspcion is well founded. And I believe the statisics will back this up. So yeah I hold suspicion against anyone wearing gang colors and or dressing like a gangsta.

Image Yeah this guy proves your point so well zan...BTW wearing a bullet proof vest is a class d misdemeanor in most states...but it is all the image huh?
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Postby Donnel » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:06 pm

kaharthemad wrote:thing is the NBA signs the paycheck..if they want them to be in a team mascot outfit while sitting on the bench that is their right to dictate such.

I long for the old days when you could look at a basketball player and respect him on and off the court. Those days are over here as they are in baseball and football sad to say.

The days of Larry Byrd, as a role model for the great orange ball of hapiness, George Brett as the icon of Major League, and Walter Payton as the guy you wanted to be when you picked teams for a friendly game of football are over.

If the dress code will start making these pricks look a little more respectful and not like some dimestore hood out for what he can get works then great.

If they dont like the rules perhaps McDonalds is hiring.


I woudl really love to take my boys to a game of Baseball or basektball or hell even football but I honestly dont think I want them thinking these people are great people. Most of them are thugs and useless trash.


Kahar never said that if it would make those "blacks" look more respectful. He called them pricks.

Zan, on this one, you sir are racist, inferring that only black people can dress like dimestore hoods.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:08 pm

Zanchief wrote:
Donnel wrote:The point is, Iverson is calling what the NBA did racist.

Racist? Racist would be the NBA saying, black people can't wear bling, but white people can.

Not allowing anyone to wear it is not racism, it's professionalism.


I never claimed the NBA was racist. I claimed Tikker and Kahar were.


explain to me how I'm racist


I don't believe I've mentioned a single race in this discussion, just generic basketball players

it seems to me that YOU are the one with the racist leanings
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Postby kaharthemad » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:14 pm

Zanchief wrote:
kaharthemad wrote:
Zanchief wrote:That said, they should still adhere to the dress code because you bigoted attitude is all too common, Kahar.


No They should adhere to it because the compnay says they have to. My point was made that images are everything.


We agree on everything except your perception of black people.


Got no problem with black people..what I do have problems with is the dregs of society hiding behind the race card. At no given time did I ever say"we need to get rid of all black people from the game"
What I did say was "I belive all sports people need to adhere to a modicum of decency in their dress code on and off the court." Paraphrased of course. but still you get the jist.

If a white guy dresses like a thug he is also considered a thug in my book...appearance is everything.

If there is 2 people that come in for a job interview one guy is white and dressed like a damn thug and a black guy dressed in a Halston business suit, both have the same training I will pick the Guy in the zoot suit since his professional demeanor shows the modicum of decency I would like reflected in my company..I will flat out tell him you got the job because you look professional. I will tell the other guy, "sorry you lost the job cause you look like a idiot.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:14 pm

kaharthemad wrote:I woudl really love to take my boys to a game of Baseball or basektball or hell even football but I honestly dont think I want them thinking these people are great people. Most of them are thugs and useless trash.


That's racist. A race is not stated but it certainly is implied.

You may think that implication is, in itself, racist, Donnel. But anyone who would care to actually think about could make the connection, even if you want to cry wolf for the sake of misguided hypocrisy.

But I think you're missing the point. I don't think the league is racist, I think people who have made inflammatory and negative generalisations about "thugs", as an image type, are racist.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:17 pm

Zanchief wrote:
kaharthemad wrote:I woudl really love to take my boys to a game of Baseball or basektball or hell even football but I honestly dont think I want them thinking these people are great people. Most of them are thugs and useless trash.


That's racist. A race is not stated but it certainly is implied.

You may think that implication is, in itself, racist, Donnel. But anyone who would care to actually think about could make the connection, even if you want to cry wolf for the sake of misguided hypocrisy.

But I think you're missing the point. I don't think the league is racist, I think people who have made inflammatory and negative generalisations about "thugs", as an image type, are racist.


um, try again sparky

you're the one associating thugs with black people

no one else
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:17 pm

Tikker wrote:
Zanchief wrote:
Donnel wrote:The point is, Iverson is calling what the NBA did racist.

Racist? Racist would be the NBA saying, black people can't wear bling, but white people can.

Not allowing anyone to wear it is not racism, it's professionalism.


I never claimed the NBA was racist. I claimed Tikker and Kahar were.


explain to me how I'm racist


I don't believe I've mentioned a single race in this discussion, just generic basketball players

it seems to me that YOU are the one with the racist leanings


I'm sure you were talking about John Stockton when you were talking about "thugs".
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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:19 pm

who's John Stackton
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:20 pm

Tikker wrote:
Zanchief wrote:
kaharthemad wrote:I woudl really love to take my boys to a game of Baseball or basektball or hell even football but I honestly dont think I want them thinking these people are great people. Most of them are thugs and useless trash.


That's racist. A race is not stated but it certainly is implied.

You may think that implication is, in itself, racist, Donnel. But anyone who would care to actually think about could make the connection, even if you want to cry wolf for the sake of misguided hypocrisy.

But I think you're missing the point. I don't think the league is racist, I think people who have made inflammatory and negative generalisations about "thugs", as an image type, are racist.


um, try again sparky

you're the one associating thugs with black people

no one else


No, I'm the only one SAYING you're associating. You did imply it, unfortunately.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:21 pm

ps

thug

n : an aggressive and violent young criminal


Notice the lack of a racial description
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:23 pm

Tikker wrote:who's John Stockton


He was a thug.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:23 pm

Zanchief wrote:No, I'm the only one SAYING you're associating. You did imply it, unfortunately.


feel free to point out where I made any mention of race

or even remotely implied a race



You're the one equating gangster and thug with black people

no one else
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:25 pm

Tikker wrote:feel free to point out where I made any mention of race

or even remotely implied a race



You're the one equating gangster and thug with black people

no one else


Sure.
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Postby kaharthemad » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:10 pm

Zanchief wrote:
kaharthemad wrote:I woudl really love to take my boys to a game of Baseball or basektball or hell even football but I honestly dont think I want them thinking these people are great people. Most of them are thugs and useless trash.


That's racist. A race is not stated but it certainly is implied.

You may think that implication is, in itself, racist, Donnel. But anyone who would care to actually think about could make the connection, even if you want to cry wolf for the sake of misguided hypocrisy.

But I think you're missing the point. I don't think the league is racist, I think people who have made inflammatory and negative generalisations about "thugs", as an image type, are racist.

hey moron...a thug is not a racist. a thug is anyone who dresses the part. thugs are not a race. nor is rednecks. But of course your too predjudist in your own mind to figure this out. If I considered all blacks thugs I would not have referred to ole 'sweetness' as someone to look up to. Nor would I consider Hank Aaron a great sports Icon. I dont consider Mike Tyson a Icon since he a thug and a idot. You see the difference? If not yeah I can see your confusion in your life.
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Postby lareau » Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:03 pm

the dress code is so stupid! I think Zan is such an idiot!
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Postby Haylo » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:52 pm

My problem with the dress code is imo it's so totally hypocritical <sp?>. The NBA makes money because of the image that these players project. If you don't believe that, you don't pay attention. Try going to buy an official NBA jersey, tell me the smallest size you're able to find. I tried to buy my 13 year old nephew a jersey, all we can find is xxl+. The NBA is making tons of money because these young people are looking at that hip hop style and emulating <sp?> it. It's then a huge joke for them to make a mandatory dress code I feel. I bet that if sales start to slip on some merchandise that these players now can no longer wear (they wore a lot of these big jersey and t-shirts with team logs) that policy will not remain in effect for too long.
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Postby Malluas » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:56 pm

zan exactly (most are good guys).. prob is those (majority) in the spotlight the most act gangsta so everyone thinks they are all no class thugs.

and allen is a thug has been and always will be.. just cause he doesn't explode a fat guys face on the court during a brawl doesn't mean he doesn't do other stupid shit thats considered thuggery


Haylo.. yea thats true but what isn't hypocritical? But you can be hypocritical and have one of your sides right.. aka the dress code. Same reason high school basketball makes guys with tattoos put patches over them. But again NBA does make a killin with the Lebron mink coat look, and the iverson i am thug till i die look.

I don't see the I am a goodytwoshoe Duncan look selling
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:01 pm

kaharthemad wrote:
Zanchief wrote:
kaharthemad wrote:I woudl really love to take my boys to a game of Baseball or basektball or hell even football but I honestly dont think I want them thinking these people are great people. Most of them are thugs and useless trash.


That's racist. A race is not stated but it certainly is implied.

You may think that implication is, in itself, racist, Donnel. But anyone who would care to actually think about could make the connection, even if you want to cry wolf for the sake of misguided hypocrisy.

But I think you're missing the point. I don't think the league is racist, I think people who have made inflammatory and negative generalisations about "thugs", as an image type, are racist.

hey moron...a thug is not a racist. a thug is anyone who dresses the part. thugs are not a race. nor is rednecks. But of course your too predjudist in your own mind to figure this out. If I considered all blacks thugs I would not have referred to ole 'sweetness' as someone to look up to. Nor would I consider Hank Aaron a great sports Icon. I dont consider Mike Tyson a Icon since he a thug and a idot. You see the difference? If not yeah I can see your confusion in your life.


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