Washington Redskins

[Diekan]

There a few Redskin fans here so I thought we'd discuss the upcoming game.

I don't think Washington has what it takes *this year* to beat the Pats. You've got a good team, but it's still in its construction and development stages at the moment.

I know Washington's D is looking pretty strong this year, but you've yet to play a team at the caliber of NE.

You're going to HAVE to double team The Freak (a.k.a Moss)... there's just no if and's or but's about it. You saw what he's capable of during the Miami game. So, you double team the freak and that's going to open routes for Stallworth, Gaffney, and Welker more than likely with just man coverage who are going to burn you.

If you try to jam up the box with 8 Brady will shred your secondary into confetti. You try to play pass protection and double cover the receivers... Maroney, Faulk, Evans, and Morris will annihilate you on the ground.

I just can't see how Washington's D is going to stop this high powered offense. NE's D is ranked 3 in the league, and with your O struggling to put points on the board, I see a LOT of 3 and outs.

The good news is, you guys haven't been running your mouth about videogate or making slanderous statements about the Pats records or SB's. With that said, I don't think BB is going to destroy you like he has been doing to the others who jumped on the Jet's banwagon of attacking the Pats.

Then again - he might just keep the fire fueled and push the team to crush you into rubble "just because."

It might be a good game, but I can't see that. Seymore might be back... BB does a good job of keeping the injury reports very hush hush. If Seymore DOES come back for this game... you're toast before it even starts.

There is one way you can win! Shoot down the team plane before it lands in Washington.

[Xaiveir]

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[Jay]

I wonder if Montana/Rice got the same fairweather blowjob that Brady/Moss are getting.

[Xaiveir]

Washington is the exact type of team that will be dangerous to the Pats. Note, i did not say will beat the Pats.

They have a fast defense, with good coverage corners. Shawn Springs will match up well vs. Moss. I do not have the exact numbers, but Springs has played very well against Moss in his career, and is one of the premier corners in the league.

The Redskins disguise their blitz schemes and defenses better than any team the Pats have played so far. While Brady is second only to Manning in reading defenses, this is a very tough one to diagnose. Expect to see Brady changing the plays at the line constantly, and watch the redskins change afterwards.

They also have a good running game with 2 different backs. The key to beating the pats this year, is to control the clock. Keep Brady off the field, if you have multiple 3 and out series, it allows Brady to get into a rithym, which is deadly to defenses.

I see a low scoring game in this one. Betting man i say 20-13 pats. I do not believe that the patriots will blow them out, and i think they will struggle for the first part of the game. 10-7 halftime lead for the Redskins.

Again, i am not picking the Redskins to win. I just will not be surprised if they pull off the upset.

PS. "The Freak" moniker that you have bestowed upon Moss, is already taken. Talk with Jevon Kearse first, ask if its ok.

[Griever]

I live in Northern VA and have been a Skins fan all my life so I know exactly what the Redskins are going through. I think its going to be a very good game, but the Pats will pull out a win because of our offensive woes.

Our O-Line has gone through more injuries than any team in the NFL. We have lost our RT and RG for the year. Our other two back up tackles are playing through injuries as well. This is why we our running game has faltered over the last 3 to 4 games. And in a Joe Gibb's offense the rush sets up the pass. Not one of our WRs have a TD this season.

Homerism aside, I believe we really do have the best defense in the NFL. The stats say otherwise, but what other team in the NFL has had to play with as bad an offense that cant control the ball and keep the defense off the field. I've even made a bet with my friend that this will be the first game the Patriots won't score 30 points or more.

So our defense will keep the game close but the offense just won't be enough to keep up with your's. I am still excited though and I wish you guys the best of luck.

Oh and watch our for Sean Taylor.

[Harrison]

I wonder if Montana/Rice got the same fairweather blowjob that Brady/Moss are getting.

Brady was a force long before Moss. So, that's a pretty ridiculous implication.

[Tikker]

errr, you're missing the point finawin


ps, montana was a force long before he got rice (which is also off point, but should have been pointed out anyways since you're being retarded)

[Harrison]

I don't pay attention to hype.

I didn't miss any point. To say it's "fairweather" is ridiculous for the same reasons we both just stated.

[Tikker]

I don't pay attention to hype.

I didn't miss any point. To say it's "fairweather" is ridiculous for the same reasons we both just stated.

the fairweather is only in reference to Diekan's sudden transformation to a brady fan

aka

you missed the point

[Harrison]

Ok, so I did, unless he is indeed talking about the media.

I figured he was.

[Haylo]

We will not win but i'm hoping that we will give them the best opposition they've faced all year. Our defense is just playing crazy good atm; also considering the fact that they spend most of the game on the field since the Offense is producing jack and shit, I really do think they are the best around this season. The game will be lose because we can not score. Campbell has no protection and consequently most of what he's forced to throw are short passes and hope for yards after a catch. Occasionally he airs it out, but we've had a lot of issues with our WRs holding on to the ball this year so I don't expect big gains down the field.

I will say this though, if the defense is able to disrupt Brady's rhythm enough to get Sean Taylor going, watch out. Now that he's playing smarter football and not committing the dumb "i'm a big man" penalties, I really don't think there's anyone at his position to compare to him. He's just so good. He's leading the league atm with 5 interceptions and he's a definite threat for running the ball back for a TD when he does intercept.

[Diekan]

I don't see Taylor really being a problem. He's good - no question about that. But, he's going to have his hands full keeping Moss contained. What are you going to do about Stallworth, Gaf and Welker? Taylor can't cover them all. While Moss is a freak of nature as a receiver - Stallworth and co are quite capable of getting it done.

[Griever]

The thing about the Redskin's secondary is that they don't keep the same corners or safeties on the same receivers the whole game. Gregg Williams likes to switch up coverages. He mostly uses man to man, but will also drop into zone. Using Sean Taylor and Springs to cover Moss will work pretty effectively. Rogers, Smoot and Landry can handle the underneath stuff to Welker and Watson.

You guys are going to get your yardage, but I think you'll be surprised how much trouble we'll actually give you. Taylor has had 4 interceptions in the last 3 games and he has really shocked me with how much range he has. He's gone from midfield to sideline to pick off balls thrown to wide open receivers. I can almost promise you Brady will get picked off once or twice.

Our defense is all I really have to talk about though, I'm kind of ashamed of our offense.

[Tikker]

I don't think covering receivers is the way to beat them

I think the biggest thing is to finally get some heat on brady

with the way the o-line has been playing, I could loft the ball up for moss to go get and probably win games

[Ouchyfish]

I don't think covering receivers is the way to beat them

I think the biggest thing is to finally get some heat on brady

with the way the o-line has been playing, I could loft the ball up for moss to go get and probably win games

I don't understand why the dolphins didn't try that strategy. I mean, hell, blitz every other play. At some point one of them 300 pound tubbies are gonna splat Brady, hopefully putting him out for a few weeks, problem solved.

[Haylo]

I don't see Taylor really being a problem. He's good - no question about that. But, he's going to have his hands full keeping Moss contained. What are you going to do about Stallworth, Gaf and Welker? Taylor can't cover them all. While Moss is a freak of nature as a receiver - Stallworth and co are quite capable of getting it done.

Randy Moss is not a new entity that no one has faced before. In the two previous times Moss has been on the field with Sean Taylor present, he has a combined 8 catches for 106 yards and 1 TD. That's not insurmountable

[Diekan]

This is true, but it's just the arsenal of weapons at Brady's disposal that going to make the difference here.

One thing I will say about Miami is that they actually did a decent job of slowing/stopping the running game some. Saw a lot of very short gains. What killed them was not getting pressure on Brady and letting Moss burn into charcoal.

I said before I think Washington has a good solid D, but it's your O that's going to hurt you. The inability of the offense to put points on the board is going to do you in.

[Griever]

I expected to get beat, but not like that. I blame the offense for why the score was as lopsided as it was.

As far as everyone crying that you guys ran the score up on us I say if you don't want the score run up on you don't get your ass handed to you so they can run the score up.

The Patriots are a great team and next week should be a really exciting game.

[Ouchyfish]

They seem like a "good" team playing against really shitty opponents. I think they are benefitting from a mostly lackluster year for 99% of the NFL.

Brady is good, but his receiver/line are the key. Let the fucker get hurt and you will see what I mean.

[Haylo]

Yea that was just ridiculous. Gibbs needs to retire and take Saunders with him. I don't know what the f they are thinking of but the offense is non-existent and there really is no reason for it considering what they have at their disposal. They should be producing more points. It was bound to happen that someone was going to blow us out. The defense is getting absolutely nothing from the offense and after a while that's going to cause a collapse which is exactly what happened yesterday. As far as running the score up, I don't know why he felt the need to go for a 4th and 2 when they were ahead by 38 points, there really is no excuse for that. Otherwise i've never thought teams should shut down their offense when they are ahead.

[Gypsiyee]

Goodness, by the 3rd quarter I was just embarrassed. I knew the skins stood no chance with the weak offense but I really thought they'd at least stifle the score a little bit with their d. I don't view the skins as a bad team at all, I like them a fair amount having grown up so near them - I figured well the dolphins didn't get completely taken to the cleaners and they're godawful embarrassingly bad.. surely the skins can do something to stop the force of the pats.. my gracious, that was terrible ><

I was sure it was going to be a shutout, so I'm glad they were at least able to get on the board.

[Griever]

Well you have to remember the Dolphins are in the same division as the Pats so they are far more familiar with them than the Skins. That may seem silly, but trust me, it is a factor.

The pats really shouldnt have scored 52 points on us. The offense gave up 17 points on turnovers and made our defense look like highschoolers. This offensive inneptitude is really starting to make me question Gibbs and Saunders.

Anyways, I still went to work this morning with my Skins jacket on. We may have got embarrassed, but I'm a fan for life.

[Gidan]

Every time someone complains about a team running up the score, I am reminded of my high school soccer coach. "We will stop scoring as soon as you guarantee you will stop trying to score." I have been on both sides of this, personally I would rather have a tea run up the score then know they actually had to try to not score. Nothing feels worse then a team putting in their 3rd string and you can tell they are just playing with you while still holding back.

[Tikker]

Nothing feels worse then a team putting in their 3rd string and you can tell they are just playing with you while still holding back.

I agree 100%