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Postby Xaiveir » Wed May 18, 2005 8:40 am

Ive got to say that this is the worst officiated post season that i can remember.

Watching the Sonics game last night was infuriating. Not just because im a Sonics fan. Sonics played like crap last night, but ticky tac fouls on the Spurs were not being called, but the Sonics were getting every call against them.

Manu had a brilliant game, that was impressive. But some of the fouls with continuation leading to a basket were weak at best. One official without good position overuling another, when Robert Horry went up for a basket and hit the back of the backboard. The first official (with the best view) calls it Sonics ball, good call replay shows that he made the correct call. But the offside official standing 20 feet away calls it out on the Sonics and the Spurs retain posetion.

Now again, not just because im a Sonics fan am I saying this. Spurs got jipped on some calls in game 4 in Seattle. However Duncan should have fouled out by half time with some of the fouls that were not called on him.

You would think that they would have the best officials officiating a game, but by and large the NBA referees' are horrible at best. It really takes the fun out of watching a game.

Ok i feel better after ranting :wink:
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Postby vonkaar » Wed May 18, 2005 9:00 am

I completely agree with the above statements.
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Postby xaoshaen » Wed May 18, 2005 9:02 am

I grew up as a Sonic fan, and I have to say they bring a lot of the foul calls on themselves. If there's any doubt as to who initiated contact, Fortson, Evans, and James are always going to receive the detriment of the doubt, simply because they're so... exuberant about their role as bruisers.
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Postby Xaiveir » Wed May 18, 2005 9:13 am

Absolutly and i agree Xao. But even if they bring it on themselves the referees should still call a game right down the middle. Duncan is just as physical as Evans and James (not going to say as fortsen because that guy pisses me off), but doesnt get fouls called on him because of how the league percieves him.

Shaq does not get fouls called against him and he is one of the most physical guys out there. What about Rasheed and Ben Wallace, they are not less physical than James Evans or Fortsen.

I dont want to turn this into a Hey the Sonics got screwed last night. Thats not what this is about. This is about officiating a game correctly. It should NOT matter if a guy is veiwed as a Thug or a clean cut pretty boy. A foul is a foul is a foul is a foul. There should be no disparity between a foul called on one person to another.

I was just using the Sonics game as a basis to go off of. I could put many many other calls from that game in here, IE Flip Murray getting called for palming/carrying the basketball. WTF was that, Jordan, Iverson, Stockton, Magic, Ginobli last night all did what murray did.

Bottom line fire all NBA officials and hire people that can do the job better.
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Re: NBA officials

Postby Lyion » Wed May 18, 2005 10:54 am

Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Ive got to say that this is the worst officiated post season that i can remember.

Watching the Sonics game last night was infuriating. Not just because im a Sonics fan. Sonics played like crap last night, but ticky tac fouls on the Spurs were not being called, but the Sonics were getting every call against them.



Its a two way street. There were a lot of noncalls on BOTH sides. When Allen hit Bowen upside the head the Ref didnt give him a T. I saw a lot of dink fouls that weren't called both ways.

There were a few times were Forston physically moved Duncan and it wasn't called.

Given the huge amount of acting going on, it's really tough to call things fair. I think the officiating in that game was in a word 'balanced.
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Postby Tacks » Wed May 18, 2005 11:17 am

I'm at work so I don't have time to read the entire post but I 110% totally agree that last nights game was THE worst fucking officiated game I have EVER seen. They fucked up on both sides, constantly...stupid call after stupid call.

The funniest was the out of bounds call on Tim Duncan when the ball was a good 2 feet from the line.

Manu is a fucking gimp, I hate him. He totally does the Soccer-player-omg-my-leg-is-broken acting maneuvers when he even gets touched. He's a good player but he's so fucking cheap.
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Re: NBA officials

Postby Xaiveir » Wed May 18, 2005 11:59 am

Lyion wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Ive got to say that this is the worst officiated post season that i can remember.

Watching the Sonics game last night was infuriating. Not just because im a Sonics fan. Sonics played like crap last night, but ticky tac fouls on the Spurs were not being called, but the Sonics were getting every call against them.



Its a two way street. There were a lot of noncalls on BOTH sides. When Allen hit Bowen upside the head the Ref didnt give him a T. I saw a lot of dink fouls that weren't called both ways.

There were a few times were Forston physically moved Duncan and it wasn't called.

Given the huge amount of acting going on, it's really tough to call things fair. I think the officiating in that game was in a word 'balanced.



Yes. As i said i dont mean this as a Sonics got screwed post. I also mentioned that the spurs were screwed also.

Point of the post, is that to be consistently wrong is not right. It doesnt matter if there were no calls on both sides, thing is there was. While other patty cake shit fouls were called.

Balanced officiating as you said, still is not good officiating. The level of officiating itself needs to improve to get some of the fans back that basketball has lost.
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Postby Lyion » Wed May 18, 2005 1:02 pm

True enough, but with every player out there trying to get an Oscar in acting, and the craziness going on, how would you officiate and not make a call every 30 seconds?

I actually prefer when they let them play and only call the occasional foul. I'll agree it was not a well called game, but it was decided on the court, and not by the zebras.
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Postby Tacks » Wed May 18, 2005 1:21 pm

Well the outcome wouldn't have been different...still that's not an excuse to be officiated worse than a church league basketball game.
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Postby Xaiveir » Wed May 18, 2005 1:22 pm

Lyion wrote:True enough, but with every player out there trying to get an Oscar in acting, and the craziness going on, how would you officiate and not make a call every 30 seconds?

I actually prefer when they let them play and only call the occasional foul. I'll agree it was not a well called game, but it was decided on the court, and not by the zebras.



Absolutly. The game was decided on the court. Sonics just didnt show up. But the Zebras did make it difficult.
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Postby xaoshaen » Wed May 18, 2005 1:35 pm

One of the big problems with playoff officiating stems from the shift in play. Generally speaking, the play becomes much more physical after the regular season ends. After Karl whined about the non-calls in the Denver-SA series, the refs called the game much more rigorously in Game, ummm, 4, I think. The resultant 73 fouls and 90-odd free throws completely destroyed any semblance of flow to the game.
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Postby Susvain » Thu May 26, 2005 7:09 pm

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