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by **Harrison** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:02 am

Im most likely going priest, Im just curious.

How's soloing going for you, does it slow down immensely past 20ish?

Are you a cleric bitch in groups like EQ?

Etc.

by **Tacks** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:07 am

Here's how it goes. He groups with people 10+ levels above him, gets agro from 3 miles away and dies....the shaman rezzes him, he fills his mana up, heals us once and gets more agro and dies.

shit ><

Actually he does pretty fucking good for his level

by **The Kizzy** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:21 am

Well, last night, Vonk, 10sun, Mommymoocow, me, and some random shaman did Stromgarde and we did pretty freaking well, except for the time that Vonkaar got scared and ran away, and I had to solo 3 elites my level. But I did it!!! Because I am bad ass.

by **Tacks** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:24 am

Are these the same "solos" like when I tank a mob to 10% of my life and they you go DAMN I SOLOED THAT ONE lol

by **The Kizzy** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:32 am

No two group members (Mommy and Adam) died, and the other two (Vonk and the random shaman) ran, leaving me and Sakresh to take care of the last three standing. I chain feared two while Sakresh tanked one with me blasting and slowing every 15 seconds for good measure, then I took out the second one, burned a mana potion and a Healthstone, tanked the second one to death, and the third one ALMOST had me, btu then another group finished him off, after I had tanked to 10%.

by **Tacks** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:43 am

lolol

by **vonkaar** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:56 am

I think I solo as good as anyone... as far as difficulty is concerned. I haven't seen a single class that can solo SINGLE targets as well. Aten's warrior is pretty fucking scary about chewing through multiple enemies... but I think I might do better against single targets... although, my downtime is probably greater due to mana regen.

But... other than warrior, I am pretty sure that I am about as capable as can be for solo'ing single targets. For instance, I was recently killing those drywhisker guys near Hammerfall in Arathi. The camp was 'shared' between a lvl 40 nigh-elf druid and myself. Maybe it can be chalked up to the typical 'alliance players suck' response, but I was clearing my mobs (2 levels higher than me, 4 levels lower than him) a lot faster than he was. I basically ran 2/3rds of the camp whiel he stuck it out in the remaining third.

I read a lot of discussion on which talent page to go with... some say Shadow is the best... others say Holy... some make hybrids... others stress discipline. Personally, I can't see anything in Holy that makes me even slightly interested. The Discipline tree has a few bits that are *very* nice... The holy word (power word? wtf): Shield set is crucial. This is the priest rune that lasts for 30 seconds. The talent is a 3-part set that decreases the 'decay' time by 5 seconds each. So, with 3 points in it, the rune lasts for 30 seconds and I can recast it every 15. This *does* save lives and is reason enough to invest in the discipline tree. The other nice one is the holy word: fortitude set. It is a 2 part that increases the effectiveness of my sta buff... by 15 and 30 percent each. So, my level 34 sta buff is 42 instead of 32... nice 100hp difference for only 2 talent points.

Shadow is where most priests like to dump their points. There are only a few 'great' ones in there... but the rest are pretty nice, especially if you PVP a lot. The main one I like is the first one, 'spirit tap'. This is amazing for solo'ing because it will go off after every kill. Basically, it doubles your spirit for 15 seconds when you get the final blow in on a mob. The lame 'no mana regen for 5 seconds after cast' *can* really hurt the benefits of this talent, but it's still great. After a big kill that would leave me low on mana, spirit-tap combined with drinking is usually enough to get me FM within 10 seconds. Another cool bit.. it goes off after EVERY kill. If I'm LM, I can target a 'rat', shoot it with my wand and get the 15 seconds of 310spirit really quick. That's a great feature.

The other brilliant shadow talent is Mind Flay. Can't praise this one enough. It's totally changed the way I solo.

The fun PVP ones are the mana burn booster... decreases the cast time on mana burn and the one that can (10% chance) stun the opponent for 3 seconds. It seems that the priests I've dueled (only 2 and they both sucked) didn't know about these two talents =p.

Soooo anyway... priests are a lot of fun to solo with.

The DOWNSIDE (so far) is grouping.

I'm sure that I'll have a lot more fun when I'm equal level to the groups I've been in lately...

The other day, I was 35&36 in a group with a 52druid, 50rogue and 48 warrior. I was able to keep people healed well enough... but the 2 dungeons we cleared were waaaaaaaay too high for me. Zul'Farrak and Uldaman. Since I couldn't cast on almost anything (rare mobs here and there in Uld, NOTHING in ZF though)... my job was basically defined as, staring at green bars all day. I had to hang way in the back, against the walls so I didn't range-agro... but even that wasn't enough all-to-often. If we got swarmed by a bunch of non-taunted mobs, they almost always went after me. Sometimes I was able to get away with a fade, but it didn't always help.

Regardless... it's pretty nice being able to contribute to a group that's a lot higher than me. When we went to ZF, we went with another high-level warrior who wasn't guilded and he had no complaints about my healing in ZF. So... I think I do a fine job, but it's easy to get distracted when you are bored. I'm pretty sure that this feeling will pass as I get closer in level to the people I group with.

In short...

Priests are great solo'ers... maybe even the best. They are critical in groups, despite what so many others on the whining WoW boards say. The only problem I can see is boredom. If you are nuking a lot and contributing to the battle, you'll have fun... if the mobs are too high and you can't do anything but keep your party alive... you'll be bored.

by **DangerPaul** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:04 am

I would play Wow if Vonk had my man babies...

by **Tacks** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:12 am

make it so

by **Tacks** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:16 am

nerf priest charm

by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:58 am

by **Harrison** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:20 am

Im sold moreso than I was before, thanks Vonk.

by **vonkaar** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:26 am

just... don't do alliance...

I'm siding more and more with Taxx every time I see them.

by **10sun** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:37 pm

Tikker wrote:Priests will never go without a group unless they've got a reputation as a shitty healer, and then will still probably get groups

This part is especially true with Vonkaar.

Warriors own though. Just can't solo stuff beyond 2 levels higher effectively.

-Adam

by **vonkaar** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:31 pm

Shrug.. most people say I do a pretty good job healing =p

by **Tacks** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:40 pm

At least Vonkaar isn't whining the whole time while playing=P

by **10sun** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:51 pm

about mageweave being used by multiple tradeskills?

-Adam

ps. I only whine when travelling, when I play I tend not to talk.

by **vonkaar** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:13 pm

He has that strong-silent type thing going for him.

And... it's working :love:

by **10sun** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:00 pm

I can't talk trash near as much without slowing down the pace of the group, pay attention to that =P

-Adam

by **Zanchief** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:27 pm

Shamans solo better then clerics vonk, and I come out with full mana and health.

by **Dosi** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:42 pm

HAHA if a higher level druid couldn't outpace you he must have been mentally and physically retarded, I can kill about 3 mobs a minute at even con, chain-pulling. I can kill a hell of a lot faster than that, but I don't like sitting. At even levels most classes solo about the same speed over a long enough period of time, dependent on the mob type.

P.S. Teamspeak is the way to go, that way you can bitch, talk trash, and yell at each other without having to stop for typing.

by **The Kizzy** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:47 pm

wish I could get teamspeak, but I dont even know what it is /sigh

by **Dosi** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:50 pm

http://www.teamspeak.org/

Free program, all you need is speakers and a mic, or a headset. Me and Grawr only use that to communicate, that's why whenever you group with the two of us we're two steps ahead heh.

by **The Kizzy** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:57 pm

and if I get it then I can talk to you guys, is there a certain server? How does it work. Cliff notes please, I hate reading

by **Dosi** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:09 pm

Grawr always insists on running the server we use on his second computer, because he's a whiny bitch.
He only turns the server on when it's convenient for him.
He lives in Utah (hahahahaha) and works until like 7 or 8 pm Mountain when you guys are usually asleep.
If you want me to setup a server for Nameless Sanctuary players to use I can do that pretty easily on one of my servers.
If you get enough people that are actually interested and able to use it, I'll do it this week and post how to log on.

I'd message you how to log on to his server, but it's never online, so you'd just think you were doing it wrong. :P

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