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Postby Narrock » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:32 pm

Drinking a liquid from an animal seems very gross to me. If I have milk, it's always soy milk.
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Postby Donnel » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:33 pm

Narrock wrote:Drinking a liquid from an animal seems very gross to me. If I have milk, it's always soy milk.


Hrm, who's gonna take the honors on this one?
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Postby Narrock » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:39 pm

Donnel wrote:
Narrock wrote:Drinking a liquid from an animal seems very gross to me. If I have milk, it's always soy milk.


Hrm, who's gonna take the honors on this one?


It's true man. Drinking milk from a cow is a disgusting thought, imo.
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Postby Jimmy Durante » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:46 pm

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Postby Harrison » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:52 pm

ZOOOOOOOOOOM

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Postby Narrock » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:52 pm

No, I got it. I was just trying to get him to reflect on it for a moment.
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Postby Diekan » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:46 am

Narrock wrote:
It's true man. Drinking man-milk from a cowboy seems very umm umm good to me, imo.
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Postby Snero » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:06 am

soy milk has been shown to cause problems too

soy and thyroid

Isoflavones, the key components of soy that make them so potent as a posible substitute for hormone replacement, mean that soy products, while touted as foods and nutritional products -- often are used and act as like a hormonal drug.


FDA's Soy Experts Speak Out Against Soy

"there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans.

Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."


soy and breast cancer/estrogen

Claims, Benefits: A "natural" way to replenish the aging body's declining estrogen levels and thus relieve menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, as well as decrease the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, without promoting breast cancer.


Like pretty much anything, this isn't saying soy is bad, or will cause any health problems, but it does increase the risk, and people with existing thyroid problems should be very careful
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Postby Martrae » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:36 am

See.....nutritional information changes all the time.

Eggs are good...no they're bad!
Milk is good...no it's bad!
Enriched white bread is the best cuz it's full of vitamins! No, whole grain is best cuz it's full of fiber!

See what I mean?
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Postby Zanchief » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:43 am

No one becomes 400lbs from eating enriched white bread though Mart. Specifics may change, but common sense pretty much stays the same.
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Postby Martrae » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:12 am

I'd argue semantics..but for the most part you're right. :)

When I was young cooking in lard was common. My grandmothers did it all the time. Then came the 'oh noes, lard is bad, butter is bad, mmkay'. So margarine became common.

Quite honestly, when people ate butter and cooked with lard there was less of a weight problem. It's the overrefining of natural substances that's bad. Processed packaged ready to go crap with absolutely no redeeming qualities except it's quick, that's the main weight culprit nowadays, IMO .
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Postby araby » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:41 am

Martrae wrote:I'd argue semantics..but for the most part you're right. :)

When I was young cooking in lard was common. My grandmothers did it all the time. Then came the 'oh noes, lard is bad, butter is bad, mmkay'. So margarine became common.

Quite honestly, when people ate butter and cooked with lard there was less of a weight problem. It's the overrefining of natural substances that's bad. Processed packaged ready to go crap with absolutely no redeeming qualities except it's quick, that's the main weight culprit nowadays, IMO .


I'd agree with the latter part of this and not only because it's probably 100% true but because I was also raised on lard (hah) and everything was pretty much home-made. I remember when instant mashed potatoes came out and my mom was like, "WTF is this shit??" There was no box macaroni, etc..and in my experience, eating foods with all of the preservatives and everything else tends to upset my stomach, where fresh food does not.
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Postby Narrock » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:20 am

Snero wrote:soy milk has been shown to cause problems too

soy and thyroid

Isoflavones, the key components of soy that make them so potent as a posible substitute for hormone replacement, mean that soy products, while touted as foods and nutritional products -- often are used and act as like a hormonal drug.


FDA's Soy Experts Speak Out Against Soy

"there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans.

Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."


soy and breast cancer/estrogen

Claims, Benefits: A "natural" way to replenish the aging body's declining estrogen levels and thus relieve menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, as well as decrease the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, without promoting breast cancer.


Like pretty much anything, this isn't saying soy is bad, or will cause any health problems, but it does increase the risk, and people with existing thyroid problems should be very careful


I don't drink that much soy milk anyway.
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Postby Dylan » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:22 pm

I would like some milk from the milk mans wife's tits
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Postby Zanchief » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:24 pm

Dylan wrote:I would like some milk from the milk mans wife's tits


Aren't you gay?
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Postby Dylan » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:28 pm

Nothing wrong with getting some good milk though.

Also, its a song.
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Postby Zanchief » Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:31 pm

Dylan wrote:Nothing wrong with getting some good milk though.

Also, its a song.


Oh, I'm a little slow with that kinda stuff.
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Postby Lionking » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:25 pm

Snero wrote:soy milk has been shown to cause problems too

soy and thyroid

Isoflavones, the key components of soy that make them so potent as a posible substitute for hormone replacement, mean that soy products, while touted as foods and nutritional products -- often are used and act as like a hormonal drug.


FDA's Soy Experts Speak Out Against Soy

"there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans.

Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."


soy and breast cancer/estrogen

Claims, Benefits: A "natural" way to replenish the aging body's declining estrogen levels and thus relieve menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, as well as decrease the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, without promoting breast cancer.


Like pretty much anything, this isn't saying soy is bad, or will cause any health problems, but it does increase the risk, and people with existing thyroid problems should be very careful


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Postby Phlegm » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:59 pm

I don't think drinking anything out there will cause that much shrinkage.
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Postby Jay » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:59 pm

Depends. Are you asian?
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Postby Lionking » Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:07 pm

Jay wrote:Depends. Are you asian?


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Postby Jay » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:28 pm

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Postby Lionking » Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:50 pm

boat? ocean? what?
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Postby 10sun » Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:34 pm

Zanchief wrote:
Dylan wrote:Nothing wrong with getting some good milk though.

Also, its a song.


Oh, I'm a little slow with that kinda stuff.


Aphex Twin ftw.
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