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Postby mofish » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:24 pm

http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal. ... 3844-6818r

Opinion: The Muslim mind is on fire
Youssef M. Ibrahim
July 26, 2005

DUBAI -- The world of Islam is on fire. Indeed, the Muslim mind is on fire. Above all, the West is now ready to take both of them on.

The latest reliable report confirms that on average 33 Iraqis die every day, executed by Iraqis and foreign jihadis and suicide bombers, not by US or British soldiers. In fact, fewer than ever US or British soldiers are dying since the invasion more than two years ago. Instead, we now watch on television hundreds of innocent Iraqis lying without limbs, bleeding in the streets dead or wounded for life. If this is jihad someone got his religious education completely upside down.

Palestine is on fire, too, with Palestinian armed groups fighting one another - Hamas against Fatah and all against the Palestinian Authority. All have rendered Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas impotent and have diminished the world's respect and sympathy for Palestinian sufferings.

A couple of weeks ago London was on fire as Pakistani and other Muslims with British citizenship blew up tube stations in the name of Islam. Al Qaeda in Europe or one of its franchises proclaimed proudly the killing of 54 and wounding 700 innocent citizens was done to "avenge Islam" and Muslims.

Madrid was on fire, too, last year, when Muslim jihadis blew up train stations killing 160 people and wounding a few thousands.

The excuse in all the above cases was the war in Iraq, but let us not forget that in September 2001, long before Iraq, Osama Bin Laden proudly announced that he ordered the killing of some 3,000 in the United States, in the name of avenging Islam. Let us not forget that the killing began a long time before the invasion of Iraq.

Indeed, jihadis have been killing for a decade in the name of Islam. They killed innocent tourists and natives in Morocco and Egypt, in Africa, in Indonesia and in Yemen, all done in the name of Islam by Muslims who say that they are better than all other Muslims. They killed in India, in Thailand and are now talking of killing in Germany and Denmark and so on. There were attacks with bombs that killed scores inside Shia and Sunni mosques, inside churches and inside synagogues in Turkey and Tunisia, with Muslim preachers saying that it is okay to kill Jews and Christians - the so called infidels.

Above all, it is the Muslim mind that is on fire.

The Muslim fundamentalist who attacked the Dutch film director Theo Van Gogh in the Netherlands, stabbed him more than 23 times then cut his throat. He recently proudly proclaimed at his trial: "I did it because my religion - Islam - dictated it and I would do it again if were free." Which preacher told this guy this is Islam? That preacher should be in jail with him.

Do the cowardly jihadis who recruit suicide bombers really think that they will force the US Army and British troops out of Iraq by killing hundreds of innocent Iraqis? US troops now have bases and operate in Iraq but also from Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Oman.

The only accomplishment of jihadis is that now they have aroused the great "Western Tiger". There was a time when the United States and Europe welcomed Arab and Muslim immigrants, visitors and students, with open arms. London even allowed all dissidents escaping their countries to preach against those countries under the guise of political refugees.

Well, that is all over now. Time has become for the big Western vengeance.

Visas for Arab and Muslim young men will be impossible to get for the United States and Western Europe. Those working there will be expelled if they are illegal, and harassed even if their papers are in order.

Airlines will have to right to refuse boarding to passengers if their names even resemble names on a prohibited list on all flights heading to Europe and the United States.

What is more important to remember is this: When the West did unite after World War II to beat communism, the long Cold War began without pity. They took no prisoners. They all stood together, from the United States to Norway, from Britain to Spain, from Belgium to Switzerland. And they did bring down the biggest empire. Communism collapsed.

I fear those naïve Muslims who think that they are beating the West have now achieved their worst crime of all. The West is now going to war against not only Muslims, but also, sadly, Islam as a religion.

In this new cold and hot war, car bombs and suicide bombers here and there will be no match for the arsenal that those Westerners are putting together - an arsenal of laws, intelligence pooling, surveillance by satellites, armies of special forces and indeed, allies inside the Arab world who are tired of having their lives disrupted by demented so-called jihadis or those bearded preachers who, under the guise of preaching, do little to teach and much to ignite the fire, those who know little about Islam and nothing about humanity.

Youssef M. Ibrahim, a former Middle East correspondent for The New York Times and energy editor of the Wall Street Journal, is managing director of the Dubai-based Strategic Energy Investment Group
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Postby Narrock » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:02 pm

Great article :boots: Real Muslims are going to start banding together to do what they can to bring down the Jihadists, because if they don't... the world is going to lose their patience for all Muslims, period.
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Postby Ganzo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:18 pm

I like how he conviniently left out Israel from the list of countries that suffered from terrorist attacks
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Postby Wrath Child » Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:37 pm

Maybe he feels Israel doesn't have the right to exist. Maybe he left it out because the Israeli occupation - justified or not - has been responsible for a tremendous amount of innocent Muslim suffering; they deserve to be attacked, he may very well feel. Maybe he just didn't want the whole Israel cloud to hang over his article for fear it would brand him a sympathizer, thus damaging what he wrote in the eyes of his Muslim readers.

Or maybe he thought he covered all of his bases by writing:
There were attacks with bombs that killed scores inside Shia and Sunni mosques, inside churches and inside synagogues in Turkey and Tunisia, with Muslim preachers saying that it is okay to kill Jews and Christians - the so called infidels.


Still, a very good piece.

On a side note, I'm not sure if I've becoming over-cautious or downright paranoid, but Middle Eastern-looking men with backpacks suddenly appear very conspicuous these days. Recently, one was walking in the parking lot of my favorite grocery store as I was leaving it. I felt embarassment at the knot in my gut that suddenly twisted itself into life.

The terrorists have done far more damage to their own cause than they can possibly imagine.
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Postby Harrison » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:40 pm

I was deeply disappointed when I read that article.

I thought it said all muslims are on fire. I was excited.
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Postby Ganzo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:01 pm

Wrath Child wrote:Maybe he left it out because the Israeli occupation - justified or not - has been responsible for a tremendous amount of innocent Muslim suffering; they deserve to be attacked, he may very well feel.
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Postby Lyion » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:06 pm

He also misses the real problem, the fact mainstream Islam accepts and supports the radical violent elements, despite PR attempts to say how wrong it is.

Until this type of behavior is not privately supported and approved of, Islam will continue to see more and more countries unhappy with Muslims and ultimately sanctioning of it.

The problem isn't the few radical elements, it's the wholehearted support the Islamic regimes givec to these groups with a wink and a nudge while saying the opposite to the Western Countries.
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Postby Ganzo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:49 pm

Untill US stops using Ancient Rome's technique of puting neighboring barbarian clans against eachother but never destroying any of it's barbaric enemies, incase they'll need them later to put up against another clan; this situation will never change. Enemy needs to be put down once and for good, playing "Survivor" with world politics will not end good for us.
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Postby Thon » Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:42 pm

sounds like a final solution
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Postby Ganzo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:55 pm

Not realy, instead of doing half assed attacks with minimum dammage that in the long run kills hundreds of thousands civilians, do one hard hit with scary dammage and in the end kill less cause you scare others
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Postby Tae-Bo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:58 pm

i thought this was going to be about NBA Jam
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Postby Harrison » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:07 pm

D. Duck wrote:i thought this was going to be about NBA Jam


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For once your post made me laugh and not wonder about your mental health.
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Postby Captain Insano » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:46 pm

Ganzo wrote:I like how he conviniently left out Israel from the list of countries that suffered from terrorist attacks



No one cares about the jews honestly. You guys don't believe in jesus and that angers us. :wink:

Moving right along I loved that article. I also think it is valid. I hope the world completely turns on islam and muslims as a whole. That entire religion should just be squashed.

For the life of me I don't know why we haven't blown up all their ancient mosques. It would be a nice start.
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Postby Narrock » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:54 pm

Captain_Insano wrote:
Ganzo wrote:I like how he conviniently left out Israel from the list of countries that suffered from terrorist attacks



No one cares about the jews honestly. You guys don't believe in jesus and that angers us. :wink:

Moving right along I loved that article. I also think it is valid. I hope the world completely turns on islam and muslims as a whole. That entire religion should just be squashed.

For the life of me I don't know why we haven't blown up all their ancient mosques. It would be a nice start.


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Postby Donnel » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:52 pm

Ganzo,

I think Israel was left off because the analogy didn't fit.

Muslims bombing muslims.

Palestinians fighting palestinians.

That, I think is the point he was trying to make: a house divided will not stand.
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Postby Jimmy Durante » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:52 pm

Captain_Insano wrote:
Ganzo wrote:I like how he conviniently left out Israel from the list of countries that suffered from terrorist attacks



No one cares about the jews honestly. You guys don't believe in jesus and that angers us. :wink:


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"I've always wanted to ask you a question," says the man hesitantly.

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"I've always been curious... how many people did you actually kill during that whole Holocaust thing."

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Postby Captain Insano » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:56 pm

Hahaha!
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Postby Ganzo » Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:57 pm

:rofl:
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Postby Diabolik » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:38 am

There's a Middle Eastern restaurant in town called The Jerusalem Cafe that serves a dish called "Chicken on Fire." So maybe it's really a chicken and not the Muslim mind.
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Postby Captain Insano » Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:52 am

I want to light some muslim minds on fire. They are always really hairy and greasy so it shouldn't be very hard.
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