Iran Touts Itself As a Nuclear Power

[Phlegm]

From Associated Press:

(AP) Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed Thursday that Iran won't back away from uranium enrichment and said the world must treat Iran as a nuclear power. the comments were made as Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, arrived in Tehran for talks aimed at defusing tensions over Iran's nuclear program.

"Our answer to those who are angry about Iran achieving the full nuclear fuel cycle is just one phrase. We say: Be angry at us and die of this anger," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"We won't hold talks with anyone about the right of the Iranian nation (to enrich uranium)."

Ahmadinejad declared on Tuesday that Iran had successfully produced enriched uranium for the first time, a key process in what Iran maintains is a peaceful energy program.

Iran's deputy nuclear chief, Mohammad Saeedi, then said Wednesday that Iran intends to move toward large-scale uranium enrichment involving 54,000 centrifuges, signaling the country's resolve to expand a program the United Nations has demanded it halt.

"Today, our situation has changed completely. We are a nuclear country and speak to others from the position of a nuclear country," IRNA quoted the president as saying Thursday.

The United States accuses Tehran of using its civilian nuclear program as a cover to produce nuclear weapons but Tehran says its nuclear program is merely to generate electricity.

The U.N. Security Council has insisted that Iran stop all enrichment activity by April 28.

ElBaradei told reporters after arriving at Tehran airport that he believed the time was "ripe" for a political solution." He said he would try to persuade Iranian authorities to meet international demands for "confidence-building measures, including suspension of uranium enrichment, until outstanding issues are clarified."

Also Thursday, China said it is sending an envoy to Iran and Russia to discuss the dispute over Tehran's nuclear ambitions. Assistant Foreign Minister Cui Tiankai is due to leave on Friday.

"Recently, there were some developments of the Iranian nuclear issue," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao. "We expressed our concern. ... We hope the parties should exercise restraint and not take any actions that lead to further escalation so we can solve the question properly through dialogue and diplomacy."

At the United Nations a day earlier, China expressed strong concern over Iran's announcement that it had successfully enriched uranium and called on Tehran to suspend enrichment. However, both China and Russia have repeated their opposition to any punitive measures against Iran.

On Tuesday, Iran announced it had produced enriched uranium on a small scale for the first time, using 164 centrifuges, at a facility in the central town of Natanz.

Saeedi said using 54,000 centrifuges will be able to produce enough enriched uranium to provide fuel for a 1,000-megawatt nuclear power plant like one Russia is finishing in southern Iran.

In theory, that many centrifuges could be used to develop the material needed for hundreds of nuclear warheads if Iran can perfect the techniques for producing the highly enriched uranium needed. Iran is still thought to be years away from a full-scale program.

The IAEA is due to report to the Security Council on April 28 whether Iran has met its demand for a full halt to uranium enrichment. If Tehran has not complied, the council will consider the next step. The U.S. and Europe are pressing for sanctions, a step Russia and China have so far opposed.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday the Security Council must consider "strong steps" to induce Tehran to change course. Rice also telephoned ElBaradei to ask him to reinforce demands that Iran comply with its nonproliferation requirements when he holds talks in Tehran on Friday.

On Wednesday, Iran's nuclear chief, Gholamreza Aghazadeh, said the United States had no option but to recognize Iran as a nuclear power. But he said Iran was prepared to give the West a share in its enrichment facilities to ease fears that it may seek to make weapons.

"The best way to get out of this issue is for countries that have concern become our partners in Natanz in management, production and technology. This is a very important confidence-building measure," he told state-run television.

[Ginzburgh]

Iran's deputy nuclear chief, Mohammad Saeedi, then said Wednesday that Iran intends to move toward large-scale uranium enrichment involving 54,000 centrifuges, signaling the country's resolve to expand a program the United Nations has demanded it halt.

That's the part that screams "oh btw we're making nuclear weapons".

[mofish]

I definitely dont want to get into another invasion/occupation.

But we need to seriously bomb the fuck out of all their nuclear shit.

[Ginzburgh]

It's not hard to imagine a dark alley meeting going on between iran and the rest of our enemies.

[kaharthemad]

im sure the UN will put a stop to this....LOL I just made a funny.

Let me rephrase...Im sure the UN will ask the US to take care of this for them.

[Narrock]

Arabs always exaggerate their capabilities. It's been a characteristic trait of theirs for years now.

[Ginzburgh]

Ok, so I guess we should just let them make nuclear bombs.

[Narrock]

Ok, so I guess we should just let them make nuclear bombs.

No, I didn't say that did I?

[Ginzburgh]

Arabs always exaggerate their capabilities. It's been a characteristic trait of theirs for years now

That sounds kind of passive to me.

[Narrock]

Arabs always exaggerate their capabilities. It's been a characteristic trait of theirs for years now

That sounds kind of passive to me.

Ok, so you're the type of person who falls into the small segment of the population who needs further clarification/details. Ok I'll rephrase it for you.


Arabs always exaggerate their capabilities. It's been a characteristic trait of theirs for years now. They still should be checked out by the U.N. though.

[Ginzburgh]

They still should be checked out by the U.N. though.

Ok so your "further clarification" was to add this line.

Thanks for the insight.

[Jazendar]

That wasn't implied at the least by your post Mindia~

[Ginzburgh]

Wait a few more minutes, maybe he'll add more.

It's "The MinDia Code".

[Sithos]

Arabs always exaggerate their capabilities. It's been a characteristic trait of theirs for years now.

Oh fuck here we go again!

Book of Mindia Chapter 1 Verse 3

"And Lo the Mindia shall return, and his return will be heralded by generalizations and attacks upon the cultures unbeknowest to he. Yet he speaketh with great disdain against them for the Mindia is wise and all knowing"

"Book of Mindia Chapter 7 Verse 4

"And sufferage shall be your lot in life should thou be of a different nature or belief of the Mindia. Preparest thou to receive manuscripts pertaining to the nature of your folly as thou art deemed lesser in both intellect and manhood should thou differ in views"

Now I dont particulary care for the way these folks are handling this particular situation but it's people like you that foster a continued atmosphere of distrust and hate. Stop with the bullshit generalizations and fucking step up and give direct and to the point reasoning. Thats akin to me saying that anyone who believes in any organized religion is just as squirrley as you. Lets point out instead the governing body or the scientific group and not the people as a whole.

Oh and welcome the fuck back!

[Ginzburgh]

[Narrock]

Arabs always exaggerate their capabilities. It's been a characteristic trait of theirs for years now.

Oh fuck here we go again!

Book of Mindia Chapter 1 Verse 3

"And Lo the Mindia shall return, and his return will be heralded by generalizations and attacks upon the cultures unbeknowest to he. Yet he speaketh with great disdain against them for the Mindia is wise and all knowing"

"Book of Mindia Chapter 7 Verse 4

"And sufferage shall be your lot in life should thou be of a different nature or belief of the Mindia. Preparest thou to receive manuscripts pertaining to the nature of your folly as thou art deemed lesser in both intellect and manhood should thou differ in views"

Now I dont particulary care for the way these folks are handling this particular situation but it's people like you that foster a continued atmosphere of distrust and hate. Stop with the bullshit generalizations and fucking step up and give direct and to the point reasoning. Thats akin to me saying that anyone who believes in any organized religion is just as squirrley as you. Lets point out instead the governing body or the scientific group and not the people as a whole.

Oh and welcome the fuck back!

Ever heard of an Arab named Saddam Houssein? Remember all the smack-talking he used to do and then the U.N. never found anything? That's what I'm talking about.

[Sithos]

It was your government that insisted he had capabilities beyond those that he said he had. Keep trying

[Narrock]

It was your government that insisted he had capabilities beyond those that he said he had. Keep trying

The whole WORLD thought he had WMD's. He boasted and boasted and boasted, but what did it turn up? No WMD's. Saddam's not the only one who does that. Now Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is talking the same smack. They're just asking to be beat down.

[Captain Insano]

This arguement is stupid. They are muslim. Therefore they all deserve to perish in flames and shrapnel.

[Sithos]

The whole world didn't think there were WMD's. There you go generalizing yet again. Get a grip on yourself or are you so rabid that you cant see that? Stop trying to use the governments reason to go to war as an excuse to start another. A reason that was proven to be wrong.

[Narrock]

lol where are you from Sithos?

[Ginzburgh]

Get a grip on yourself or are you so rabid that you cant see that? Stop trying to use the governments reason to go to war as an excuse to start another. A reason that was proven to be wrong

Well, to be fair, I was the one who was stating my concern over Iran's ability to make nuclear weapons while Mindia was reacting in a nonchalant attitude.

But he seems to have flip flopped since then.

RABBIT SEASON, DUCK SEASON, RABBIT SEASON, DUCK SEASON, RABBIT SEASON, RABBIT SEASON FIRE!

[kaharthemad]

He is from france. you know the ones caught in the oil for fucks scandal?

as for the whole situation on Iraq. 47 threats form the UN concerning the destruction of his WMD's whcih as of yet are still not destroyed. WMDs were there (see the 10000+ Kurds found in mass graves). Plus we have Saren Gas canisters found, (2 disabled in 2004 6months after occupation). Plus you have his requests to purchase Uranium from Nigeria as late as 1999.

[Narrock]

Kaharthemad said:

He is from france

That explains everything. I'm not gonna argue with that french pissant anymore.

[Lueyen]

Iran's deputy nuclear chief, Mohammad Saeedi, then said Wednesday that Iran intends to move toward large-scale uranium enrichment involving 54,000 centrifuges, signaling the country's resolve to expand a program the United Nations has demanded it halt.

That's the part that screams "oh btw we're making nuclear weapons".

I think the following screams it even louder.

Our answer to those who are angry about Iran achieving the full nuclear fuel cycle is just one phrase. We say: Be angry at us and die of this anger," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"Today, our situation has changed completely. We are a nuclear country and speak to others from the position of a nuclear country," IRNA quoted the president as saying Thursday.

Veiled threats and assertions that they should be recognized and dealt with as a country with nuclear capability makes me really wonder how they can expect anyone to believe thier assertions that it's all for generating electricity.