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Postby Arlos » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:59 am

You know what, fuck the environment, if humanity is capable of producing people like this, maybe it's better we do wipe ourselves out.

PURCELL, Oklahoma (CNN) -- A 10-year-old Purcell, Oklahoma, girl was the victim of a horrific plan of kidnap, rape, torture and cannibalism, authorities said Saturday.

Investigators late Friday found Jamie Rose Bolin's body in a plastic storage tub in the bedroom closet of 26-year-old Kevin Underwood, said Tim Kuykendall, the district attorney for McClain County.

The medical examiner said the girl, who had been missing since Wednesday, died of asphyxiation and blunt blows to the head, Kuykendall told a news conference Saturday. The district attorney added that her injuries were also consistent with a "serious attempt to cut the head off the body."

Underwood -- who is in custody but has not been formally charged -- and the girl lived in the same apartment complex. He does not have a felony criminal history or known mental illness.

Evidence seized from Underwood's apartment included a decorative dagger authorities say was used to try to decapitate the girl, a hacksaw, a meat tenderizer, barbecue skewers and a wooden cutting board, Kuykendall said.

Also found were a dismantled bicycle under a bed, a mug thought to have been carried by the girl into the apartment, a video of a cable television documentary on serial killers and a computer, Kuykendall said.

Underwood purchased the hacksaw, skewers and meat tenderizer in the months before the girl died, Kuykendall said.

The girl was struck on the head with the cutting board "three to four times," Kuykendall said, and Underwood suffocated her using duct tape and covering her mouth with his hand.

Kuykendall said it was believed the girl screamed "numerous times." It was unclear how her cries apparently went unheard.

"She pled for her life," he said. "The first thing out of her mouth when he first hit her was, 'I'm sorry.' "

After the news conference, Kuykendall said authorities believe she did not die immediately.

An autopsy report is being finalized.
'This was well planned out'

Authorities believe the girl was molested after she had died, Kuykendall told CNN after the news conference.

Her clothes had been removed and placed with her inside the tub, along with a towel to soak up blood, Kuykendall said.

Authorities think she was killed before police were notified that she had disappeared.

"This was well planned out," said said Purcell Police Chief David Tompkins. He added that other individuals, including an woman and a 5-year-old boy, also were targeted and considered.

"But Rose was the one who was selected for this plan," he said.

Police suspect she was selected simply because she walked past Underwood's apartment on Wednesday.

The two were acquainted, authorities said. Underwood had a pet rat that would sit on his shoulder, Tompkins said, and the girl had previously seen and petted it.

The night before her death, she had intended to use a pay phone in the apartment building to order pizza, according to Kuykendall. Underwood had offered his phone, but the girl responded that she would get in trouble if she went into his apartment because she was not allowed to enter strangers' homes, Kuykendall said.

However, she apparently did use his phone to place the order, according to Kuykendall.

The next day, she is believed to have gone into Underwood's apartment voluntarily, Kuykendall said.

"Whether you term that 'lured in' or not, I believe she went into the apartment of her own free will," he said.

Underwood is being held without bail at McClain County jail and is scheduled to appear before a judge Monday to face a charge of first-degree murder. Other charges are also possible, said Kuykendall, who added that he would seek the death penalty.

Underwood did not have an attorney as of Saturday, according to Kuykendall.
'He was very quiet'

Balloons, flowers and a teddy bear have been left outside the apartment building.

"It's very hard to talk to a family about things like this," said Kuykendall, who informed the Bolin family of Underwood's alleged plan.

"I kind of look at it in terms of, would I want to know what happened to my daughter, my child?" he said.

Underwood had lived in the apartment for about a year and a half and, according to Tompkins, and had worked at a grocery store for a year and at a fast food restaurant before that.

FBI investigators first identified Underwood as a person of interest when they stopped him at a roadside checkpoint near the apartment complex, Kuykendall said.

After an interview, Underwood consented to a search of his apartment, during which investigators found the child's body, Kuykendall said. A search warrant was then obtained, he said.

"He was very quiet ... comes from a nice family" and had a close relationship with relatives, Kuykendall told CNN describing Underwood.

"Nothing in his background that we know of would have indicated that he could have done this. He was the guy next door."


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Postby Narrock » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:19 am

Sad... very sad :( I bet the defense attorneys are going to try to make him look like the victim.
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Postby Markarado » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:07 am

Stories like this make me wonder how people can disagree with the death penalty. Even if he has mental issues there's no reason why he should be kept alive.
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Postby Jay » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:18 am

arlos wrote:You know what, fuck the environment, if humanity is capable of producing people like this, maybe it's better we do wipe ourselves out.

PURCELL, Oklahoma (CNN) -- A 10-year-old Purcell, Oklahoma, girl was the victim of a horrific plan of kidnap, rape, torture and cannibalism, authorities said Saturday.

Investigators late Friday found Jamie Rose Bolin's body in a plastic storage tub in the bedroom closet of 26-year-old Kevin Underwood, said Tim Kuykendall, the district attorney for McClain County.

The medical examiner said the girl, who had been missing since Wednesday, died of asphyxiation and blunt blows to the head, Kuykendall told a news conference Saturday. The district attorney added that her injuries were also consistent with a "serious attempt to cut the head off the body."

Underwood -- who is in custody but has not been formally charged -- and the girl lived in the same apartment complex. He does not have a felony criminal history or known mental illness.

Evidence seized from Underwood's apartment included a decorative dagger authorities say was used to try to decapitate the girl, a hacksaw, a meat tenderizer, barbecue skewers and a wooden cutting board, Kuykendall said.

Also found were a dismantled bicycle under a bed, a mug thought to have been carried by the girl into the apartment, a video of a cable television documentary on serial killers and a computer, Kuykendall said.

Underwood purchased the hacksaw, skewers and meat tenderizer in the months before the girl died, Kuykendall said.

The girl was struck on the head with the cutting board "three to four times," Kuykendall said, and Underwood suffocated her using duct tape and covering her mouth with his hand.

Kuykendall said it was believed the girl screamed "numerous times." It was unclear how her cries apparently went unheard.

"She pled for her life," he said. "The first thing out of her mouth when he first hit her was, 'I'm sorry.' "

After the news conference, Kuykendall said authorities believe she did not die immediately.

An autopsy report is being finalized.
'This was well planned out'

Authorities believe the girl was molested after she had died, Kuykendall told CNN after the news conference.

Her clothes had been removed and placed with her inside the tub, along with a towel to soak up blood, Kuykendall said.

Authorities think she was killed before police were notified that she had disappeared.

"This was well planned out," said said Purcell Police Chief David Tompkins. He added that other individuals, including an woman and a 5-year-old boy, also were targeted and considered.

"But Rose was the one who was selected for this plan," he said.

Police suspect she was selected simply because she walked past Underwood's apartment on Wednesday.

The two were acquainted, authorities said. Underwood had a pet rat that would sit on his shoulder, Tompkins said, and the girl had previously seen and petted it.

The night before her death, she had intended to use a pay phone in the apartment building to order pizza, according to Kuykendall. Underwood had offered his phone, but the girl responded that she would get in trouble if she went into his apartment because she was not allowed to enter strangers' homes, Kuykendall said.

However, she apparently did use his phone to place the order, according to Kuykendall.

The next day, she is believed to have gone into Underwood's apartment voluntarily, Kuykendall said.

"Whether you term that 'lured in' or not, I believe she went into the apartment of her own free will," he said.

Underwood is being held without bail at McClain County jail and is scheduled to appear before a judge Monday to face a charge of first-degree murder. Other charges are also possible, said Kuykendall, who added that he would seek the death penalty.

Underwood did not have an attorney as of Saturday, according to Kuykendall.
'He was very quiet'

Balloons, flowers and a teddy bear have been left outside the apartment building.

"It's very hard to talk to a family about things like this," said Kuykendall, who informed the Bolin family of Underwood's alleged plan.

"I kind of look at it in terms of, would I want to know what happened to my daughter, my child?" he said.

Underwood had lived in the apartment for about a year and a half and, according to Tompkins, and had worked at a grocery store for a year and at a fast food restaurant before that.

FBI investigators first identified Underwood as a person of interest when they stopped him at a roadside checkpoint near the apartment complex, Kuykendall said.

After an interview, Underwood consented to a search of his apartment, during which investigators found the child's body, Kuykendall said. A search warrant was then obtained, he said.

"He was very quiet ... comes from a nice family" and had a close relationship with relatives, Kuykendall told CNN describing Underwood.

"Nothing in his background that we know of would have indicated that he could have done this. He was the guy next door."


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Postby Diekan » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:07 am

He lives in Alabama, not OK.

I'm glad this guy isn't in Mass - the judge would probably give him a month of community service.

Yeah, this fucker needs to die a slow and painful death. I'd suggest torturing him for a year or two. Torture him for a while, let him heal, then torture him again... then strap his ass in the chair and Pay Per View it. Making sure NOT to wet his head down and ohh yeah... lets start at low volts and amps and work our way up slowly.
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Postby Minrott » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:08 am

The death penalty is so expensive. Why not ebay the rights for killing him? I bet there's people out there willing to pay millions to end this guy.
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Postby Diekan » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:31 am

Hey now that's a damn good idea! eBay the rights to slaughter this waste of flesh and donate the money to the victims family. Hell, I'd hit the ATM and make a bid.

I want this fucker to suffer though. Maybe they could start of by ebaying torture rights first... then ebay actually drilling a bullet through his head later?
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Postby Gargamellow » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:37 am

I will kill him for free.
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Postby Tikker » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:51 am

I didn't see anything in the story about cannibalism

they kinda tossed in the dude had bought some BBQ stuff in previous months, but no hint that he actually was going to use them

they didn't mention any torture either

headline kinda was kinda "HEY LETS SELL SOME NEWSPAPERS"
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Postby Harrison » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:48 am

Tikker wrote:I didn't see anything in the story about cannibalism

they kinda tossed in the dude had bought some BBQ stuff in previous months, but no hint that he actually was going to use them

they didn't mention any torture either

headline kinda was kinda "HEY LETS SELL SOME NEWSPAPERS"


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Postby Martrae » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:48 am

Happy Easter

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Postby Hatak » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:38 pm

Diekan wrote:He lives in Alabama, not OK.


Who lives in Alabama, not Oklahoma?
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Postby Hatak » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:45 pm

Tikker wrote:I didn't see anything in the story about cannibalism

they kinda tossed in the dude had bought some BBQ stuff in previous months, but no hint that he actually was going to use them

they didn't mention any torture either

headline kinda was kinda "HEY LETS SELL SOME NEWSPAPERS"


I'll link the murderer's blog once I get home that I found after hearing about it. It shows his sick thinking that led up to this horrific crime.

There are two references to cannibalism in what he has entered online. One is found on a wishlist he has on Amazon.com of a book about canniblism. The other is on a profile of his online that says "If you were a cannibal, what would you wear to dinner?". He answered, "The skin of last night's main course."

This is indeed sad. We've heard a lot about it here in the media as I live only 45 miles from Purcell, OK.
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Postby Diekan » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:55 pm

fishhead is in ala
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Postby Hatak » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:06 pm

Diekan wrote:fishhead is in ala


Ah, okay.
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Postby Hatak » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:34 pm

For anyone interested, here is the link to the murderer, Kevin Underwood's blog.

http://futureworldruler.blogspot.com/

If you are interested in reading it, there's some interesting yet disturbing posts in the Sept 2004 archive found there as well as in other archives. His profile there has one of the references to cannibalism that I mentioned before. Also note that his last post was on 4/13/06 at 4:41 PM, Jamie was taken on 4/12/06 at approximately 3:50 PM - A truly sick individual.

He had a profile also on MySpace.com (which is where I found that link to his other blog site) but after they showed it on the Oklahoma City news, it was taken down.
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Postby Yamori » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:19 pm

Markarado wrote:Stories like this make me wonder how people can disagree with the death penalty. Even if he has mental issues there's no reason why he should be kept alive.


The death penalty is a horrible policy - not for mercy towards killers - but for the defense of innocents.

No matter how horrendous it is for a twisted person to murder an innocent - it is twice as horrifying to imagine an innocent person kidnapped, imprisoned, and murdered by large numbers of men who proclaim to exist to defend him from causeless brutality.

Police investigations can be corrupt or lazy. Police can (and have - numerously) pressured people into false confessions. Judges and juries can be far too overzealous, ignorant of the ramifications of technical evidence, and/or blinded by their emotions. Poorer people can't often afford proper legal representation - particularly in complicated cases. And numerous other variables that can make even 'clear' looking cases incorrect in their judgements.

Even in cases where common sense says they are guilty (ie: body found in his apartment) - there is no objective, clear, and concise criteria to determine what is and is not a 'clear' case of guilt. It inevitably falls to vague, relative, and highly interperetable adjectives to determine death sentence criteria. And the problem with such is that vague criteria can and will be used overzealously by some officials. One man's "reasonable doubt" may be strict, while another's will be very loose. All it takes is one reckless judge or jury on a punishin' spree to be responsible for murdering dozens of innocent men in the name of the law (ie: Texas).

Combined with the fact that the appeals process is more expensive than life imprisonment, it simply isn't worth it. To say 'get rid of or lower the number of appeals' would be absolutely insane, for the exact reasons stated above - a good number of cases ARE appealed, preventing innocent people's government sanctioned murders.

That aside, life in prison is far more punishment than the death penalty. Death row inmates are isolated, and hence (relatively) more comfortable than normal inmates. Normal inmates have to deal with the threat of stabbings, beatings, rape, and generally having to deal with utterly violent, impulsive, irrational brutes on a daily basis (with pretty much NO safeguard against such whatsoever) for the rest of their lives.

But at least life imprisonment can be reversed if the sentenced is later found innocent - death can't.
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Postby araby » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:23 pm

t 5:52 PM, Anonymous said...

This guy was a poster at the somethingawful.com forums, where people like to joke about doing sick stuff like this, and some of the other posters there helped convince him to go ahead and kill and eat that girl. His avatar was drawn by one of the contributors of the site. They deleted the original thread, but they have a huge discussion of it going on in a thread created after news came out.

Here is a link to the thread in question. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1852770&perpage=40&pagenumber=1


I read this post also, from his blog, ack
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Postby Diekan » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:31 pm

Yamori wrote:
Markarado wrote:Stories like this make me wonder how people can disagree with the death penalty. Even if he has mental issues there's no reason why he should be kept alive.


The death penalty is a horrible policy - not for mercy towards killers - but for the defense of innocents.

No matter how horrendous it is for a twisted person to murder an innocent - it is twice as horrifying to imagine an innocent person kidnapped, imprisoned, and murdered by large numbers of men who proclaim to exist to defend him from causeless brutality.

Police investigations can be corrupt or lazy. Police can (and have - numerously) pressured people into false confessions. Judges and juries can be far too overzealous, ignorant of the ramifications of technical evidence, and/or blinded by their emotions. Poorer people can't often afford proper legal representation - particularly in complicated cases. And numerous other variables that can make even 'clear' looking cases incorrect in their judgements.

Even in cases where common sense says they are guilty (ie: body found in his apartment) - there is no objective, clear, and concise criteria to determine what is and is not a 'clear' case of guilt. It inevitably falls to vague, relative, and highly interperetable adjectives to determine death sentence criteria. And the problem with such is that vague criteria can and will be used overzealously by some officials. One man's "reasonable doubt" may be strict, while another's will be very loose. All it takes is one reckless judge or jury on a punishin' spree to be responsible for murdering dozens of innocent men in the name of the law (ie: Texas).

Combined with the fact that the appeals process is more expensive than life imprisonment, it simply isn't worth it. To say 'get rid of or lower the number of appeals' would be absolutely insane, for the exact reasons stated above - a good number of cases ARE appealed, preventing innocent people's government sanctioned murders.

That aside, life in prison is far more punishment than the death penalty. Death row inmates are isolated, and hence (relatively) more comfortable than normal inmates. Normal inmates have to deal with the threat of stabbings, beatings, rape, and generally having to deal with utterly violent, impulsive, irrational brutes on a daily basis (with pretty much NO safeguard against such whatsoever) for the rest of their lives.

But at least life imprisonment can be reversed if the sentenced is later found innocent - death can't.



Naw... he needs to fry after being tortured.
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Postby 10sun » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:07 pm

*shrug* I honestly don't care that much.
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Postby Harrison » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:10 pm

...are you that far gone that little children dying horrible deaths is somehow normal to you?

I elect myself the avatar of death to these people. Give me a dull knife and a bat, I'll make them bleed.
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Postby Griever » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:40 pm

I can now sleep soundly knowing Harrison will protect the children of America!
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Postby araby » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:53 pm

I could support the death penalty in cases where the evidence is 100% conclusive of guilt and/or an admission.
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Postby Diekan » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:03 pm

Look people. Innocent people die all the time under circumstances that may have otherwise been avoided.

An innocent person dies at the hands of a drunk driver - yet I don't see you all up in arms to do really do anything about it. Could this have been avoided? Yes, and if you don’t see how, I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to you.

An innocent person dies in the crossfire of a police shootout - yet I don't see you screaming for the disbandment of police forces. This too could have been avoided if the police did this, or did that…

An innocent child gets mauled by a pitbull – yet you don’t come here wanting the breed outlawed. Maybe if the owner kept the dog under “lock and keyâ€
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Postby Harrison » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:19 pm

Griever wrote:I can now sleep soundly knowing Harrison will protect the children of America!
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Will, but am not allowed to...

I will assure you, I am a lot more effective than you would ever be.
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