Good riddance, but it should have happened 20 years ago

[Ganzo]

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=e8b6e7d5b57fcecf

WTF we had to pay for 20 years to decide that he needs to die

[Zanchief]

Page didn't load, but I'm guessing it's the Tookie Williams thing.

10$ says someone cries racism over this one.

[DangerPaul]

Arnold said, "Asta lavista baby!"

What is sad is they are calling Arnold a killer in Europe for not declaring clemency.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/ap_ ... xecution_1

Hey Tookie, remember when I said I would kill you last? Yeah, thats right Mason, you did. I lied...

Bonus points if you know the quote.

[Mop]

fucking racism.



*you owe ganzo 10 dollars, and none of the canadian dollars!

[Eziekial]

He will not be back.

[kaharthemad]

Arnold said, "Asta lavista baby!"

What is sad is they are calling Arnold a killer in Europe for not declaring clemency.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/ap_ ... xecution_1

Hey Tookie, remember when I said I would kill you last? Yeah, thats right Mason, you did. I lied...

Bonus points if you know the quote.

Commando

[Martrae]

I don't know...can I have bonus points anyway?

[labbats]

Arnold said, "Asta lavista baby!"

What is sad is they are calling Arnold a killer in Europe for not declaring clemency.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/ap_ ... xecution_1

Hey Tookie, remember when I said I would kill you last? Yeah, thats right Mason, you did. I lied...

Bonus points if you know the quote.

Commando


Starring a fat guy as an old cronie of Arnold's in elite special forces. Yeah, right... that's about as likely as getting killed by a giant pipe through your chest.

[Eziekial]

Giant pipe through the chest is a leading cause of death in some nations.

[Zanchief]

He's letting off some steam.

[kaharthemad]

As for Tookie dying...Supposedly he found Jesus.

Now he gets to meet him.

[Tacks]

Worst part about this entire situation is that it could be avoided. The 20 years on death row thing is bullshit. This piece of shit should never have been given the opportunity to "find Jesus" or whatever he did. He should have died 19 years ago, right after being convicted.

[labbats]

Worst part about this entire situation is that it could be avoided. The 20 years on death row thing is bullshit. This piece of shit should never have been given the opportunity to "find Jesus" or whatever he did. He should have died 19 years ago, right after being convicted.

I disagree with your statement and demand a retrial.

[The Kizzy]

According to the law persons convcted and put on death row are entitled to many appeals. If I remember correctly, the evidence was pretty cut and dry in this case. He was a multiple murderer, and got what he deserved. I don't care how many children's books he wrote, it won't make up for what he did in the past.

[Zanchief]

Funny thing is, had he just admitted it, he probably wouldn't have been killed. Awesome lawyers he has.

[kaharthemad]

thing is he had a deal with the DA...name the names of some of the other Crips for a reduced sentence. at anytime had he puked up a few names he would have missed riding ole sparky.

I agree with Taxx...the evidence on this prick was so incontrovertable he should have been fried 1 month after. Hell the jury to this day has the fastest return time...15 minutes.

[Gypsiyee]

he didn't get what he deserved.. he died peacefully

he deserved a smidge worse ><

[labbats]

Do the people he killed get to appeal that?

NEXT

[Ouchyfish]

He got a last meal and a chance to pray before he died.

Shame the folks he killed couldn't have had that chance.


They can cry racism all they like. There are still more whites executed and more whites on death row out there. (According to the radio news anyways.)

It's only racism when niggers are forced to obey the fucking law or suffer the consequences.

[Captain Insano]

Oh how terrible. Nigger gangbanger gets fucking killed. Huge loss there...How will society go on?

I'm actually totally against the death penalty... I think prison should be like fucking slavery...

Stick GPS anklets on every last prisoner that explode if you attempt to remove them... Then make every last shitbrick fucking dig ditches and farm tobacco 14 hours a day. Make these assholes pay for themselves. Lol... black people working for a living, man that would be something to see.

[kaharthemad]

what ever happen to chain gang road crews? Thats why I threw the aluminum cans out the windows as well as my cigarette butts. so the cons would have something to do.

Frankly Ralf is right put on GPS devices on them and make them pave roads in the state they are convicted in...go go gadget free labor!!

Give a nice electircal charge to it...something about the power of a taser...when they smart off you hit him with enough volts to make him wet his pants.

Make it so the device sends a constant charge of electricity if the get too far away from the buss they are attached to. That way there will be no chance they will try and take over the guards...if the guard dies or is incapped the amps are boosted to say 400. That should cook them like a TV Dinner.

[kaharthemad]

an interesting article I found on one of the columnist boards I read.

Get rid of executive clemency
Dec 14, 2005
by Ben Shapiro ( bio | archive | contact )

Monday afternoon, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California refused to grant clemency to death-row inmate Stanley Tookie Williams. "Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger queried. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption." Schwarzenegger also wrote that the facts of the case could not justify a grant of clemency.

Schwarzenegger made the right move. Williams, who co-founded the brutal Crips gang in 1971, murdered four people in 1979, including a father, mother and daughter working at a motel. He was convicted by a jury of his peers in 1981 and has spent the last two decades in jail awaiting execution. He has never admitted culpability for the slayings of four innocents, and he has exhausted the appeals system. Due process of law has undoubtedly taken place here -- far more than due process, in fact.

Every time a death-row inmate is executed, there are those who claim that he or she is innocent. For the most prominent inmates, movements begin to save them. The usual pressure point for such movements is the executive of the state involved. In California, the governor is empowered by the state constitution to "grant a reprieve, pardon, and commutation, after sentence, except in case of impeachment," subject to certain conditions. On the federal level, the president is empowered to grant pardons by Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution.

A simple question must be asked: Why? Why should a prisoner, granted due process of law, be given the opportunity to plead his case before a political actor? If our system of law is designed to be impartial, why make it openly political by granting interest groups the opportunity to lobby an executive who might be beholden to them? Would Schwarzenegger have hesitated about signing off on the execution of a white man convicted of killing a black family? Would he have pondered the ins and outs of a criminal conviction if Hollywood stars like Jamie Foxx and cultural figures like Sister Helen Prejean had not stepped forward to defend Tookie? Would Schwarzenegger have glanced at the clemency petition without the glare of the media spotlight?

Engraved on the Supreme Court building facade is the phrase "Equal justice under law." But is it truly equal justice when some -- the most famous, the most controversial -- receive the actual benefit of executive clemency while others do not? And is it equal justice when the people of California or the people of the United States allow a convict due process, only to see their process overturned by a single pen stroke?

A brief look at historic clemencies demonstrates that granting executives the power to overrule juries and the criminal justice system means spitting in the eye of the American people:

President Gerald Ford pardons former President Richard Nixon. On Sept. 8, 1974, just one month after Nixon's resignation from the presidency, Ford proclaimed that a trial would "cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States." Would Nixon have received a pardon had he not been president? Would President Jimmy Carter have considered granting Nixon a pardon? To answer no means admitting an inherent inequity in our justice system.

President William Jefferson Clinton pardons Marc Rich. Just before his exit from office, Clinton pardoned Rich, whose ex-wife was a high-ranking Democratic Party fundraiser who had donated large sums to Sen. Hillary Clinton's election campaign during the 2000 cycle. Even then-Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle questioned the pardon, calling it "inappropriate."

Gov. Mark Warner (D-Va.) commutes the death sentence of convicted murderer Robin Lovitt. Lovitt, who stabbed Clayton Dicks to death with a scissors in 1988, saw his death sentence become a life sentence after Warner, who has presidential aspirations, sought to avoid rubberstamping the 1,000th execution in the United States since the re-institution of the death penalty in 1977. Were Lovitt number 999, he would likely be dead right now. Were he innocent, Warner should have pardoned him, not commuted his sentence.

Our justice system is not infallible. Juries sometimes err (see Simpson, O.J.). Evidence is sometimes lost. Undoubtedly, once in a blue moon, our appellate system grants sanction to sentences for the wrongfully convicted. But the answer is not granting one person -- one very politically motivated person -- the power to abrogate the law.


Copright © 2005 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

I think it ties in rather well with this whole topic.

[Yamori]

I FEEL ANGER ABOUT THIS ISSUE


YOU CAN SEE HOW ANGRY I AM BECAUSE I BOLDED IT AND PUT IT IN ALL CAPS

[Adivina]

Even if he was innocent of the 4 murders he was convicted of (which evidence points overwhelmingly to guilty anyway), and even if he never actually harmed or murdered anyone himself, as such a prominent figure in the Crips he has most definetly influenced others to commit murder and other such crimes. I look at this as being similar to Charlie Manson, who supposedly never murdered anyone himself, definetly led others to murder people.

[Ouchyfish]

Charlie and his gang should be dead right now, that is after all the sentence they were given before the pinkos did away with it.

Here's my beef about Charlie: How is it that you are sentenced to die, have the death penalty outlawed then somehow get parole hearings? If you were sentenced to die and by some miracle the death penalty gets done away with, shouldn't you be now sentenced to life without parole?

WTF?