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by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:39 pm

WASHINGTON - The Senate rejected a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage by a wide margin Wednesday, delivering a stinging defeat to President Bush and other Republicans who hope the issue will rally GOP voters for the November elections.

The senators' vote was 49-48 to limit debate and bring the amendment to a yes-or-no decision. That was 11 short of the 60 needed, killing the measure in the Senate for this year.

Bush suggested the ban was proper and its time would still come. He said, "Our nation's founders set a high bar for amending our Constitution and history has shown us that it can take several tries before an amendment builds the two-thirds support it needs in both houses of Congress."

Democrats suggested it was all about conservative politics.

"Why is it when Republicans are all for reducing the federal government's impact on people's lives until it comes to these stinging litmus test issues, whether gay marriage or end of life they suddenly want the federal government to intervene?" asked Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif. "It makes no sense other than throwing red meat to a certain constituency."

:cry:

Everyone should wear black tomorrow for this outrage. And OMG I can't stand Dykanne Feinswein.

by **Gidan** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:43 pm

Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

The fact that this was even considered as an amendment shows that we have some serious problems in our gov't.

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:44 pm

gidan wrote:Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

It makes a mockery out of the sacred institution of marriage. Fudgepackers should just keep to themselves and STFU. Like I already said many, many times before. I'm all for "civil unions" between the polesmokers, but ixnay on the marriage.

by **Gidan** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:46 pm

And who if forcing churches to perform same sex marriage?

This is the US Constitution. Marriage doesn't belong there, ITS A RELIGIOUS ISSUE.

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:47 pm

gidan wrote:This is the US Constitution. Marriage doesn't belong there, ITS A RELIGIOUS ISSUE.

I'm all for preserving Christianity and Christian morals in the public sector.

by **Mop** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:48 pm

What say you about 2 gay ppl living together for 20 years keeping to themselves their families disowned them - one gets in a horrid accident and dies.

Family then takes their estate leaving the other gay man or woman with nothing even tho they were together for 20 years?

by **Gidan** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:49 pm

Narrock wrote:
gidan wrote:This is the US Constitution. Marriage doesn't belong there, ITS A RELIGIOUS ISSUE.

I'm all for preserving Christianity and Christian morals in the public sector.

Then do it in your churches. Stay out of the Gov't. Religion does not belong there.

by **Arlos** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:49 pm

Bush & Co knew DAMN well going into this that there was no way in hell they had even close to the 2/3 votes necessary for this to pass. It was introduced PURELY as political grandstanding to try and gain points with certain part of the christian right constituency. Notice the only OTHER time Bush ever mentioned it was shortly before elections 2 years ago. Entire rest of the time, never brought up. Right before elections, boom, suddenly an issue.

-Arlos

by **Martrae** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:52 pm

I can't stand what's-her-face either but an amendment is stupid and unnecessary.

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:54 pm

Mop wrote:What say you about 2 gay ppl living together for 20 years keeping to themselves their families disowned them - one gets in a horrid accident and dies.

Family then takes their estate leaving the other gay man or woman with nothing even tho they were together for 20 years?

I'm all for gays getting the same rights as hetero married couples.

by **Mop** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:55 pm

but they are not given those rights in alot of states outside of marriage.

by **Mop** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:56 pm

*edit * If this goes through they are more fucked and good luck getting them equal rights. Marriage is more of a State function at this point anyways

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:57 pm

Mop wrote:but they are not given those rights in alot of states outside of marriage.

Well, that sucks for them then. I was just letting you know where I stood on the issue, and why.

by **Jay** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:58 pm

Narrock wrote:
gidan wrote:Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

It makes a mockery out of the sacred institution of marriage. Fudgepackers should just keep to themselves and STFU. Like I already said many, many times before. I'm all for "civil unions" between the polesmokers, but ixnay on the marriage.

Funny how a divorcee talks up the sacred institution of marriage. Don't forget that you broke your promise to god when you finalized that divorce.

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:01 pm

Jay wrote:
Narrock wrote:
gidan wrote:Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

It makes a mockery out of the sacred institution of marriage. Fudgepackers should just keep to themselves and STFU. Like I already said many, many times before. I'm all for "civil unions" between the polesmokers, but ixnay on the marriage.

Funny how a divorcee talks up the sacred institution of marriage. Don't forget that you broke your promise to god when you finalized that divorce.

My divorce was completely acceptable by God, because she cheated on me. Nice try though, helmet-breath.

:hiphop:

by **Gidan** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:02 pm

And you didn't stone her?

by **Jay** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:05 pm

Narrock wrote:
Jay wrote:
Narrock wrote:
gidan wrote:Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

It makes a mockery out of the sacred institution of marriage. Fudgepackers should just keep to themselves and STFU. Like I already said many, many times before. I'm all for "civil unions" between the polesmokers, but ixnay on the marriage.

Funny how a divorcee talks up the sacred institution of marriage. Don't forget that you broke your promise to god when you finalized that divorce.

My divorce was completely acceptable by God, because she cheated on me. Nice try though, helmet-breath.

I ABSOLUTELY could NOT imagine why!

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:09 pm

Jay wrote:
Narrock wrote:
Jay wrote:
Narrock wrote:
gidan wrote:Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

It makes a mockery out of the sacred institution of marriage. Fudgepackers should just keep to themselves and STFU. Like I already said many, many times before. I'm all for "civil unions" between the polesmokers, but ixnay on the marriage.

Funny how a divorcee talks up the sacred institution of marriage. Don't forget that you broke your promise to god when you finalized that divorce.

My divorce was completely acceptable by God, because she cheated on me. Nice try though, helmet-breath.

I ABSOLUTELY could NOT imagine why!

Maybe if you get a girlfriend or a wife someday you might understand.

OH SNAP

by **Mop** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:09 pm

you dont want gay ppl marreid, but you want them to have the same rights?

it confuses me. Marriage is now a state function (govt function ) you could argue that its still religious and you would be right on many aspects, but - you are in a legal contract ( god doesnt take you to court so to speak ) Religious and unreligious ppl are married and different ethnicities and religons practice marriage.

So for you its fine to say you dont want gays married, but that is your religious belief - other religions or sects , and those that dont belive in god ( liberals JK ) may find it acceptable.

My point being is to base anything in a country that is a melting pot based on one religious point of view is close minded ( imo ) You dont have to marry a gay person as you are strait and it goes against your beliefs. But until our Govt. decides to give minority groups ( gays in this case ) the same rights as humans they deserve regaurdless of who they are fucking

Anyways I could care less who a gay person marries or who you marry imo as long as it makes you happy and that person inspires you to be a better person. But until I see the govt reaching out to give gays the same rights as a married couple and remain unmarried then I am opposed to the entire idea.

And Btw - seriously with all the problems in the US could we focus on something that matters, immigration ( illegal ) jobs for US citizens, health care, outragouse gas prices, violent crimes, .... this is fucking bottom of the barrel shit that maybe our govt could focus on off the top of my head

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:10 pm

gidan wrote:And you didn't stone her?

I felt like it, actually. But she wasn't worth going to jail over.

by **Mop** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:10 pm

god my spelling is horrid sorry in a shitty AQ 40 raid.

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:15 pm

Yeah, it's always a good thing to be chatting on message boards while raiding simultaneously.

by **Mop** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:16 pm

Meh you raid with us. were gunna wipe if im paying attention or not =P

by **Narrock** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:21 pm

Mop wrote:Meh you raid with us. were gunna wipe if im paying attention or not =P

LOLz

by **Jay** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:02 pm

Narrock wrote:
Jay wrote:
Narrock wrote:
Jay wrote:
Narrock wrote:
gidan wrote:Again, gay marraige hurts you how?

It makes a mockery out of the sacred institution of marriage. Fudgepackers should just keep to themselves and STFU. Like I already said many, many times before. I'm all for "civil unions" between the polesmokers, but ixnay on the marriage.

Funny how a divorcee talks up the sacred institution of marriage. Don't forget that you broke your promise to god when you finalized that divorce.

My divorce was completely acceptable by God, because she cheated on me. Nice try though, helmet-breath.

I ABSOLUTELY could NOT imagine why!

Maybe if you get a girlfriend or a wife someday you might understand.

OH SNAP

Why when I can just bang yours and make you divorce her. OH SNAP.

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