New postal law lets Bush peek through your mail

[Phlegm]

http://www.nydailynews.com/01-04-2007/n ... 8789c.html

President Bush has quietly claimed sweeping new powers to open Americans' mail without a judge's warrant, the Daily News has learned.

He's already got phone and electronic communications, now snail mails.

[Narrock]

The postal inspector can open any piece of mail or package he wants to anyway. They have that right.

[Evermore]

The postal inspector can open any piece of mail or package he wants to anyway. They have that right.

Would you please post a link where it says that? I want to read it. It was always my impression that anyone opening mail other then the addressee was committing a felony.

[Lueyen]

The pertinent text from the signing statement:

The executive branch shall construe subsection 404(c) of title 39, as enacted by subsection 1010(e) of the Act, which provides for opening of an item of a class of mail otherwise sealed against inspection, in a manner consistent, to the maximum extent permissible, with the need to conduct searches in exigent circumstances, such as to protect human life and safety against hazardous materials, and the need for physical searches specifically authorized by law for foreign intelligence collection.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/12/20061220-6.html

[Evermore]

sorry i should have been more clear. i was talking about what mindia said, not the new law.

[araby]

On talk radio the other day the story was that the government is working on tagging cash money with sensors in order to monitor it's transactions to catch drug dealers/users. basically the receivers are all over the place and they can track the money wherever it goes, or doesn't go I suppose.

same thing with clothing-they are putting chips in the collars of clothing, or other places I guess. the idea they used as an example, is that if joe blow purchases the shirt from dillard's and then the same shirt is used in robbing the bank down the street, they know where to go. if the man who purchased the shirt gave it to Goodwill a year ago, and someone else was wearing it during the robbery, you're out of the clear as long as you have an air-tight lullaby.

i can't believe that they are actually doing this. implanting devices in our money/clothing to monitor our patterns/places we shop/drug spending habits. freedom my ass. this shit is out of control.

[Zanchief]

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[Evermore]

ill cut them out

[Lueyen]

sorry i should have been more clear. i was talking about what mindia said, not the new law.

Yea I posted just for informational purposes, not responding to what you were asking for per say but it may spread some light on things regardless. As far as postal inspectors being able to open mail, I'm pretty sure they could already do so in exigent circumstances (ie if a package is leaking a toxic material ect).

I haven't researched it fully, but I suspect that the coclusions of infringment of privacy stem from the very last part of the statement, not the part talking about endangered human life or hazardous materials... which is I believe what Mindia's statement applies too.

[Martrae]

On talk radio the other day the story was that the government is working on tagging cash money with sensors in order to monitor it's transactions to catch drug dealers/users. basically the receivers are all over the place and they can track the money wherever it goes, or doesn't go I suppose.

same thing with clothing-they are putting chips in the collars of clothing, or other places I guess. the idea they used as an example, is that if joe blow purchases the shirt from dillard's and then the same shirt is used in robbing the bank down the street, they know where to go. if the man who purchased the shirt gave it to Goodwill a year ago, and someone else was wearing it during the robbery, you're out of the clear as long as you have an air-tight lullaby.

i can't believe that they are actually doing this. implanting devices in our money/clothing to monitor our patterns/places we shop/drug spending habits. freedom my ass. this shit is out of control.

What shit programs are you listening to? They wouldn't do that because it would be impossible to keep track of it all.

[araby]

On talk radio the other day the story was that the government is working on tagging cash money with sensors in order to monitor it's transactions to catch drug dealers/users. basically the receivers are all over the place and they can track the money wherever it goes, or doesn't go I suppose.

same thing with clothing-they are putting chips in the collars of clothing, or other places I guess. the idea they used as an example, is that if joe blow purchases the shirt from dillard's and then the same shirt is used in robbing the bank down the street, they know where to go. if the man who purchased the shirt gave it to Goodwill a year ago, and someone else was wearing it during the robbery, you're out of the clear as long as you have an air-tight lullaby.

i can't believe that they are actually doing this. implanting devices in our money/clothing to monitor our patterns/places we shop/drug spending habits. freedom my ass. this shit is out of control.

What shit programs are you listening to? They wouldn't do that because it would be impossible to keep track of it all.

you know, they also said that night was going to be 27 degrees here, and it wasn't. it ended up being like 60.

seriously though, they talked about it for 20 minutes, I dont' know what show it was. I'll look it up. they had an explanation for it all.

[Scatillac]

On talk radio the other day the story was that the government is working on tagging cash money with sensors in order to monitor it's transactions to catch drug dealers/users. basically the receivers are all over the place and they can track the money wherever it goes, or doesn't go I suppose.

same thing with clothing-they are putting chips in the collars of clothing, or other places I guess. the idea they used as an example, is that if joe blow purchases the shirt from dillard's and then the same shirt is used in robbing the bank down the street, they know where to go. if the man who purchased the shirt gave it to Goodwill a year ago, and someone else was wearing it during the robbery, you're out of the clear as long as you have an air-tight lullaby.

i can't believe that they are actually doing this. implanting devices in our money/clothing to monitor our patterns/places we shop/drug spending habits. freedom my ass. this shit is out of control.

you wont have to worry about it unless your doing something bad. face it, the government is the new eye in the sky. See what happens when people stop believing in god? Face it, we are all fucking stupid. We Deserve it. Consider it "god is watching you, so dont fuck up!"

[Zanchief]

Face it.

[Harrison]

Did the guy have a tin foil hat on?

[Narrock]

sorry i should have been more clear. i was talking about what mindia said, not the new law.

Yea I posted just for informational purposes, not responding to what you were asking for per say but it may spread some light on things regardless. As far as postal inspectors being able to open mail, I'm pretty sure they could already do so in exigent circumstances (ie if a package is leaking a toxic material ect).

I haven't researched it fully, but I suspect that the coclusions of infringment of privacy stem from the very last part of the statement, not the part talking about endangered human life or hazardous materials... which is I believe what Mindia's statement applies too.

The postal inspector can intercept and open any package or mail that looks suspicious to them (when it's at a postal facility), whether it's "leaking" or not. I'm surprised some people don't know that.

[kinghooter00]

I've got a tracking device in my skull from an alien abduction... its the size of a grain of rice.
They are with me always....

[Lueyen]

I've got a tracking device in my skull from an alien abduction... its the size of a grain of rice.
They are with me always....

That explains a lot.

[Darcler]

I've got a tracking device in my skull from an alien abduction... its the size of a grain of rice.
They are with me always....

First time this guy has made me laugh, and I'm not sure why it's even that funny.

[Narrock]

I've got a tracking device in my skull from an alien abduction... its the size of a grain of rice.
They are with me always....

Are you also a "Worker in the Light?" Join the few, the proud, the illuminati. Aliens are among us... transcending our level of technological sophistication.

[10sun]

I've got a tracking device in my skull from an alien abduction... its the size of a grain of rice.
They are with me always....

Are you also a "Worker in the Light?" Join the few, the proud, the illuminati. Aliens are among us... transcending our level of technological sophistication.

Its the motherfucking Lizard People I'm TELLING YOU!

[Narrock]

I don't know about lizard people, but the grays...

[10sun]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid

[Narrock]

[Arlos]

Conspiracy theorist David Icke claims that reptilian humanoids are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. He contends that most of our world's leaders, from George W. Bush to members of the British royal family, are in fact seven-foot tall, blood-drinking reptilians.

That explains everything!

-Arlos

[kinghooter00]

shhhhh.... they're listening.