Why is UC so damn expensive now compared to before?

[Lyion]

The answer is here.

Check out these salaries.. Check the link, and see how many vastly overpaid ding dongs there are in college. No wonder its such an MLM scam... and my degree is from a UC School....

Name/Title Campus Salary Total Pay
Jeff Tedford
Head Coach - Athletics UC Berkeley $152,590 $1,562,453
Philip E. Leboit
Professor of Clinical... UC San Francisco $91,306 $1,516,451
Ronald W. Busuttil
Professor UC Los Angeles $246,415 $1,507,289
Timothy H. Mccalmont
Professor of Clinical... UC San Francisco $78,496 $1,502,671
Benjamin Clark Howland
Coach - Athletics UC Los Angeles $150,000 $1,020,000
Tom R. Karl
Professor UC San Francisco $90,753 $906,508
Jan Paul Muizelaar
Professor UC Davis $116,600 $857,054
Ben Braun
Head Coach - Athletics UC Berkeley $147,500 $847,333
Kee D. Kim
Assistant Professor UC Davis $63,200 $776,943
Robert N. Weinreb
Professor UC San Diego $129,883 $732,689
Khalil M. Tabsh
Hs. Clinical Professor UC Los Angeles $139,584 $720,000
Dieter R. Enzmann
Professor UC Los Angeles $208,574 $717,737
Stuart W. Jamieson
Professor UC San Diego $163,584 $708,063
Gary L. Gitnick
Professor UC Los Angeles $205,400 $650,000
Chris E. Freise
Associate Professor in Residence UC San Francisco $69,825 $638,826
Joseph Caprioli
Professor in Residence UC Los Angeles $193,217 $634,709
Karl Dorrell
Head Coach - Athletics UC Los Angeles $150,000 $615,000
Michael T. Lawton
Associate Professor in Residence UC San Francisco $39,337 $610,551
Donald P. Becker
Professor UC Los Angeles $335,005 $600,881
Fernando Vinuela
Professor UC Los Angeles $245,385 $600,000
Stanley B. Prusiner
Professor UC San Francisco $54,737 $598,750
Baruch D. Kuppermann
Associate Professor UC Irvine $69,806 $598,157
Merrill E. Gershwin
Professor UC Davis $156,400 $598,139
David B. Hoyt
Professor UC San Diego $131,128 $596,827
Abdool Rahim Moossa
Professor UC San Diego $169,725 $595,752
Abbas Ardehali
Associate Professor UC Los Angeles $119,680 $581,053
David J. Schanzlin
Professor of Clinical... UC San Diego $116,599 $580,680
Adam Greenspan
N/A UC Davis $63,250 $569,451
Peter R. Carroll
Professor UC San Francisco $98,982 $566,093
Shlomo Raz
Professor UC Los Angeles $208,635 $564,402
David Jablons
Professor in Residence UC San Francisco $70,538 $561,155
John P. Roberts
Professor UC San Francisco $106,616 $559,554
Stuart I. Brown
Professor UC San Diego $137,011 $554,509
Mark E. Linskey
Associate Professor UC Irvine $73,788 $550,084
Mitchell R. Creem
Director UC Los Angeles $340,201 $545,150
John Stuart Nelson
Professor UC Irvine $99,005 $544,657
David A. Kessler
Dean (School/College) UC San Francisco $500,000 $540,250
Gerald S. Levey
Dean (School/College) UC Los Angeles $321,500 $537,416
Michael H. Schill
Dean (School/College) UC Los Angeles $265,833 $535,833
Peter C. Whybrow
Professor UC Los Angeles $258,500 $534,932
Alan M. Fogelman
Professor UC Los Angeles $242,038 $533,211
Edward Warren Holmes
Dean (School/College) UC San Diego $310,600 $531,227
Haile T. Debas
Professor UC San Francisco $160,113 $530,100
Philip J. Disaia
Professor UC Irvine $132,938 $528,067
William G. Bradley Jr
Professor UC San Diego $116,594 $527,871
David L. Callender
Director UC Los Angeles $508,042 $522,027
M.R.C. Greenwood
Provost and Senior Vice President of Academic Affairs UC President's Office $380,000 $520,069
John Mazziotta
Professor UC Los Angeles $191,655 $517,060
Richard J. Liekweg
Director UC San Diego $433,326 $516,807
Mitchel S. Berger
Professor UC San Francisco $107,414 $513,785

[Arlos]

Consider, however, that an awful lot of those professors are teaching med school or other highly advanced technical courses, and could probably make easily double, if not 5x as much were they to go to work in private industry. They might even be under a lot more pressure in academia, as there is a serious "publish or perish" pressure among all faculty at big universities.

For example, look at the very last guy, "Mitchel S. Berger" at UC SF. I don't know with absolute certainty that he's teaching med school, but that's 95% of what UC SF does, is med school and medical research, it's completely different than most other UC campuses. A salary of 107k is small beans for a MD, which is what he most likely is to be a professor there. Further looking at UCSF, you have listed a guy there, "Stanley B. Prusiner" who is making 54k. Now, I dunno about the rest of the country, but 54k here is just barely above entry level. Hell, I made nearly that much at the first Network Engineering job I ever had, which I got with 0 experience as a network engineer, little knowledge, and no degree. For you to list 54k as some kind of outrageous salary, at least for this area, is absolutely ludicrous.

Yes, some are athletics coaches, but compare the salaries of some of those to the salaries that places like FSU, Miami, Nebraska, etc. pay their coaches. Lastly, consider how few people there are on that list, compared to how many total professors there are in the UC system, and we're talking a VERY small percentage here.

Now, if you have a beef with some of the funds the directors get paid, that I can understand far better. Again though, playing devils advocate, some of those positions are of an equivalent level to the CEO of a large corporation, and employs much the same skill-set in many ways. So, I'm not COMPLETELY shocked at the salaries.

-Arlos

[Tae-Bo]

i dont see anything wrong with professors being highly paid tbqh

[Diekan]

Neither do I. Look at how many NFL players that can hardly form a complete sentence being paid millions upon millions. If you want the tickets, you'll buy them. If you want the education, you'll pay the tuition.

[Diekan]

By the way... the fact tha tuition is going up is a GOOD thing. It's getting to the point now where a 4-year degree is about as common as a damn high school diploma - completely saturating the job markets. The less people who have degrees the more money those of us who have one can make. The more people who have degrees the lower wages go. To many fucking people in school as is.

[Jay]

By the way... the fact tha tuition is going up is a GOOD thing. It's getting to the point now where a 4-year degree is about as common as a damn high school diploma - completely saturating the job markets. The less people who have degrees the more money those of us who have one can make. The more people who have degrees the lower wages go. To many fucking people in school as is.

Wow I agree.

[Ouchyfish]

By the way... the fact tha tuition is going up is a GOOD thing. It's getting to the point now where a 4-year degree is about as common as a damn high school diploma - completely saturating the job markets. The less people who have degrees the more money those of us who have one can make. The more people who have degrees the lower wages go. To many fucking people in school as is.

Wow I agree.

So nevermind letting the smartest kids in, let's limit it to the richest?

[Gypsiyee]

By the way... the fact tha tuition is going up is a GOOD thing. It's getting to the point now where a 4-year degree is about as common as a damn high school diploma - completely saturating the job markets. The less people who have degrees the more money those of us who have one can make. The more people who have degrees the lower wages go. To many fucking people in school as is.

Wow I agree.

So nevermind letting the smartest kids in, let's limit it to the richest?

[mappatazee]

Don't care. Except Athletic category. Pl-ease. I don't give a shit about balls.

[Lyion]

Neither do I. Look at how many NFL players that can hardly form a complete sentence being paid millions upon millions. If you want the tickets, you'll buy them. If you want the education, you'll pay the tuition.

The NFL is private sector, and they compete for those jobs. Heavily compete. Unlike college, it isn't coming out of your tax dollars, also.

The problem with these dorks is the lack of competition, the fact they probably aren't nearly the best people, and they are vastly overpaid to boot.

Philosophy professors clearing 500k/year in take home is ridiculous. Moreso because a lot of that dough comes from our tax money.

No wonder its so astronomical to go to even a mediocre college.

[The Kizzy]

Lyion, who do you think pays for the stadiums to be built for those NFL players? IIRC, a few years ago in Cleveland, Mayor Jane Campbell laid off tons of city workers,(fire dept, EMT's, police) just so she owuld have more money in the budget to build a new stadium

[Minrott]

because that has something to do with anything ever in the discussion.

[The Kizzy]

What?

[Ouchyfish]

lol

[Zanchief]

I know, right?