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Postby Tacks » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:52 am

Martrae wrote:Didn't you later drop out and live in dumpsters or something?


You did what, worked in a porn store and now sit on your fat ass acting high and mighty? Which is worse.
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Postby 10sun » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:53 am

lyion wrote:
Tacks wrote:there are NO mean and judgemental people at all outside of high school, true story


There is some truth and fiction here. College is nothing like high school, and people there pay and want to be there, generally. Also, due to the sense of urgency and the nature of what universities are, they are vastly different from high school/Jr High.

However, I do think the idea of learning to deal with people and developing a tougher skin is indeed something that is missing in a lot of home schooling environments.

I went to both public and private schools. The private schools are more akin to universities. The public school I went to was more akin to a jail.


At my high school, the sooner you capped at high school level courses, the sooner you could go to The Ohio State University full time paid for by the school district or just graduate early. I had friends finish going to high school their sophomore year and move directly to OSU fulltime for the next two years, essentially getting a free ride scholarship. Personally I opted to graduate early, work for a while, & then go to school. There were plenty of options available. For those that were not college minded, there was a vocational school that you could choose to be sent to instead after your sophomore year of high school. And this was in Ohio, nationally ranked #49 for funding per student throughout the state.

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Postby Martrae » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:18 am

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Martrae wrote:Didn't you later drop out and live in dumpsters or something?



Something like that.


Kinda goes back to my point about 'gifted' programs, doesn't it?
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Postby Martrae » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:20 am

Tacks wrote:
Martrae wrote:Didn't you later drop out and live in dumpsters or something?


You did what, worked in a porn store and now sit on your fat ass acting high and mighty? Which is worse.


Ahh...but I was considered 'gifted' too. Gifted but unmotivated. Don't have to be motivated when you're smart...right?

Now I have motivation...it's my kids. I want them to do better than I did.
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Postby araby » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:22 am

motivation has everything to do with incentive really, not being smart. smart people probably find less incentive since they have something that comes easily. I'm lazy and I'm stupid. but am I stupid because I am lazy? or am I smart? and stupid, because I'm lazy. could I be smarter if I weren't lazy? yes. so lazy=stupid.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:30 am

Martrae wrote:
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Martrae wrote:Didn't you later drop out and live in dumpsters or something?


You did what, worked in a porn store and now sit on your fat ass acting high and mighty? Which is worse.


Ahh...but I was considered 'gifted' too. Gifted but unmotivated. Don't have to be motivated when you're smart...right?

Now I have motivation...it's my kids. I want them to do better than I did.


The only thing you're gifted at is bullshitting and convincing yourself of ridiculous things.
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Postby Tossica » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:18 pm

Martrae wrote:
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Martrae wrote:Didn't you later drop out and live in dumpsters or something?



Something like that.


Kinda goes back to my point about 'gifted' programs, doesn't it?



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Postby Dylan » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:22 pm

Lol white women.
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Postby Harrison » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:21 pm

I don't know about you guys, but my school(s) never allowed skipping a grade. By testing or otherwise...
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Postby Zanchief » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:30 pm

Well that's pretty fucked up.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:33 pm

Harrison wrote:I don't know about you guys, but my school(s) never allowed skipping a grade. By testing or otherwise...


I'm pretty sure you're just spewing shit out your mouth and don't really know how your school system even worked since you were too busy raging against the machine.
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Postby Tossica » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:49 pm

Harrison wrote:I don't know about you guys, but my school(s) never allowed skipping a grade. By testing or otherwise...


Massachusetts High School Equivalency Diploma


It's not up to the school, the state offers a legit way out.
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Postby Lyion » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:23 pm

How does that work if one is under 18 years old?
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Postby Evermore » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:37 pm

Tacks wrote:
Harrison wrote:I don't know about you guys, but my school(s) never allowed skipping a grade. By testing or otherwise...


I'm pretty sure you're just spewing shit out your mouth and don't really know how your school system even worked since you were too busy raging against the machine.


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Postby Tossica » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:37 pm

lyion wrote:How does that work if one is under 18 years old?


18 with no qualifications; however, if 16 or 17, the applicant must have "official letter of withdrawal" from their last school of attendance on file at test center.


High school is optional if you know your shit.
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Postby Harrison » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:39 pm

Evermore wrote:
Tacks wrote:
Harrison wrote:I don't know about you guys, but my school(s) never allowed skipping a grade. By testing or otherwise...


I'm pretty sure you're just spewing shit out your mouth and don't really know how your school system even worked since you were too busy raging against the machine.


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Yeah, because seeing as how I live here and went through it, I would know less than you about what I went through.
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Postby Martrae » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:44 pm

Tossica wrote:
lyion wrote:How does that work if one is under 18 years old?


18 with no qualifications; however, if 16 or 17, the applicant must have "official letter of withdrawal" from their last school of attendance on file at test center.


High school is optional if you know your shit.


Depends on the state. SD just raised the compulsory attendance age to 18.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:46 pm

Harrison wrote:
Evermore wrote:
Tacks wrote:
Harrison wrote:I don't know about you guys, but my school(s) never allowed skipping a grade. By testing or otherwise...


I'm pretty sure you're just spewing shit out your mouth and don't really know how your school system even worked since you were too busy raging against the machine.


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Yeah, because seeing as how I live here and went through it, I would know less than you about what I went through.


Show me a link where it says that you cannot skip a grade in Massachusetts then. I've been looking on the internet and I've only seen evidence that says otherwise.

Here's your chance big boy, prove me wrong.
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Postby Harrison » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:56 pm

I'm not the one who has something to prove here. I know what I had to deal with. You do not.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Umm yes you are the one who has something to prove...
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Postby Lyion » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:10 pm

You both certainly are proving something here......
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Postby Tuggan » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:12 pm

lyion wrote:You both certainly are proving something here......


lol
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Postby Scatillac » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:08 am

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Postby Lyion » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:08 pm

We were discussing how cruel and nasty schools can be...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

Va. Tech Shooter Was Laughed At
Apr 19 12:15 PM US/Eastern By MATT APUZZO
Associated Press Writer


BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) - Long before he snapped, Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui was picked on, pushed around and laughed at over his shyness and the strange way he talked when he was a schoolboy in the Washington suburbs, former classmates say.

Chris Davids, a Virginia Tech senior who graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., with Cho in 2003, recalled that the South Korean immigrant almost never opened his mouth and would ignore attempts to strike up a conversation.

Once, in English class, the teacher had the students read aloud, and when it was Cho's turn, he just looked down in silence, Davids recalled. Finally, after the teacher threatened him with an F for participation, Cho started to read in a strange, deep voice that sounded "like he had something in his mouth," Davids said.

"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said.

The high school classmates' accounts add to the psychological portrait that is beginning to take shape, and could shed light on Cho's state of mind in the video rant he mailed to NBC in the middle of his rampage Monday at Virginia Tech.

He shot 32 people to death and committed suicide in the deadliest one- man shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

In the often-incoherent video, the 23-year-old Cho portrays himself as persecuted and rants about rich kids.

"Your Mercedes wasn't enough, you brats," says Cho, who came to the U.S. in 1992 and whose parents work at a dry cleaners in suburban Washington. "Your golden necklaces weren't enough, you snobs. Your trust funds wasn't enough. Your vodka and cognac wasn't enough. All your debaucheries weren't enough. Those weren't enough to fulfill your hedonistic needs. You had everything."

Among the victims of the massacre were two other Westfield High graduates: Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson. Both young women graduated from the high school last year. Police said it is not clear whether Cho singled them out.

Stephanie Roberts, 22, a fellow member of Cho's graduating class at Westfield High, said she never witnessed anyone picking on Cho in high school.

"I just remember he was a shy kid who didn't really want to talk to anybody," she said. "I guess a lot of people felt like maybe there was a language barrier."

But she said friends of hers who went to middle school with Cho told her they recalled him getting picked on there.

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."

Virginia Tech student Alison Heck said a suitemate of hers on campus—Christina Lilick—found a mysterious question mark scrawled on the dry erase board on her door. Lilick went to the same high school as Cho, according to Lilick's Facebook page. Cho once scrawled a question mark on the sign-in sheet on the first day of a literature class, and other students came to know him as "the question mark kid."

"I don't know if she knew that it was him for sure," Heck said. "I do remember that that fall that she was being stalked and she had mentioned the question mark. And there was a question mark on her door."

Heck added: "She just let us know about it just in case there was a strange person walking around our suite."

Lilick could not immediately be located for comment, via e-mail or telephone.

On Wednesday, NBC received a package containing a rambling and often incoherent 23-page written statement from Cho, 28 video clips and 43 photos—many of them showing Cho brandishing handguns. A Postal Service time stamp reads 9:01 a.m.—between the two attacks on campus.

The package helped explain one mystery: where the gunman was and what he did during that two-hour window between the first burst of gunfire, at a high-rise dorm, and the second attack, at a classroom building.

"You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today," a snarling Cho says on video. "But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off."

Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police, said Thursday that the material contained little they did not already know. Flaherty said he was disappointed that NBC decided to broadcast parts of it.

"I just hate that a lot of people not used to seeing that type of image had to see it," he said.

On NBC's "Today" show Thursday, host Meredith Vieira said the decision to air the information "was not taken lightly." Some victims' relatives canceled their plans to speak with NBC because they were upset over the airing of the images, she said.

"I saw his picture on TV, and when I did I just got chills," said Kristy Venning, a junior from Franklin County, Va. "There's really no words. It shows he put so much thought into this and I think it's sick."

Some of the pictures in the video package show him smiling; others show him frowning and snarling. Some depict him brandishing two weapons at a time, one in each hand. He wears a khaki-colored military-style vest, fingerless gloves, a black T-shirt, a backpack and a backward, black baseball cap. Another photo shows him swinging a hammer two-fisted. Another shows an angry-looking Cho holding a gun to his temple.

There has been some speculation, especially among online forums, that Cho may have been inspired by the South Korean movie "Oldboy." One of the killer's mailed photos shows him brandishing a hammer—the signature weapon of the protagonist—and in a pose similar to one from the film.

The film won the Gran Prix prize at the Cannes Film Festival in 2004. It is about a man unjustly imprisoned for 15 years. After escaping, he goes on a rampage against his captor.

Authorities on Thursday disclosed that more than a year before the massacre, Cho had been accused of sending unwanted messages to two women and was taken to a psychiatric hospital on a magistrate's orders and was pronounced a danger to himself. But he was released with orders to undergo outpatient treatment.

The disclosure added to the rapidly growing list of warning signs that appeared well before the student opened fire. Among other things, Cho's twisted, violence-filled writings and sullen, vacant-eyed demeanor had disturbed professors and students so much that he was removed from one English class and was repeatedly urged to get counseling.
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Postby Martrae » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:20 pm

You lie! That stuff NEVER happens in our schools!!!

Sick fucking bastard twisting this event to suit your agenda! I spit in your face and laugh at your DPS!





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