should I be upset ?

[xaoshaen]

Drinking regen???????? Regen is important during battle, out of battle who gives a fuck whether it takes you 15 or 20 secs to med to FM, I often start or continue to drink during pulls and well after the fight has begun, so there isn't down time because of my low 300 spirit. Mana regen is important during battle, that is when you need to heal and keep your group/raid mates alive. Any other regen is useless unless you are a farmer and have quotas to fill for the chinese game mafia. Problem with that is that YOU CAN"T REGEN MOST OF THE TIME IN BATTLE BECAUSE YOU ARE CASTING AND WHEN YOU CAST YOU CAN"T REGEN FOR 5 SECS... by the time you can regen you have already casted again.. I don't even know why I am trying to help people figure this out, it isn't rocket science...

I'm not really sure why you're trying to help people figure it out, because no, it's not at all like rocket science. More like scientology, really: pap you heard somewhere and feel compelled to reiterate ad nauseam. As you said, "mana regen is important during battle", and spirit, correctly used will comprise the majority of your uptime regen. Yes, it's useless if you're constantly having to spam spells. Of course, if you have to spam as a healer either you or your group fall squarely into the "suck ass" category. Spirit can provide half the mana regen of drinking... and it's available during combat to those able to take advantage of it. I can. I guess you're not able to do so. My condolences.

[Freon]

You are right Xao, I should and do feel so much shame for wanting to surround myself with people that understand how things work, and use reason and logic over stupidity. Let me go hang myself right now for trying to better my gaming environment. Before I hang myself can I kneel in front of you and kiss your feet???


Or...Maybe I can see my allergist and get shots to prevent my reactions to supidity.


Freon

[Tacks]

Now you're getting personal Freon, chill out. *I* haven't said shit about your choices since we talked. Things will look much differently in 3 months from now I can assure you.

[Gidan]

I guess the real question then would be, Why are you still trying to argue it. You should be satisfied that you think you are right and not have to ahve the approval of everyone else. If you were so truly convinced of your argument you would have just let it drop with the knowlege that you are right and that the other will just suffer from their lack on knowlege. Maybe your still trying to convince yourself or maybe you just have a great need of other people approval.

Bare facts. Spirit has its uses, Int has its uses. Everyone has their own play style. For some Spirit is beter for others Int will be beter. Kind of dumb to get mad when other people dont agree with you about a video game.

[Freon]

I'm not really sure why you're trying to help people figure it out, because no, it's not at all like rocket science. More like scientology, really: pap you heard somewhere and feel compelled to reiterate ad nauseam. As you said, "mana regen is important during battle", and spirit, correctly used will comprise the majority of your uptime regen. Yes, it's useless if you're constantly having to spam spells. Of course, if you have to spam as a healer either you or your group fall squarely into the "suck ass" category. Spirit can provide half the mana regen of drinking... and it's available during combat to those able to take advantage of it. I can. I guess you're not able to do so. My condolences.

Xao you are one of the only people I know that is deffending Spirit, and I feel no obligation to help you "get it", I rather just laugh.

Oh and as for your comment about healers who are casting non stop being "suck ass" LOLOLOLOLOLOL.. This is proof that you know nothing of end game content and how priests work. People that I play with in nameless who actually know the end game like Kezz, Skrum, Mogrim, and Quolyte know how much healing is needed for end game content. For example vs the general in upper BRS when I am one of 2 healers, I have to spam heal non stop until the end of the fight. You might ask yourself why ol'mighty Freon? and I would answer it's because I am constantly healing a main tank, a warlock that is fearing a guard, my group mates eating AE and conflag as well as myself while I back up heal the off tank, and reverse heal on one of other 15 people in raids. During a general fight I would be lucky if i regen 1 mana... And you say spirit is usefull LOLOLOLOL... Xao go play pacman or something.. You are too uber for WoW..

[Freon]

You need to level, noob! Quit wasting time with that PvP crap and grind! <Wanderers> will be all over you like suck on a pally.

Kezz: You mean like this?

I am trying to only toss shit back at where it started... See the above quote to see what triggered my rage.

I still like most nameless folks, and as you know I still help you guys out and play with you. I will however always have problems with stupidity.

Freon

[xaoshaen]

There are certaintly fights in the game that demand spam healing. They are, however, the exception rather than the rule. The vast majority of the time, a skilled healer can derive significant benefit from soft-capping their spirit. Arguing that spirit is useless on the basis of one specific fight is like like arguing that Marines shouldn't be issued rifles because they're ineffective against MBTs.

[Freon]

Kezz: I don't know what exactly you mean by "things will be much different in 3 months" but if it has to do with the server dynamics changing? everyone and anyone that plays MMORPG's knows this. Maybe you should keep a leash on people making comments like Xao did, because you are right things can change quickly.

Freon

[xaoshaen]

You need to level, noob! Quit wasting time with that PvP crap and grind! <Wanderers> will be all over you like suck on a pally.

Kezz: You mean like this?

I am trying to only toss shit back at where it started... See the above quote to see what triggered my rage.

I still like most nameless folks, and as you know I still help you guys out and play with you. I will however always have problems with stupidity.

Freon

Bwahahahahah! Thanks Freon, that made my day. For those of you who don't have a clue about what I was referring to there, I dragged Vonk away from grinding to help defend Tarren Mill the other night. I figured my blatantly overblown diction would give away the sarcasm.

It certaintly appears that you will always have problems with reading comprehension, though I don't know that I'd go so far as to call it outright stupidity.

[xaoshaen]

Kezz: I don't know what exactly you mean by "things will be much different in 3 months" but if it has to do with the server dynamics changing? everyone and anyone that plays MMORPG's knows this. Maybe you should keep a leash on people making comments like Xao did, because you are right things can change quickly.

Freon

Yeah, heaven forbid someone (incidentally someone with significantly more experience than yourself) should have the temerity to disagree with you.

[Freon]

Xao... End game encounters on horde side on whisperwind (only 3 that matters to lvl 60's that aren't ready for MC and Ony as you would obviously know), Baron in Strath spam heal required with 1 or 2 priests, UBRS spam heal required on general with 1 or 2 priests, Scholo boss spam mana burn required 1 or 2 healers...

Hmm lets see that's 3 for 3.. and my math isn't good so correct me if I am wrong.. Could that be 100% of the top 3 encounters on our server on the horde side so far? And is it likely that the encounters in MC and Onyxia get any easier? Please Xao keep looking like a jack ass... Before you talk play a little and figure things out.. Foot in mouth = bad..

Freon

[xaoshaen]

Xao... End game encounters on horde side on whisperwind (only 3 that matters to lvl 60's that aren't ready for MC and Ony as you would obviously know), Baron in Strath spam heal required with 1 or 2 priests, UBRS spam heal required on general with 1 or 2 priests, Scholo boss spam mana burn required 1 or 2 healers...

Hmm lets see that's 3 for 3.. and my math isn't good so correct me if I am wrong.. Could that be 100% of the top 3 encounters on our server on the horde side so far? And is it likely that the encounters in MC and Onyxia get any easier? Please Xao keep looking like a jack ass... Before you talk play a little and figure things out.. Foot in mouth = bad..

Freon

Well, after your little reading comprehension error, I'll take your word on the effects of foot-in-mouth syndrome. That's a grand total of three fights in the game that demand spam healing. What percentage of play time do you invest in killing those three mobs? Again, you're talking about discontinuing rifle issue because they're not effective against MBTs.

[Freon]

So Xao, making fun of things with a sarcatic tone means that it's ok? Get a clue, you were clearly sarcastic and an ass simultaneously. Give yourself credit you can do 2 things at the same time.

Freon

[vonkaar]

[Freon]

Wow You asked a question before putting your foot in your mouth this time I am impressed.

So you ask what percentage of play time do I invest in killing these three mobs. The answer is 100% of my play time is directly related to killing these three mobs because it's all there is before people are ready to do MC and Onyx.

Yes, time is spent clearing shit before but all the encounters before are trivial and a monkey with 100 spi and 100int could do it. But when it matters and when the stats start meaning something like vs the bosses that is when having the right stats is what makes or breaks your ability to keep people alive.

Freon

[Tacks]

Would you guys shut up please?

[Freon]

LOL Kezz.. No one is forcing you to read this!! I agree this is stupid, but I... Just... can't... shut... up...

Freon

[xaoshaen]

So Xao, making fun of things with a sarcatic tone means that it's ok? Get a clue, you were clearly sarcastic and an ass simultaneously. Give yourself credit you can do 2 things at the same time.

Freon

The only thing I initially made fun of was the paladin class. I apologise if this offended you.

So you ask what percentage of play time do I invest in killing these three mobs. The answer is 100% of my play time is directly related to killing these three mobs because it's all there is before people are ready to do MC and Onyx.

Congratulations on sidestepping the question. I repeat, what percentage of your playtime has been spent on the three listed fights?

Yes, time is spent clearing shit before but all the encounters before are trivial and a monkey with 100 spi and 100int could do it. But when it matters and when the stats start meaning something like vs the bosses that is when having the right stats is what makes or breaks your ability to keep people alive.

So, the only time stats matter is during those three fights? I know from experience that you've been in group wipeouts elsewhere and been frustrated by it. I've seen people die in your groups, so obviously there are other times when stats become non-trivial. It's been my experience that stats matter quite a bit in PvP. I guess it's easier to just dismiss any experience that doesn't support your narrow perspective though.

[Freon]

Sorry Xao but I am done with this.. You clearly have near zero ability to read, think, understand and reason. Just look at your comments from the second quote, you say sidestepping when the answer is in the quote you pasted. ROFL..

Cya

Freon

[Skrum]

I am going to agree with Freon and say in the current state of affairs on our server, spirit is worthless. Theres NEVER enough priests, or hell, healers period on any given excursion to take advantage of healing rotation. Spirit is going to matter in MC possibly, but I won't comment on MC and beyond since none of us have ANY experience in there other than what we have read from the uber guilds who occasionally post info.

[xaoshaen]

Sorry Xao but I am done with this.. You clearly have near zero ability to read, think, understand and reason. Just look at your comments from the second quote, you say sidestepping when the answer is in the quote you pasted. ROFL..

Cya

Freon

Sorry Freon, but sidestepping a question, then offering an excuse for the evasion doesn't equate to an answer. Nor does it answer any of the other points I raised.