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by **Narrock** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:45 pm

I have 1gb of Ram right now. I'm also playing EQ2 regularly. I was thinking about buying another gig of ram to boost performance. My question is... Is 2gb of Ram going to make a noticeable performance improvement, or should I just stick with the 1 gig I have?

I have 2 512mb sticks of Mushkin DDR333 PC2700 (level 2) right now.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:40 am

Post your full system specs.

by **Lyion** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:51 am

Mindia wrote:I have 1gb of Ram right now. I'm also playing EQ2 regularly. I was thinking about buying another gig of ram to boost performance. My question is... Is 2gb of Ram going to make a noticeable performance improvement, or should I just stick with the 1 gig I have?

You'll see a few points increase, but not a major boost. Going to a faster 1 gig of RAM will make a more noticeable bump than just raising your raw memory size.

It's not worth it, IMO. If you have a gig of RAM, unless you are running an assload of TSRs then you are good to go on the memory requirements.

If you want to your PC to fly, my recommendations would be:

Use a 939 Motherboard with a fast AMD Chip.
Get a Raptor Drive.
A Gig of Dual DDR RAM.
Get a 256Meg 6800 GT Video card.

by **Narrock** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:15 pm

current system config:

Amd Athlon XP2500 OC'd
Gigabyte NForce3 mobo
1 gig pc2700 ram
Nvidia 6800GT OC (BFG Tech)
7200rpm Barracuda drive

3.1mbps cable connection.

So, 1 gig of PC4200 or 4400 will be more effective than 2gigs of PC2700?

by **Lyion** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:21 pm

A 10k Raptor Hard Drive would do a ton more than upgrading your RAM. It's fine.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:25 pm

Yeah everything is fine, even upgrading your hard drive will only effect load times.

by **Narrock** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:47 pm

ok thanks

by **Lyion** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:55 pm

Harrison wrote:Yeah everything is fine, even upgrading your hard drive will only effect load times.

Upgrading the Hard Drive will result in an overall faster system, not just load times.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:59 pm

The only way someone will really notice it without benchmarks typically will be load times in a game like EQ2.

That is just my opinion. He doesn't seem like a hardware/computer geek like I am and will likely not notice it beyond that given example.

But that example will be a significant improvement in itself.

by **Narrock** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:01 pm

If I get a 10,000 rpm SATA HD, can I transfer all my data from my current HD to the new one?

by **Diekan** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:05 pm

The HD is the only device still using movable parts in your computer (besides the fans). I can't wait till they come out with an affordable solid state HD. Talk about fast? Windows will be loaded before your screen brigthens up when you turn the system on.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:44 pm

I don't understand why they don't do it already.

It CAN be done, I know it can.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:45 pm

Mindia wrote:If I get a 10,000 rpm SATA HD, can I transfer all my data from my current HD to the new one?

Yes, if your motherboard supports SATA.

by **Diekan** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:52 pm

Harrison wrote:I don't understand why they don't do it already.

It CAN be done, I know it can.

It's like everything else technology wise. They're gonna milk it. I am pretty sure they had the technology to develop a gig processor back when the 350 was "fast." But, rather than jump to the "end" it's actually smart business to release the chips gradually. 350 this year - 450 next year - 500 the year after and so on. It's good logical business.

At least that's how I understand it.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:34 pm

Same thing with the CD and derivatives IMO

It's much more logical to do away with CD players and have it all with FLASH cards etc. (more storage space and much more reliable)

by **Tossica** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:37 pm

Solid state is expensive. They COULD make a 200GB solid state drive but would you want to pay $20,000 for it?

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:42 pm

A solid state drive of 20-30gb wouldn't be $20k (20-30gb is perfectly fine for most people)

That being said I have a 120gb drive and couldn't hurt to have more but I don't.

The technology is there, it's just not being utilized if you ask me.

by **Tossica** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:46 pm

ok, do you want to pay $3K for your 30GB drive?

by **Tossica** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:48 pm

We had solid state drives at the PC shop I worked at over 10 years ago but a 512MB drive cost like $2200 back then. The technology is there, yes. The price point is the problem.

by **Narrock** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:01 pm

Harrison wrote:
Mindia wrote:If I get a 10,000 rpm SATA HD, can I transfer all my data from my current HD to the new one?

Yes, if your motherboard supports SATA.

It does. Actually, it's an NForce2 board, not NForce 3. Here's what it says on the box:

K7 Triton series
AGP 8x/Dual Channel DDR
Nvidia NForce Chipset (NForce 2)
Socket A
4 DDR (Dual-CH) / LAN
6-CH Audio / USB2.0 / 1394
SATA / RAID / ATA133

Probably a nOOb board by today's standards, but it has worked flawlessly for the year that I've had it.

by **Weazilla** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:09 pm

speaking of hard drives, my computer has started making some clicking and grinding noises. Is my hard drive about to die or what's up with that?

by **Diekan** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:17 pm

Well, I have a good way for you to test your computer, it works great.

1. Fill your bath tub full of warm water.
2. Get your computer tower and plug into a nearby outlet (close to the tub), get an extension cord if needed.
3. Get undressed.
4. Sit in the bath tub.
5. Make sure your completely soaked.
6. Turn the computer on.
7. Drop the computer into the tub, perferably down by your feet.
8. If you feel a tingle - then your computer is fine. If not then you need a new one.

by **Phlegm** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:20 pm

Diekan wrote:8. If you feel a tingle - then your computer is fine. If not then you need a new one.

This will only tell you that the power supply works. You will need another test to see if the computer work.

by **Weazilla** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:21 pm

hmm that just might work... brb I'll try it.

by **Harrison** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:22 pm

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