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Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
Martrae wrote:Did someone say that personal accounts would make it solvent? I musta missed that line.
Ugzug wrote:Mart - I don't think anyone that has done ANY amount of research on this would deny that the current Social Security system is failing and will be 100% insolvent very soon.
There are debates as to what is the proper "fix" for it... personal accounts is definitely one that I, personally, like and that seems to gather a lot of public support.
Ugzugz wrote:Mart - I don't think anyone that has done ANY amount of research on this would deny that the current Social Security system is failing and will be 100% insolvent very soon.
Martrae wrote:
Not sure where you got your info from...but apparently a couple months later they changed their minds.
Generally, when your outlay exceeds your revenue that's not a good thing.
Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
Lyion wrote:Planning on moving to the US soon, Rust?
Ugzugz wrote:Rust - we certainly would have to have some kind of dual program in place for some time to cover those who do not have the time to build up a personal account.
The issue of solvency is real and very serious. The main cause is because the overages that have existed in the past have been stolen by Congress to fund pork programs. The money that would be necessary to cover the outlays will NOT exist. If Congress were to pay Social Security back for the debts that have been incurred, we wouldn't be facing this crisis.
You can sit there with your head in the sand - you live in Canada and it doesn't affect you directly - you or your retirement planning. However, don't be spewing falsehood and misinformation to the Americans who need to educate themselves. We have >40% of our government already taking care of that.
Lyion wrote:What sort of retirement setup does Canada have?
Oh, yes, there's one more group to be criticized: the American voters. For the past 30 years, Americans have wanted high entitlement spending and low taxes. From the looks of things today, they - or more precisely their children - are going to live with the consequences.
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Taxes are higher in Canada, funding OAP is not generally considered a looming issue here.
Tikker wrote:Taxes are higher in Canada, funding OAP is not generally considered a looming issue here.
what are you, retarded?
When the baby boomers retire, there will be almost twice as many drawing OAP as those contributing to it
Maybe it's not an issue to you, but when they jack up my contribution rate, I know it will be an issue for me
Mindia wrote:I was wrong obviously.
Ugzugz wrote:Once again, Rust has found a single website that draws conclusions on partial data sets supporting his socialist opinion and then he stands before us with fingers planted firmly in his ears while he drones on... and on... and on.... and on.
You're a broken record, Rust... and it's the b-side of a no-name artist's record, at that.
The annual cost of Social Security benefits represents 4.3 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) today and is projected to rise to 6.6 percent of GDP in 2078. The projected 75-year actuarial deficit in the combined Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) and Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Funds is 1.89 percent of taxable payroll, down slightly from 1.92 percent in last year's report. The program continues to fail our long-range test of close actuarial balance by a wide margin. Projected OASDI tax income will begin to fall short of outlays in 2018 and will be sufficient to finance only 73 percent of scheduled annual benefits by 2042, when the combined OASDI trust fund is projected to be exhausted.
Tikker wrote:You missed the whole point
when the geezers retire in the next 5 years, YOUR oap contributions will have to increase to fund THEIR oap
it has fuck all to do with what you may or may not end up collecting
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