Frightening and Fascinating stuff Duncans Demons

[Lyion]

If you want to see the writings of a Sex Offender , here's a link to Joseph Duncan's Weblog

http://www.zorasdomain.com/duncan/

Here's his last entry. Scary, fascinating, frightening stuff...

My blog entries lately are erratic and full of a lot of B.S., for that I apologize. I am just trying to put down what is in my head, regardless. As far as "taking people with me" well, I don't know if that is right or wrong. In fact, I don't know much any more what right and wrong even is. My view is either everything is right (in some regard) or everything is wrong (in some other regard). The question (one I am struggling with at this point) is, "Does it matter?"
Does anything matter? My mother is crying right now, because her son is in trouble again. She tried to raise a good son, and she knows her son has a good heart, so why does he do these things? She is probably more hurt and confused than me. Does it matter? It hurts me to know these things, but DOES IT MATTER???
A hundred years from now, all my mothers pain will be forgotten, and other mothers will cry for there sons. A million years from now there probably won't be any mothers (at least not like we know).
I have feelings, in fact I think I must be more sensitive than most people because I seem to feel more than they do, at least more than what they openly express. I feel for the starving children and families in the world, others say, "Oh, that's too bad, but I can't do anything so..."
I wish I could be more honest about my feelings, but those demons made sure I'd never be able to do that. I might not know if it matters, but just in case, I am working on an encrypted journal that is hundreds of times more frank than this blog could ever be (that's why I keep it encrypted). I figure in 30 years or more we will have the technology to easily crack the encryption (currently very un-crackable, PGP) and then the world will know who I really was, and what I really did, and what I really thought. Also, maybe then they will understand that despite my actions, I'm not a bad person, I just have a disease contracted from society, and it hurts a lot.

I hope to complete this journal before I die (soon) or turn myself in (I still might do that, I think it is the right thing, but of course, I'm not sure).
Speak of being sure; I wish I could be sure about my thoughts. But right now the only thing I'm sure about is that I'm sure about nothing. It is not a good position to be in considering my circumstances (being a felony fugitive and aThanks for the comments. As far as letting God take care of the Demons, too late. They've locked up the "Happy Joe" person in the same dungeon that "Happy Joe" kept them in for so many years. Now they are loose and I am very afraid. From now on I may refer to "Happy Joe" as "Jet" (me) and the demons as "The Bogeyman." If you are familiar with me or even my fifthnail website then you will understand the names (see http://www.fifthnail.com).

I have been asking God to help defeat the demons. In fact, last night I was on my knees begging him, crying out loud to him, to help me. He didn't answer, again. The problem is I am loosing my religion. I don't accept anything at face value, not even my own thoughts. So when I start having religious convictions I question the source. And in my current situation I figure I am under a lot of stress, and there are perfectly natural human mechanisms that account for all religious experiences. The demons (if that's what they/it are/is--I use the term for mere convenience) have convinced me that I should at least question my religious beliefs, (this makes sense, otherwise I would believe anything) and that is how they got the key to the dungeon, and trapped me inside.

To be more specific, I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die. As for the "Happy Joe" (Jet), well he was just a dream. The bogeyman was alive and happy long before Happy Joe.

I was in prison for over 18 years, since the age of 17. As an adult all I knew was the oppression of incarceration. All those years I dreamed of getting out...And getting even. Instead, I got out and I got even, but did not get caught. So, I got even again, and again did not get caught. So, I figured, well, I got even twice (actually more, but that's here nor there), even if I'm the only one who knows, so now what? Well that was when the "Happy Joe" dream started. I met a bunch of really great people, the kind of people I didn't even know existed, but here they were, bunches of them, my neighbors, my landlords, my professors, my coworkers, and they were all good people, who were willing to give me a chance despite my past. They were willing to accept me and be my friend, something that was new for me, having been betrayed by many "friends" and even my own family.
So, I tried to make it work. But the problem was those demons. The ones who "got even" for me. They kept reminding me that if my new "friends" knew about them (and what they, I, had done to even), then so much for their friendship. So, "Happy Joe" was just dreaming, or pretending to be happy.ll).

[Martrae]

I'm simply amazed they found her alive, but then again his tastes always did run to little boys.

[Phlegm]

Here's an article from cnn.com about Duncan and the ordeal the little girl went through:


COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (CNN) -- Eight-year-old Shasta Groene told investigators she saw Joseph Edward Duncan III tie up members of her family in their home on the day authorities say they were killed, according to an investigative report released Tuesday.

Earlier Tuesday, Duncan was formally charged with two counts of first-degree kidnapping. If convicted, Duncan, 42, could face the death penalty or life in prison.

Shasta and her 9-year-old brother, Dylan, disappeared May 16, the same day authorities discovered their mother, 40-year-old Brenda Groene, a brother, 13-year-old Slade, and their mother's 37-year-old boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, bound and bludgeoned to death at the family's home in Coeur d'Alene.

Duncan, a convicted sex offender, was arrested after a Denny's waitress in Coeur d'Alene recognized Shasta when she came into the restaurant with him about 2 a.m. Saturday.

Dylan has not been found, but investigators fear human remains found Monday in western Montana may be his.

The report does not say if Shasta witnessed the killings, but it marks the first time anyone has put Duncan at the scene.

Shasta also told investigators she and Dylan were repeatedly raped by Duncan at least two camp sites in Montana, according to the handwritten report by an investigator recapping an interview with the girl.

"Shasta saw Mr. Duncan molest Dylan," the report says.

The report does not mention Shasta as saying anything about the whereabouts of Dylan.

The interview with Shasta was conducted by Kootenai County Sheriff Sgt. Daniel Mattos and was videotaped, according to the report.

According to the report, Shasta told Mattos she was asleep in her home May 15 when she was awakened by her mother and "went to living room." It says a man forced the "family in ligatures."

She and Dylan were carried and placed into a pickup truck, removed from the property and later transferred to a Jeep, the report says.

"Was same person she was found with, Joseph Duncan," the report alleges.

She told investigators she had never met Duncan before and that he was the only person involved in the kidnappings.

Shasta never used the term rape with investigators, but she provided graphic details about what allegedly occurred.

Meanwhile, Shasta continues to recover at a local hospital. "She's doing very well," said Kootenai County Sheriff's Capt. Ben Wolfinger. "Her medical condition is listed as good."
First court appearance

Duncan was subdued when he made his first appearance in Kootenai County Superior Court via a video link Tuesday.

The kidnapping charges include the intent to rape, commit an unnatural act or perform a lewd and lascivious act upon a child under the age of 16.

Judge Scott Wayman told Duncan he could not enter a plea on the felony charges. He is not eligible for bail, and the next court date was not set. A public defender was appointed for him.

Duncan also was charged with being a fugitive from a prior criminal charge in Minnesota. Wayman set bail of $2 million on that count.

Duncan, with dark curly hair and a mustache, wore a yellow jumpsuit and a shackle around his waist.

Asked if he understood the nature of the charges, Duncan replied, "I believe I do, yes."

Asked if he had any questions, he said, "No, none."

Duncan had already been charged in Washington with failure to file a change of address with the state sex offender registry.

In 1980, when he was 16, Duncan was convicted in Washington of raping a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint and served most of a 20-year sentence.

More recently, he was charged in Minnesota with failure to contact his probation officer, a condition of his release on bail after he was charged with child molestation there earlier this year.
Remains analyzed

The remains found in Montana are "most likely" those of Dylan, Wolfinger said.

He said investigators have determined that the area where the remains were found "is one of the many sites where we believe that Duncan held the Groene children or stayed with the Groene children."

"However, we're not going to make that 100 percent until we get the DNA confirmation later in the week."

In St. Regis, Montana, FBI Special Agent Tim Fuhrman told reporters Duncan and the children "spent some time in the Lolo National Forest over the last seven weeks."

"We continue to process several areas which we believe are crime scenes which are located in an extremely remote part of the forest," Fuhrman said.

Because the sites are in remote areas of the 2-million-acre forest, there are "significant safety concerns," Fuhrman said.

Fuhrman asked people who were in the forest or town in the last seven weeks to "search their memories" and call a tip line (208 446-2292 or 208 446-2293) with any useful information.

Also Tuesday, a convenience store released a surveillance tape that shows Duncan and Shasta Groene arriving in a red SUV, entering the store, making purchases and leaving again.

The video was taken Friday evening in Kellogg, Idaho, about 40 miles east of the Denny's where Shasta was recognized just hours later.

At one point on the tape, the girl walked the aisles of the store by herself while Duncan looked at a newspaper on a different row.

[Martrae]

Another article I read said both kids were repeatedly molested.

What a sick sick sick man.

[Yamori]

Wow. @_@

Reading some of his earlier entries, he sounds somewhat rational too... Or at least he puts some thought into what he says. o_O

Weird.

[Wrath Child]

A kindred spirit of yours?

[Yamori]

Uh, no.

Reading the whole thing, it's obvious he is pretty delusional and has a bizarre concept of responsibility, but given that he still shows some thoughtfulness in some of his entries, which makes it interesting, as it definitely isn't something you'd expect from a person who probably murdered 3 or more people and probably raped an unknown number of kids.

[Harrison]

I still say by the way you appear...you're on the road to serial killing and rape yourself.

...just an observation.

[Zanchief]

I still say by the way you appear...you're on the road to serial killing and rape yourself.

...just an observation.

Seems ambitious when you compare to some people~

[Yamori]

I still say by the way you appear...you're on the road to serial killing and rape yourself.

...just an observation.

What makes you say that, out of curiousity?

[Darcler]

I dreamed last night that I was in a zomby movie. It started with this mad drive from some sort of camp ground to a trailer park, where I picked up my wife and children (in real life I am single) and took them in a power boat up river to the safety of the wilderness. After going as far as we could we got out and walked to a shore were we witnessed a larger group of "survivors" trying to organize a defense barrier against the zombies. I was found out by a man who seemed to be their leader when he saw me move my foot. He of course tried to convince us that our best chance for survival was to join thier group. Then I woke up. Weird.

My dreams are typically very detailed and sometimes extremely real.

Shasta also told investigators she and Dylan were repeatedly raped by Duncan at least two camp sites in Montana, according to the handwritten report by an investigator recapping an interview with the girl.

Think he dreams about it and then plays it out later?

[Beelz]

Words at any lenght cannot describe what should happen to this man.

[mofish]

Youre an intellectual Yamori. That scares stupid people.

Anyway, lots of these psychopaths are highly intelligent, and rational. Except for the psychopathic part. To paraphrase Red Dragon.

'Then how did you catch me?'
'You had a disadvantage.'
'What was that?'
'Youre insane.'

[veeneedefeesh]

Can anyone actually think that this man shouldnt be executed? This is the perfect example of someone who is beyond redemption or rehabilitation. Put him out of society's misery. Hell put him out of his own misery. He clearly wants to die "...before I die (soon)..."

He is clearly also quite insane, he will almost definately be convicted of his crimes, but he will serve no prison time, he will be going to a maximum security mental hospital where they will drug him into insensability and leave him in a rubber room until some idiot psychologist decides he has been "Cured" or the money runs out and they classify him as "rehabilitated". At which point they will let him out into a half-way house, he will wander off or maybe even "graduate" from his program, no one will care or remember his crimes, he will stop taking his meds, and do it all again.

Be quick and merciful, but remove him from this earth as you would any other rabid animal.

[Yamori]

You think they'd put him in a mental hospital?

I doubt it.

Reading his blog he clearly is clear minded enough to understand what he is doing.

But I don't know maybe you know more about this than I do... do many serial killers / molesters go to mental hospitals? I haven't heard of this. From what I've read they usually go to prison.

I can only think of one example of a mass murderer going to a mental institution, and he was clearly schizophrenic. (Killed people completely randomly because the voice of his dead father told him to, He defended himself in trial and argued SANITY, that everything was a massive conspiracy against him).

As far as the death penalty, well, HE might be obviously guilty, but there are a lot of people who aren't. There is no way to objectively determine "obviously guilty" to the point that it safely filters out potentially innocent people, since there will always be judges and jurors who are too "trigger happy" in what they determine to be obvious guilt.

Furthermore, I'm sure he'll have a gay old time (literally) while he serves life in prison. Ouch.

[Martrae]

He's been there before....doesn't seem to have phased him much.

[Phlegm]

Idaho and the Death Penalty

Idaho allows the death penalty as an option in cases of first-degree murder and aggravated kidnapping.

The sentence is death by lethal injection or firing squad. Firing squad will be used if lethal injection is deemed "impractical."

Minimum age for death penalty: 16 years

Executions 1930-1976: 3

Executions since 1977: 1

I vote for the firing squad

[veeneedefeesh]

Just the fact that he claims to have "demons" that make him do things to "get even" is a clear indication of schizophrenia. He could almost definately be classified as delusional as well. Or maybe he is crazy like a fox and bloged all that crap to insure he got an insanity plea. Either way I think a firing squad would be in his best interest.

[Yamori]

Hrm, it depends on how he viewed the demons. If he thought they were literal entities, I guess that would be support for him being schizophrenic, but I think the more likely explanation is that these demons were metaphorical. Aspects of himself that he could not control..

He strikes me as a psychopath (who belongs in prison), not as a schizophrenic.

I haven't interviewed him personally though, so this is just speculation based on reading his blog.

[Adivina]

I would vote psychopath not schizophrenic. I think he is making yet another metaphorical reference in the long line of other religious metaphors he makes in his entries.


What a sick fuck though.... what a sick sick fuck. I can't express in words what I feel should happen to this man.

[Martrae]

They've identified the remains they found as little Dylan. I'm absolutely amazed Shasta lived.

[Phlegm]

They've identified the remains they found as little Dylan. I'm absolutely amazed Shasta lived.

He probably kept her alive so he can have sex with her.

[Martrae]

More disturbingly...he probably used the boy until he died and then moved on to the sister.