Hamas

[Ganzo]

...and you know who supports Hamas don't you?

Yes I do, Iran and OBL.

As fas as fair ellection of a guy with a gun, it's on par with ellection with one voting option in old USSR.

[Martrae]

Sorina's writing reminds me of that episode of Friends when Joey has to write a letter of reccomendation, and he uses a thesaurus to look up every word, and even though the words sound smart, the letter sounds really stupid.

Yeah...................

Thank you Kizzy. That was the general idea I was going for when I made my posts.

[Adivina]

Kaha: So malicious, yet I giggle.

[alezrik]

...and you know who supports Hamas don't you?

Yes I do, Iran and OBL.

As fas as fair ellection of a guy with a gun, it's on par with ellection with one voting option in old USSR.

dont forget Israel, they supported Hamas when the PLO was more of a threat.

[Ganzo]

US and UK supported Hitler initialy, so what. Who gives a fuck about shit that hapened years ago. Weare talking NOW

[Ouchyfish]

Liberal, close enough...

[Yamori]

Hamas 4 president!! <3

[mofish]

Democracy will make all the bad people go away.

We need to seriously disassociate ourselves with Israel. We could totally become independent of middle eastern oil, but as long as we remain intertwined with Israel, we will never free ourselves from conflict. Let Israel solve their own problems.

We've delt with former Israeli terrorists, why should it be different for Hamas?

[Ganzo]

Agree 100%. Stop geting involved and Israel will solve the issue in a year.

[Tikker]

or maybe the solution is to nuke israel

then all the arabs would be happy, and they'd stop all the fighting and whatnot

[Ouchyfish]

Shit we might even get a free gas for a decade coupon out of it.

[Kramer]

free gas for a decade coupon



nice. the Israeli desert... now known as GlassTown.... fun for the whole middle eastern family

[Ouchyfish]

[Phlegm]

Israel's respond to Hamas election victory. From cnn:

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Israeli acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called Sunday for a "unified international position" against a Palestinian government that includes an armed group calling for Israel's destruction.

He warned that Israel will not meet with Palestinian officials until Hamas, the militant group that won a landslide victory in last week's parliamentary elections, changes its official stance.

Speaking to his Cabinet about the Hamas victory in last week's legislative elections, Olmert said he spoke over the weekend with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Jordanian King Abdullah II, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

"With all of them I found full support for our position and the principles that we have defined and which form the position of the Israeli government," he said.

Later, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, on a trip to Jerusalem, expressed support for Israel's position.

Olmert said Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni spoke with world leaders as well.

"There is great importance in putting together a unified international position that will make clear to the Palestinians that it is impossible, under any circumstances, to accept a Palestinian Authority that part of it or more than that is an armed organization that calls for the destruction of Israel," he said.

Shaul Mofaz, Israel's defense minister, issued a warning to Hamas, which has claimed responsibility for numerous terrorist attacks.

"Whoever stands at the head of a terror organization and continues to carry out terror attacks against Israel is not immune," Mofaz said. "If the Hamas turns to terror, it will be subject to an unprecedented attack by the state of Israel."

Hamas' victory triggered protests from members of Fatah, the party that has ruled Palestinian politics for four decades. Fatah protesters far outnumbered Palestinian security forces. Clashes also broke out between Fatah and Hamas members.

Conditions have been especially dire in Gaza, which has been gripped by chaos and lawlessness since Israel's historic pullout late last year.

"The developments in the Palestinian Authority are frustrating," said Israeli Cabinet Minister Tzahi Hanegbi. "We see clashes between rivals; we don't see true democracy.

"What we see is that the people gave power to an organization who is responsible for the massacre of hundreds of Israelis, and this does not leave much room for optimism in the next phase of the peace process," Hanegbi said.

The future of Israeli-Palestinian peace efforts is unclear, with both Israel and Hamas insisting there will be no talks until key demands are met.

Mahmoud al-Zahar, the top Hamas official in Gaza, laid out a series of conditions Sunday that he said could lead to years of co-existence alongside Israel. The conditions included Israel's retreating to its pre-1967 borders and releasing Palestinian prisoners.

Israel's political future is also up in the air. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke on January 4 altered the political landscape just as Israel was undergoing a seismic change of its own, with the creation of a new, centrist party led by Sharon.

Kadima -- meaning "forward" -- still hopes to win March elections. But the leader of the right-leaning Likud Party, former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, could see a surge in popularity in the wake of the Hamas victory.

Netanyahu took aim at Olmert on Sunday, saying the acting prime minister's recent decisions to alter a portion of the controversial barrier separating Israel from the West Bank -- moving the barrier closer to one section of a major Israeli highway -- and to give tax revenues to the Palestinian Authority will now have the effect of bolstering Hamas.

"I call on Mr. Olmert to reverse his decisions to give money to the Hamas and to bring the Hamas close to Jerusalem," he said.

But Olmert, the interim head of Kadima, and other party officials deny suggestions that the party is inadequately tough on security.

"We are going to crack down on terrorists by all means," said Avi Dichter, former chief of Israel's Shin Bet secret service and a leading Kadima member.

"Hamas is fully aware of the fact that Israel has the ability, has the capability, has the knowledge and the people and therefore if they decide to go the Iranian channel, I'm not sure that they're going to reach any success," he said.

"I'm sure that they are going to crash after jumping from the cliff."

Israel argues that Iran is heavily supporting Hamas, but Hamas denied the allegation Sunday.

Merkel said Sunday it is "unimaginable" that the European Union will support the Palestinian Authority unless Hamas renounces violence and accepts Israel's right to exist.

At a joint news conference with Olmert after a meeting in Jerusalem, Merkel said the militant group's election victory "means that continued cooperation will only be possible under three conditions: Hamas needs to recognize the existence of Israel; Hamas has to prove that the use of violence is out of the question; and Hamas needs to respect and accept steps in the peace process reached so far.

"This is the position we will take to the European Union and we will make sure that this signal is understood."

The European Union -- like the United States and Israel -- lists Hamas as a terrorist organization. The group has carried out numerous terrorist attacks that have killed hundreds of people. Its charter denies Israel's right to exist and calls for its destruction.

"If they do not accept our conditions they cannot be directly supported financially," Merkel said.

Germany has supported Israel over the years, partly as reparations following the Holocaust.

"There will always be special relationships between Israel and Germany that are resulting out of the Holocaust's singularity," Merkel said.

Merkel has excoriated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for labeling the Holocaust a "myth" and calling for the destruction of Israel. Germany and other European nations share U.S. concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions -- although Tehran denies efforts to build a nuclear weapon.

"Iran is not just a threat to Israel but to all democratic countries in the world," she said.

[Captain Insano]

Woah this tthread trips me out.


I thought hamas was a tasty dip made from beans, but this whole time the dip is made out of terrorist beans.

the fucking madness.

[Kramer]

a tasty dip made from beans.....

classic....

[Minrott]

You mean it's not a traditional scottish dish of sheep entrails?

[Kramer]

[Sorina S]

Not a she. Christ. And he doesn't need to go away, he just needs to stop spouting off one liners without any backup.

It's like if Lyion just started posting at random thoughts like:

"Reagonomics worked you're too blind to see the truth I was there!"

"If you only knew the truth about Iran/Contra there were no weapons Ted Kennedy made Ollie North the fall guy to cover up his dead hooker!"

followed by

"*whine* I don't understand why we can't have a real debate"

Sorina's views are perfectly valid, just Mindia-esque in there complete and total lack of structure and a penchant for putting his hands over his ears and going "NANANANANNANANNANNANANANANANANA"

Good point Minrott, I'll try to put more effort into it.

Oh and it's haggis and hummus. We don't eat terrorists or political parties, not yet anyways.

[Minrott]

lol, I know. It was a joke.

[Sorina S]

No worries Min, just that I've been accused of being bizzaro Mindia and Vonks revenge, just didn't wanna be Idi Amin reincarnate...on this board, anythings possible. Kinda what makes it entertaining eh?

Hummus and pita is good stuff though...^,~

[Ouchyfish]

No worries Min, just that I've been accused of being bizzaro Mindia and Vonks revenge, just didn't wanna be Idi Amin reincarnate...on this board, anythings possible. Kinda what makes it entertaining eh?

Hummus and pita is good stuff though...^,~

Yeah about as entertaining as one of them homeless psychotics stumbling around New York.

[Jay]

I miss Uggmo.

[Minrott]

The only thing I miss about Uggmo is the prolific use of "jerkwater" otherwise everything else is just weed.

[Captain Insano]

Not a she. Christ. And he doesn't need to go away, he just needs to stop spouting off one liners without any backup.

It's like if Lyion just started posting at random thoughts like:

"Reagonomics worked you're too blind to see the truth I was there!"

"If you only knew the truth about Iran/Contra there were no weapons Ted Kennedy made Ollie North the fall guy to cover up his dead hooker!"

followed by

"*whine* I don't understand why we can't have a real debate"

Sorina's views are perfectly valid, just Mindia-esque in there complete and total lack of structure and a penchant for putting his hands over his ears and going "NANANANANNANANNANNANANANANANANA"

Good point Minrott, I'll try to put more effort into it.

Oh and it's haggis and hummus. We don't eat terrorists or political parties, not yet anyways.

Oh