Eagles

[Evermore]

finally got a creditable WR. who you guys pick in the east thisw year>?


and just for the record..


Fuck Dallas and Fuck the redskins thx

[Griever]

Dante Stallworth is a credible WR?

[Lyion]

The Skins look terrible in the preseason. The Giant D looks good. So does the Eagle D.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say:

11-5 Dallas
9-7 Eagles
9-7 Giants
6-10 Skins

However, you could take any team in the East and put them in any spot and it really wouldn't surprise me. That's the toughest division in football, except perhaps the AFC North.

[mofish]

Eagles fans will fall in love with Dante the first time he takes one to the house with his speed.

The frustration will build, slowly but surely, every time he drops an easy 3rd down reception that hits him in his hands.

I like Dante, but I wasnt sad to see him go. If the Eagles can teach him how to catch, more power to him. But the guy is in his 4th or 5th year, dont think the hands are gonna get any better.

[Evermore]

he is more creditable then anything the eagles have at the moment. They need the speed at WR they don't have any atm. Pinkston needs to be traded imo the few new guys they picked up have good hands but no breakaway speed.

[Phlegm]

The Eagles can alway trade for Branch.

[Lyion]

he is more creditable then anything the eagles have at the moment. They need the speed at WR they don't have any atm. Pinkston needs to be traded imo the few new guys they picked up have good hands but no breakaway speed.

Stallworth ain't gonna be running away from Smoot or Newman. He's a credible deep threat, but there's a reason N.O. got rid of him. It's a good gamble, but in the East, I doubt it'll do much.

The Eagles should've spent the coin and nabbed Branch from the Pats. He's a deep threat with good hands. Philly's problem is they have the worst owners in the division, and don't spend the coin to get over the hump. They backed into the Super Bowl two years ago, but won't be back anytime soon, especially playing Gibbs, Parcells, and Coughlin led teams twice a year.

[Evermore]

gibbs isnt going to do shit this year and i agree with your that lurie is too fucking cheap to get branch. been one of my main complaints about the birds for years.

[Griever]

gibbs isnt going to do shit this year and i agree with your that lurie is too fucking cheap to get branch. been one of my main complaints about the birds for years.

You're just basing this off of the preseason?

The Skins went 1-3 in the preseason last year by the way.

Oh and currently the Steelers are 0-3 aswell.

[Evermore]

no i am basing that on the skins overall performace over the last few seasons and the fact the 1st string offense has looked like crap thru the preseason. they had a decient year last year ( 10 - 6 ) but remember they really didnt have any solid competition in their division excl the giants. Year before ( 6-10 ) year before that ( 5-11) year before that (7-9).

[Lyion]

There are no gimme wins in the East. That said, the Skins absolutely look terrible in the preseason. Mark Brunell looks just horrid. Their offense needs to do a 180, and quick.

[Griever]

no i am basing that on the skins overall performace over the last few seasons and the fact the 1st string offense has looked like crap thru the preseason. they had a decient year last year ( 10 - 6 ) but remember they really didnt have any solid competition in their division excl the giants. Year before ( 6-10 ) year before that ( 5-11) year before that (7-9).

And the years before that the Eagles went to the playoffs 3 straight times because of a soft NFC East. You could expect 6 wins from the division because we had sorry coaches like Jim Fassel, Dave Campo and Norv Turner/Steve Spurrier.
Andy Reid outclassed them then, but is now outclassed.

Redskins stats from last season...

Total Offense: 11th
Total Defense: 9th

Division record: 5-1
Conference record: 10-2

2006 Strength of Schedule: 3rd in the NFC East
(Giants have the toughest, then Eagles, Skins, Cowboys.)

You can honestly say that with the way the Redskins performed last season and with some of the pick ups from the offseason, that they will just fall to the bottom of the NFC East?

Bullshit.

[Evermore]

no i am basing that on the skins overall performace over the last few seasons and the fact the 1st string offense has looked like crap thru the preseason. they had a decient year last year ( 10 - 6 ) but remember they really didnt have any solid competition in their division excl the giants. Year before ( 6-10 ) year before that ( 5-11) year before that (7-9).

And the years before that the Eagles went to the playoffs 3 straight times because of a soft NFC East. You could expect 6 wins from the division because we had sorry coaches like Jim Fassel, Dave Campo and Norv Turner/Steve Spurrier.
Andy Reid outclassed them then, but is now outclassed.

Redskins stats from last season...

Total Offense: 11th
Total Defense: 9th

Division record: 5-1
Conference record: 10-2

2006 Strength of Schedule: 3rd in the NFC East
(Giants have the toughest, then Eagles, Skins, Cowboys.)

You can honestly say that with the way the Redskins performed last season and with some of the pick ups from the offseason, that they will just fall to the bottom of the NFC East?

Bullshit.

A "soft NFC east" doesn't speak to the FACT that they also won the NFC championship and/or appeared in the championship game each of those years. Winning the division in the manner you are trying to hold up would mean the eagles would suck in the playoffs. Funny that they didn't. Please stop trying to hold up 1 good season in 10 years as a "total turnaround". Face it the skins havent done shit since Doug Williams was QB. What is that telling you? You can start saying turn around IF they do better then 10 and 6 this year.



3rd toughest is the 2nd weakest. they will fall to the bottom because they will have a shitty divisional record. they will lose 1/2 their divisional games.

Andy Reid outclassed? dude wake up your dreaming. Gibbs has had his prime already, he isnt Dick Vermeil bud.



oh and fuck the steelers, no way they repeat this year

[Griever]

Gibbs is and always will be a better coach than Andy Reid. You will not see Reid enter the Hall of Fame because he went to 3 straight conference games and failed to win the Super Bowl.

[Evermore]

YOu are entitled to your fantasies

[Lyion]

Gibbs is not the same man he was 20 years ago. He runs a Nascar team and is involved in a lot of other things.

Also, the NFL is much more competitive than it was before.

I think Andy Reid is a good coach, but I think a lot of success is being in the right place at the right time.

[Evermore]

Eagles Bring Back A.J. Feeley
Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:42 PM EDT
The Associated Press


PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The Philadelphia Eagles brought back quarterback A.J. Feeley on Wednesday and released quarterback Koy Detmer and receiver Todd Pinkston.

The signing of Feeley, released earlier this week by San Diego, completes a profitable cycle for Philadelphia.

The Eagles originally drafted him in the fifth round in 2001 and he started five games in 2002, leading the team to four wins when Donovan McNabb and Detmer were both sidelined with injuries.

He was traded to Miami after the 2003 season for a second-round draft pick that the Eagles subsequently used to pick wide receiver Reggie Brown, currently a starter. Now they get him back without surrendering a player or a pick.

Pinkston, entering his seventh season, appeared to be on his way out when the Eagles traded for receiver Donte Stallworth on Tuesday.

Pinkston missed last year with a torn Achilles' tendon and battled soreness in both ankles during training camp. He caught one pass for 4 yards in the preseason.

Detmer had spent the last nine seasons with the Eagles, but the team signed Jeff Garcia in the offseason to be McNabb' insurance policy.

Boot time. Letting pinkston go that is. what a waste of a pick.

[Griever]

Gibbs is not the same man he was 20 years ago. He runs a Nascar team and is involved in a lot of other things.

Also, the NFL is much more competitive than it was before.

I think Andy Reid is a good coach, but I think a lot of success is being in the right place at the right time.

Technically, his son runs Joe Gibbs Racing now, not Gibbs.

[Evermore]

Lyion is still correct. Gibbs isnt the man he was 20 years ago

[Tikker]

current gibbs is still better than current andy reid

[Evermore]

that has yet to be proven

[Griever]

I don't get why you are so down on Joe Gibbs. He turned a piece of shit team led by Steve Spurrier into a playoff team.

Yes he went 6-10 the first season, but what do you expect for the first year of a newly rebuilt team? When Joe Gibbs first came to Washington he had a losing season then began his Hall of Fame career.

Andy Reid benefitted from a very soft NFC Conference. We'll see this season if he has what it takes to compete in a stronger division and conference.

[Lyion]

current gibbs is still better than current andy reid

How can you tell, when the team he's on has 87 other head coaches on their roster, and spends more on their team than the US Army has in Iraq?

[Evermore]

i dont understand why you are so up on Gibbs? He had one good season since his return and you act like he is the 2nd comming. Dude both Dallas and the birds were severely hampered by injuries and there wasnt much competition in the east last year. So in fact Washington "benefitted from a soft NFC east" and proceeded to completely suck in the playoffs.

You keep trying to claim that reid benefitted from a "soft NFC east" yet they have went farther in the post season then washington has in 15 years. if they were so bad that the only reason they won the division is because the rest of the teams sucked, wouldnt it stand to reason they would suck in the playoffs?


Oh and when Joe Gibbs 1st came to the skins it was the earily '80's Football is much different now. We'll also see how good the skins turn out when they have some actual competition.

[Griever]

They went 10-2 in the NFC as a whole, which was not a weak conference.

current gibbs is still better than current andy reid

How can you tell, when the team he's on has 87 other head coaches on their roster, and spends more on their team than the US Army has in Iraq?

That is exactly why Joe Gibbs is great. He is a personel person. He knows how to build an organization with people who mesh well together. He knows what has to be done to make a team successful. He is only using the same formula he used his first go around.

And the only people who care about how much the Redskins spend are the people who's owner are too stingy to put every penny they can into their team.