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Postby leah » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:11 pm

they're seriously going to hang him? doesn't that seem kind of archaic?
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Postby Bodin » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:13 pm

His rule was archaic, only fitting they hang the SOB.
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Postby Gargamellow » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:38 pm

He requested that he be executed before a firing squad and not hanged if he was found guilty. I think this is HILARIOUS. Giving him exactly what he DIDN'T want.

Saddam Hussein requests firing squad if sentenced to death

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Published: 26 July 2006
A thinner but combative Saddam Hussein appeared in court in Baghdad today for the first time since his hunger strike and hospital stay, complaining that he had been brought against his will and rejecting the tribunal as an agent of the US occupation.

"I was brought against my will directly from the hospital," Saddam told the chief judge. "The Americans insisted that I come against my will. This is not fair."

He asked the court to execute him by firing squad - "not by hanging as a common criminal" - if it convicts him of all charges and sentences him to death.

As the session began in the US-controlled Green Zone, the ousted president was allowed to make a statement, beginning with a verse from the Koran, in which he challenged the validity and impartiality of the court which could sentence him to death by hanging.

Saddam and seven co-defendants have been on trial since October 19 in the killing and torture of Shiites in Dujail following a 1982 assassination attempt against him there. The prosecution has asked for the death penalty for Saddam and two of the seven others.

"I ask you being an Iraqi person that if you reach a verdict of death, execution, remember that I am a military man and should be killed by firing squad and not by hanging as a common criminal," Saddam said.

Chief Judge Raouf Abdel-Rahman reminded Saddam that the trial was still under way and that the court had not reached a verdict. Executions in Iraq are normally by hanging.

Saddam then repeated a theme he has voiced since the start of the trial - that the panel is an illegal instrument of the American occupation and is unjust.

"If you were a real Iraqi, you would know that your country is going through extraordinary conditions," Saddam said.

"We not only resist this occupation. We do not acknowledge it. We do not acknowledge all the decisions it has made, including appointing the so-called government and this court you represent."

Abdel-Rahman interrupted him, telling him: "You were not brought here against your will. Here's the medical report .. and it indicates that you are in good shape."

"I didn't say I was ill," Saddam snapped back. "I was on a hunger strike."

He was last in court on June 19 when chief prosecutor Jaafar al-Moussawi asked the court to impose the death penalty on the former ruler and two others. He was rushed to hospital on Sunday on the 17th day of a hunger strike launched to protest the trial and demand better security for the defence team.

The hunger strike and the lawyers' boycott followed last month's kidnap-killing of defence attorney Khamis al-Obeidi, the third defence attorney killed since the trial began. The defence has accused Shiite militias for the killing.

During his remarks, Saddam also objected to having a court-appointed attorney deliver the summation on his behalf. The replacement was appointed after the regular defence team boycotted the proceedings, claiming bias by the court and to press demands for better security after the assassination of three of its members.

"Where are your lawyers," the judge asked.

"They're staying abroad in front of the TV screens and inciting violence. Those are lawyers? Having millions of dinars? Listen Saddam Hussein, your lawyers have millions of dinars and are inciting violence."

As the court-appointed lawyer began to speak, Saddam interrupted him.

"You are my enemy. Who appointed you?" he asked.

"I challenge you to read this on your own. He probably didn't even write this. The American agent, the spy probably wrote this for him."

During the summation, the court-appointed lawyer, whose identity was kept secret for security reasons, said the documents and witnesses presented by the prosecution did not tie Saddam personally to any killings and torture of the Dujail Shiites.

"Instead they refer to 'Saddam the tyrant,' 'Saddam the killer' ... and such references that reflect being written by people who are not impartial," the lawyer said.

"The documents lack any details when it comes to a specific role for Saddam in Dujail in 1982. There is no proof that when he was president he visited Dujail after the assassination attempt. there's no proof he was there when the detentions happened," the lawyer added.

With Saddam, the court has heard six of the eight final summations. After the final one is presented, the court will adjourn to consider a verdict, possibly in mid-August.

Saddam is due to stand trial on 21 August in a second case - the bloody crackdown on Iraqi Kurds in the 1980s.

A thinner but combative Saddam Hussein appeared in court in Baghdad today for the first time since his hunger strike and hospital stay, complaining that he had been brought against his will and rejecting the tribunal as an agent of the US occupation.

"I was brought against my will directly from the hospital," Saddam told the chief judge. "The Americans insisted that I come against my will. This is not fair."

He asked the court to execute him by firing squad - "not by hanging as a common criminal" - if it convicts him of all charges and sentences him to death.

As the session began in the US-controlled Green Zone, the ousted president was allowed to make a statement, beginning with a verse from the Koran, in which he challenged the validity and impartiality of the court which could sentence him to death by hanging.

Saddam and seven co-defendants have been on trial since October 19 in the killing and torture of Shiites in Dujail following a 1982 assassination attempt against him there. The prosecution has asked for the death penalty for Saddam and two of the seven others.

"I ask you being an Iraqi person that if you reach a verdict of death, execution, remember that I am a military man and should be killed by firing squad and not by hanging as a common criminal," Saddam said.

Chief Judge Raouf Abdel-Rahman reminded Saddam that the trial was still under way and that the court had not reached a verdict. Executions in Iraq are normally by hanging.

Saddam then repeated a theme he has voiced since the start of the trial - that the panel is an illegal instrument of the American occupation and is unjust.

"If you were a real Iraqi, you would know that your country is going through extraordinary conditions," Saddam said.

"We not only resist this occupation. We do not acknowledge it. We do not acknowledge all the decisions it has made, including appointing the so-called government and this court you represent."

Abdel-Rahman interrupted him, telling him: "You were not brought here against your will. Here's the medical report .. and it indicates that you are in good shape."

"I didn't say I was ill," Saddam snapped back. "I was on a hunger strike."

He was last in court on June 19 when chief prosecutor Jaafar al-Moussawi asked the court to impose the death penalty on the former ruler and two others. He was rushed to hospital on Sunday on the 17th day of a hunger strike launched to protest the trial and demand better security for the defence team.
The hunger strike and the lawyers' boycott followed last month's kidnap-killing of defence attorney Khamis al-Obeidi, the third defence attorney killed since the trial began. The defence has accused Shiite militias for the killing.

During his remarks, Saddam also objected to having a court-appointed attorney deliver the summation on his behalf. The replacement was appointed after the regular defence team boycotted the proceedings, claiming bias by the court and to press demands for better security after the assassination of three of its members.

"Where are your lawyers," the judge asked.

"They're staying abroad in front of the TV screens and inciting violence. Those are lawyers? Having millions of dinars? Listen Saddam Hussein, your lawyers have millions of dinars and are inciting violence."

As the court-appointed lawyer began to speak, Saddam interrupted him.

"You are my enemy. Who appointed you?" he asked.

"I challenge you to read this on your own. He probably didn't even write this. The American agent, the spy probably wrote this for him."

During the summation, the court-appointed lawyer, whose identity was kept secret for security reasons, said the documents and witnesses presented by the prosecution did not tie Saddam personally to any killings and torture of the Dujail Shiites.

"Instead they refer to 'Saddam the tyrant,' 'Saddam the killer' ... and such references that reflect being written by people who are not impartial," the lawyer said.

"The documents lack any details when it comes to a specific role for Saddam in Dujail in 1982. There is no proof that when he was president he visited Dujail after the assassination attempt. there's no proof he was there when the detentions happened," the lawyer added.

With Saddam, the court has heard six of the eight final summations. After the final one is presented, the court will adjourn to consider a verdict, possibly in mid-August.

Saddam is due to stand trial on 21 August in a second case - the bloody crackdown on Iraqi Kurds in the 1980s.




Fuck that fucking piece of dogshit. I never believed in killing people for their crimes before I started posting here. Thanks you guys, for opening up my eyes and making me a blood thirsty murderess.
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Postby Evermore » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:40 pm

they should cut off his head on video while he is alive and post it
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Postby Gargamellow » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:41 pm

omg LOL
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Postby Jay » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:43 pm

They should lethal inject him and get it over with. Delivering cruel punishment to him is doing what we sentenced him to death for.
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Postby leah » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:46 pm

see, that's my point. why go with some archaic means of execution, in which he would suffer painfully and publicly, when that is exactly the kind of thing for which he's being punished? i guess i just don't believe in the whole "eye for an eye" schtick. death by lethal injection isn't enough of a death for you?
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Postby Bodin » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:51 pm

Pay per view, let Mike Tyson eat him spoonfull by spoonfull and the money goes to charity np.
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Postby Gargamellow » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:52 pm

Maybe you will in ten years or so after you have observed the real world for a while.
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Postby Arlos » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:52 pm

Actually, I think hanging is still a legal method of execution in 1 or 2 states in the US, or was until recently. I know Utah still allows death by firing squad, or did until very recently.

Hey, at least they don't use the execution method still used in Saudi Arabia. There, they behead you.

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Postby Gargamellow » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:53 pm

lol arlos
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Postby Martrae » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:54 pm

Because in their culture only poor nobodies are hung.

By hanging him in such a common way, they are removing the image of him as powerful and a leader in the minds of the Iraqi people. It will also make it harder for him to be seen as a martyr.
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Postby Evermore » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:54 pm

leah wrote:see, that's my point. why go with some archaic means of execution, in which he would suffer painfully and publicly, when that is exactly the kind of thing for which he's being punished? i guess i just don't believe in the whole "eye for an eye" schtick. death by lethal injection isn't enough of a death for you?


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They believe in and eye for an eye there. Thieves have their hands cut off etc. it just fits with the society. Sides he got convicted for 150 out of what? Thousands?

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Postby Gargamellow » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:55 pm

hell ya, mart..good point
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Postby Gaazy » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:06 pm

Actually, i think they should crucify him. That would be cool to see.
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Postby Gargamellow » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:09 pm

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Postby Xaiveir » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:34 pm

Iccarra wrote:To the pain....




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Postby Xaiveir » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:37 pm

Princess Bride
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Westley: It won't be the last. To the pain means the first thing you will lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists. Next your nose.
Prince Humperdinck: And then my tongue I suppose, I killed you too quickly the last time. A mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight.
Westley: I wasn't finished. The next thing you will lose will be your left eye followed by your right.
Prince Humperdinck: And then my ears, I understand let's get on with it.
Westley: WRONG. Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, "Dear God! What is that thing," will echo in your perfect ears. That is what to the pain means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.
Prince Humperdinck: I think your bluffing.
Westley: It's possible, Pig, I might be bluffing. It's conceivable, you miserable, vomitous mass, that I'm only lying here because I lack the strength to stand. But, then again... perhaps I have the strength after all.
[slowly rises and points sword directly at the prince]
Westley: DROP... YOUR... SWORD!



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