Martrae wrote:Diekan wrote:You people are not exactly the role models for quality relationships... here you are mail ordering relationships, still dealing with the scars of previous relationships, have never even had a relationship, finally gets a relationship and allows their ego to swell, doesn't even read the posts in their entirety. And you all want to lecture ME on the ins and outs.
You can't say any of that about me. Kahar and I will be married 10 years next spring. My ego has been battered enough by life to reduce any swelling there may have been there and I've read every post in this thread.
Diekan, you focus too much on the stuff that changes and not enough on the inner core of the women you're dating. You may find a hot little momma now but even if she maintains her figure she'll still age, get wrinkles, grey hair the whole shebang. What will you do then? Dump her for a newer model? The 'good' women avoid you because they know you're too shallow to make a relationship last past the first laugh line.
I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about those members of the "Sisterhood of the Tampon" who came running here frothing at the mouth declaring war on anyone who dares point out the obvious... that women are fucked in the head and are no more masters of love and or relationships than the men they use to get what they want.
Again, women like Gyps and the like have no place to judge someone else's relationship values. Yet here she is floundering in her attempts to put me down - like she actually knows me or something - which is borderline laughable at best.
This the last time I am going to say this...
Over the past two or so years I have been out with roughly 100 different women. Doctors, teachers, nurses, secretaries, physical fitness trainers, bankers, waitresses, whatever... out of those hundred I have only boned MAYBE 45 to 50 of them.
I haven't always been adversed to *settling down,* but I like to fuck. It's that simple. I am not going to turn away a good time to maintain some ridiculous sense of purity while I wait for the *right* one.
I have met women at the gym, the grocery store, my bank, at the club(s), hell even picked up a few from MySpace back in the day. However - with every single one of them... yes EVERY SINGLE one of them I was up front and honest. If I thought they were relationship material I took it slow and spent time with them until one of us decided it wasn't to be. If I didn't feel the chemistry, but still wanted to nail them - I told them as much. "You're a lot of fun, beautiful and intelligent, but I'm sure if we'd make a lasting couple. If you're still interested in seeing each other on a more casual basis, cool, if not I understand." That's all it takes. Some of them were down with that, some weren't. I held no grudges toward those who weren't. I had a lot of good times with those who were. But, I have never once lied, or intentionally made empty promises to anyone just get to some action. You don't have to. There are plenty of them out there who are perfectly fine with being your "friend with benefits." I see no need in ruining the moral, or crushing the heart of someone just so that I can bust a nut.
When I take someone out for a date, I always hold the door, let them order first, listen to them, treat them with respect and dignity. What I do not do is call them 10 times a day, or follow them around like a lost Harrison. What I do not do is cancel pre-made plans with the *guys* or other plans I had already made otherwise for a date. I expect the same from them. I expect them to have their own set of friends and their own lives, to come and go as they see fit, to do as they see fit. If and when the time came for us to become more serious, then I applied certain expectations - just as she would.
I will say that out of all those women 99% of them came with emotional baggage. 99% of them came into the *relationship* not knowing what they really wanted in the end. You cannot sit there and tell me that out of all those women, from all different walks of life, with different upbringings, different background - that my assessment of women generally being some what fucked in the head doesn't hold water.
My initial bitching in this post was that women are exponentially more sinister with their intentions then men. They'll play your emotions, play on your sense of trust, play on your desires to get what they want. Whether [it] is a month's of free rent, helping you pay her bills, helping her get over a past relationship, or simply getting her off... [it] is irrelevant. Most of the men I know, including myself, do not do this. We see no need in playing with her needs, weaknesses, emotions just to fuck her.
You women sit around and bitch, cry and moan about how shitty men treat you. Then you find one who's willing to lay out for you, who's willing to allow you into his world, who's willing to open his trust to you and what do you do? You look him in eye one minute, tell him how much you love him, then 10 minutes later you off flirting with the next cute guy that pays you any attention. Then you dump him when something *better* comes along.
I've seen it time and time again. It's happened to me, it's happened to other males on this board - they know who they are.
Women do this because they know deep down inside they've got the power. ESPECIALLY if they're attractive. They know they can walk into a room and have 10 phone numbers within an hour... and they know that their male counterparts (unless said male happens to be Brad Pitt) probably can't even get 1 number in that same hour. They don't care if they hurt your or not, because there's 40 other men just waiting to take your place - and they know it.
Today's woman is self serving, materialistic and very superficial. They'll not hesitate to destroy you if it will help them achieve their ends. And, they won't lose one wink of sleep in doing it.
Now, before Leah comes here and starts screaming about me generalizing. Of course there are women out there who aren't like this, who are honest, who seek real stability. But, by and large the vast majority of women out there are psycho to one degree or another.
Is this too hard for you to understand?
Gyps will learn soon enough what it's like to be used... soon as her AUSSIE gets what he wants. But, right now she's too high and mighty, too busy preaching to everyone else to see it coming.