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bah I said I thought of doing it Not that I did.

Oh and today is the most useless waste of time day ever. Finished the test in like 10 mins ><

My husband calls it Tae Kwon Doodoo (childish, I know) and all the people from his school (Kung Fu) laugh at it.
He agrees with whoever posted, saying it was all a show. It is.

Where I took it, shit was serious, I don't understand the insults being flung at it.

I guess seeing people break fucking cement made me realize they were not fucking around? Or the first time I saw blood start gushing fucking everywhere during a match, or even when I watched a kid break the ceiling with a punching bag. I dunno, I remember doing reps until my knuckles were bleeding and training until I collapsed.... maybe it is pussified today.

Darcler wrote:My husband calls it Tae Kwon Doodoo (childish, I know) and all the people from his school (Kung Fu) laugh at it.
He agrees with whoever posted, saying it was all a show. It is.

It depends on how seriously you take it.

I have a friend that has studied Tae Kwon Do and many other martial arts over the last 25 years. He teaches Tae Kwon Do and various weapon styles and is extremely disciplined. I've watched his competitions and seen him in action when confronted with violence. He is NOT all show and uses what he has learned every day on the job as a police officer.

The cement breaking is show.
Any martial art you train in, you will get bloody from the training, so its not special.

Anyway, I'm not one to judge, I havent trained in anything, thats just what Gid has brainwashed into me.

Darcler wrote:The cement breaking is show.
Any martial art you train in, you will get bloody from the training, so its not special.

Anyway, I'm not one to judge, I havent trained in anything, thats just what Gid has brainwashed into me.

That board and cement smashing shit is just show business... my friends school doesn't do that stuff.

I've been thinking about geting into some sort of martial arts for a stress release, dunno what kind to do though

It is show, but the point is if you can break a piece of cement, I won't fuck with ya. LOL. Board breaking is pretty much all show too, but its good for building confidence with the younger children taking the art. Makes them feel like they have accomplished something tangible.

Its not that people dont take it seriously training. I know i did, and got alot out of it. But after taking other marial arts, it is really a useless fighting style for multiple reasons.

First off, it has little to no grappling in it. It is mainly comprised (its strengths) of kicks. While kicks are great for offense, it does nothing for your defense. Anyone with the ability to dodge a kick, and get inside on someone that is using tae kwon do is toast. The punching taught has little affect, and you can get much better punching from going to a boxing class.

Minus having any real sort of grappling in the TWD is its major downfall, the majority of martial arts will own someone of the equal rank in TWD because of this. That is why you will see very few if any people of TWD compete in UFC or any mixed martial arts fighting, because so many styles will completely overwhelm it.

As far as your police officer friend, im sure he is a badass. TWD can be lethal, but his background in police work probably helped him out. In police academy they teach a for of Ju Jitsu grappling. That is most likely what he is using when confronted with violence, as it is a much better form to deal with it.

Dont get me wrong here, there are some serious ass kickers out there that has taken TWD. However for the majority of people out there, its a showman discipline. TWD is not effective at all against other martial arts, and against people that know how to defend themselves.

In fact i had a friend that trained with me in TWD. He had been training for 9 years, top of his class. He spared my friend that had been taking boxing for a year. The boxer beat him, because he knew how to defend.

I want to get back in to martial arts too. It's a great workout if nothing else.

I want to find an Aikido school I think... that or Wing Chun.

Mop wrote:I've been thinking about geting into some sort of martial arts for a stress release, dunno what kind to do though

Kung Fu or Tai Chi (i'll be taking this as soon as we can find a good school)

There's a video on the internet of Royce Gracie fighting an undefeated Tae Kwon Do badass. Gracie gets him into a grapple and beats the living shit out of him. If you get hit at distance, you're fucked. If you get inside on them, most of them don't know wtf they're doing.

Yeah, I don't argue that it's the most powerful style. He has studied many other forms over the years but has stayed commited to Tae Kwon Do. He travelled to Korea and trained sword style, etc with masters there for some time, spent 14 years in the military and is no doubt the most badass motherfucker I know personally. He got his "black belt" when he was 16 but that's really where the training started. Everything up to that was cake. I think he is currently a 4th degree black belt.

Drem u whiner.

Hiya Taxx...good to see you posting again.

Darcler wrote:

Mop wrote:I've been thinking about geting into some sort of martial arts for a stress release, dunno what kind to do though

Kung Fu or Tai Chi (i'll be taking this as soon as we can find a good school)

I have ANOTHER friend that is a Tai Chi master. He is a professor at the school I used to work at. He has been teaching Tai Chi for 35+ years. I was really impressed with the "non violent" aspect of the form. Noone can touch him and they don't even get hurt trying, just really frustrated and embarassed from picking themselves up off the ground over and over again.

wang chung?

Tai Chi is a great form of fighting, all defense little offense. If you want to take a style for defense thats the way to go. A good balanced martial art form is ju jitsu, it has good aspects of both offense and defense.

Greco roman grappling is another good form to take. Aikido is another type of martial art that has little to no value from a reality stand point. It grew in fame from Steven Segal, even though in his movies he is using multiple types of martial arts. While in theory being able to break people bones is great, (wich is what aikido is famous for) it is difficult to actually do. That takes years upon years to become good at, so its not something i would recommend someone getting into if self defense is your primary objective.

Tossica wrote:

Darcler wrote:The cement breaking is show.
Any martial art you train in, you will get bloody from the training, so its not special.

Anyway, I'm not one to judge, I havent trained in anything, thats just what Gid has brainwashed into me.

That board and cement smashing shit is just show business... my friends school doesn't do that stuff.

I think Bruce Lee said it best: "Boards.... don't hit back.".

I have a black belt i Tae Kwon Do and and one step away from black in Karate. That shit is next to useless in a street/bar fight.

Jujitsu and boxing/kickboxing are much more effective. if you take a combination of the two you will be a serious badass when it comes to fighting for real.

That board breaking, tournament fighting shit is a load of crap and useless on the street. End of story.

Tai Chi, at my husbands school he taught at, was taught by a 5'2, 8 or 9 month pregnant lady. He says that noone wanted to fight her, not because she was so far long, but because they would lose bad.

Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Aikido is another type of martial art that has little to no value from a reality stand point. It grew in fame from Steven Segal, even though in his movies he is using multiple types of martial arts. While in theory being able to break people bones is great, (wich is what aikido is famous for) it is difficult to actually do. That takes years upon years to become good at, so its not something i would recommend someone getting into if self defense is your primary objective.

Um, I studied Aikido for several years and not once did I hear anyone talk about breaking bones. In fact, if your opponent knows what they are doing, they are likely to remain unhurt, and just get fatigued and eventually give up. If you don't know when to realize you need to back off and keep trying though, you will get quite hurt.

Aikido is a defensive martial art. It's all about using your opponents own momentum against them. Generally you just just sort of send them flying or twist their body in such an uncomfortable way they fall or withdraw. The head of the school where I studied, Boulder Aikikai, was incredible. He was this tiny Japanese guy who looked like he couldn't hurt a flee, but even the other instructors couldn't land a thing on him. The most amazing part was how little effort he looked like he put into anything. He was so relaxed doing the moves and made the tiniest movements that sent the instructors flying across the room.

Aikido isn't supposed to kick anyone's ass. It's supposed to prevent you from gettings yours kicked. I took some tai chi classes and to be honest it had a bit of a similar feel to it.

Oh and I have only seen a couple Steven Segal movies (and over 10 yeras ago at that probably), but while he may have been trained in Aikido or something, what I remember seeing him doing was not traditional Aikido at all.

I am by no means an Aikido expert. I would have liked to stick with it but I didn't. So don't take anything I say as Aikido doctrine, it's just my personal experience.

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Tossica wrote:

Darcler wrote:The cement breaking is show.
Any martial art you train in, you will get bloody from the training, so its not special.

Anyway, I'm not one to judge, I havent trained in anything, thats just what Gid has brainwashed into me.

That board and cement smashing shit is just show business... my friends school doesn't do that stuff.

I think Bruce Lee said it best: "Boards.... don't hit back.".

I have a black belt i Tae Kwon Do and and one step away from black in Karate. That shit is next to useless in a street/bar fight.
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Learn Akido before you talk shit. It coupled with Kung Fu is a nice combo that gives you a lot of knowledge. Street fighting is still greater than yuppies learning how to kick or throw prettily.

Funniest memory of a street fight was this Marine we used to hang out with from Pendleton who had 5 black belts. He was talking shit, when one of the Team guys with no training oustide of the military sucker punched him and knocked his ass out.

The guys who are badass aren't the ones with black belts galore, or oodles of training. It's the guys who've seen the shit, and are cool under fire. Toss's cop friend is a great example. He is in the shit, and from experience probably has icewater in his veins. Those are the dangerous people.

Mop, I've heard boxing training is brutal, and a great way to get into shape. I'd be curious what your thoughts on it are.

The only form I took for any length of time was Shotokan. Very hard style. Conflicts were meant to be ended in one block and counterattack. Incapacitate your opponent as quickly as possible. Block - Kick to groin, block - punch to throat, block - kick to kneecap, etc.

I took shotokan for about 5 years but that was a long time ago and remember very little from it.

as for boxing, lately I have been working out with a guy that is a boxer here in baltimore used to be semi pro now he just boxes 2 or 3 times a year but trains all year long. Running 10 miles is easier than an hour wit htis guy.

Most work outs we have done together are based on 3 min intervals.

first we start with 3 min jump ropes ( go until you can't go anymore or 3 min is up. If you have to stop you do up back and around the room drills til the 3 min is up) rest for a min then start over again.

Next we do heavy bag work usually 3 min intervals with the min break being target gloves ( usually around this point my hr is aroun 195 by the time we finish)

Usually we finish with hand drill and more jumprope. the shit is brutal but it is fun and makes the time go by so fast, which has kinda sparked my intrest in goinbg back and doing another martial art.

I think i worded my response on Aikido alittle wrong. So ill rephrase alittle (not enough coffee in yet to get a real good thought out!). Aikido was made famous because of steven segal. People were under the impression that if they take it they will be trained to break peoples bones multiple ways, because after all, thats what Steven Segal did.

From a reality standpoint that is not what aikido is about. Its about using your oponents movements against them. I had multiple friends that got into Aikido for the Steven Segal reason, and were very dissapointed. That is why i said that, that is what aikido is famous for. You can take the moves in aikido and manipulate them into being able to seriously injure your opponent ala Segal, but it is highly frowned upon from anyone that really takes aikido.

Boxing training isnt necessarily brutal, so much as just grueling (there is a difference!). It is a great way to get into shape, and learn some sort of defense. Be prepared to get your ass kicked the first couple of days though. Most boxing instructors will tear the hell out of you in the first week to see what you are made of. If you make through the first week, they know you are for real and want to train for real.