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I'm hoping that if the new Alliance race is Pandarians, that'll keep a good many of the jackasses on the Alliance side.

I can just imagine the gen chat there... "OMG I"M SOOOOOOO CUUUUTE! BLIZZARD IS KEWL!!!1"

We aren't all like that... :-(

where's the <3

yes you are

Not trying to be argumentative here, but one of the values you have always stood behind was that a person should think about what is best for the guild. If that means hitting MC a thousand times to make sure everyone has adequate armor to be able to go to the next level of fighting, then why wouldn't you? Unless, as you said before you only consider those in your raiding group your "guild" but then why do you have to carry a Wanderers tag?

You don't know our guild situation so I won't bother to explain it. All the people in raid group 1 have almost all what they want or need. I'm not a leader or officer. I'm not in control over what we do or do not do. As a whole we're outfitted better than the rest of the Horde on our server.

maybe they'll just add a new 61+ talent tree to every class, and the points you get after 60 only can go into that tree.. like AA's kinda, run speed 3 ftw!!

imo I like the lvl cap for a couple reasons.

1 - if they add in new 70 content yay~

2- I think it has the possiblity of making ppl actually *gasp* different where they can break up their trees now a little bit more. Along with that there are supposed to be 10 more points added to talents.

3- im sick of MC?

4- Your gear wont suck huge ass at 70 - more than likely it will be fine til you start hitting lvl 70 raid zones.

Its not like you are going from 60 to 70 in all greens your in mostly epics from bwl / mc

They've said that there won't be any sort of "Epic" tree. Instead, all the current trees will be extended up to 41 pts, with the 41pt talents supposedly so awesome as to really have an incentive to get them instead of doing something like 31/30.

Rember too, this expansion isn't hitting til probably July or so, and there's several more patches worth of free content that'll arrive before it hits, so it is entirely likely that MC is going to be mostly obsolete for top tier raiding guilds long before we ever get to L61 or higher. Hell, it's mostly obsolete NOW, except for a few select rare drops, like the Bindings of the Windseeker.

-Arlos

I see how some fights, probably vael, maybe ragnaros and most from mc will become easier, but I dont see it ever getting to the point where you can 10 man those.

Technically the newest raid dungeon is tier 4 (if you include scholo as tier 1) so having tier 4 no matter what you should be able to do tier 2 pretty easily.

I dont think you would count scholo / ubrs /strath as a tier one, especially scholo or strath since they are 5 man fairly easy.

i realize, but i believe if you ask a GM they would call those sets tier 1

Yeah, as simple as the zones are they pretty much drop the first "superior" quality blue class set gear, making them Tier 1 zones in the most basic sense. What confuses me after that is that MC would be Tier 2 right? But the gear that drops there is better quality than the tier 2 pvp gear (which is blue and the MC set gear is purple.)

The GM's consider molten core sets Tier 1 since they're the first sets that are restricted by class.

That is what I thought too Tacks though I could be wrong

Interesting, that would in theory mean the "blue" pvp gear is considered better than the MC gear? The website lists it as Tier one gear, and the epic pvp armor set as tier 2.

key words: class restricted drops

Please? ^^