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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:20 am
by Minrott
hehe, and here I was feeling good about being 12-1 in both my pick'em leagues. In my money league, I bet it all on NE! I'm 5th in weekly standings, but the 4 above me picked Indy to win, if NE wins bring on the cash.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:31 am
by Tikker
I don't think you be counting on getting any of that cash, jeje

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:54 pm
by Phlegm
Tikker wrote:so charlie batch kinda sucks, but didn't lose the game


He was bad but not as bad as Maddox against the Jax. Batch's rating for the game was 39.8. At least he didnt make many mistakes like Maddox did.

Steelers did lose their best linebacker, Farrior, to a knee injury though. He will be out at least 2-3 weeks.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:41 pm
by Beelz
it's crazy what Minnesota does when they lose a quarterback. It seems like their thinking is:

Ok, this year our backup will be in his 13th+ season (Randall Cunningham, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson, etc.....) so he'll have one hell of a season, then get tossed to the cleaners and we search again next year... I'm honestly surprised Daunte made it this far without seriously getting hurt. Vikes go through QB's about as fast as rabbits hump.

I'm predicting Minnesota to finish near .500 w/ Brad at the helm... it's sad, but maybe even the playoffs if the east doesn't send every team possible to the wild card.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:25 pm
by Tikker
I don't understand why brad johnson has bounced around so much


he's a pretty ok QB

he's what, ~60% completion lifetime passer, ~150td : ~100int


He'd be a really good fit for a lot of teams (anyone with a good running game, and OK O-line)

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:22 pm
by Minrott
I always liked Brad Johnson. I don't think he fit well under Denny Green, or perhaps he took part of the blame from Denny for never making it passed the first round of the playoffs.

He was like, John Elway compared to Wade Wilson.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:24 am
by Beelz
I agree he was better than Wade Wilson, I still can't believe they had Rich Gannon as 2nd string compared to Wade back in the way early 90's after Tommy Kramer left... heck I think Sean Salsbury would have been better than Wilson if he ever moved up from 3rd string and actually got some playing time.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:59 am
by Tikker
eh, wade wilson wasn't a bad QB at all

In 1988 (with Minnesota) he led the NFC with a 91.5 quarterback rating, completing 204 of 332 passes (61.4%) for 2,746 yards, 15 touchdowns and nine interceptions. His 61.4 percent completion rate led the NFL that season.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:08 pm
by Minrott
For a year then. I remember Saints fans cheering when they carted him hurt off the field when he played for them.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:32 pm
by Tikker
Well, the saints are just a quagmire that could make any good player terrible


don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming he was a good/great QB, at worst, he was average, and at times he was pretty good

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:06 pm
by Phlegm
The Eagles Keyshawned Terrell Owens for the year. Most likely they will release him at the end of the season so he can kiss the 6 million dollars roster bonus for next year good bye.

Today Owens and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, were on tv apologized to just about everybody on earth and asking the Eagles to reinstate him.

So far the Eagles is standing firm on there decision.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:44 am
by Lyion
The Eagles will not be letting him back, and this was merely a ploy by Drew and T.O.

The best thing yesterday was when Rosenhaus, T.O.'s agent was asked what he has done for his client in five months, other than get him fired.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:06 am
by Minrott
Did you hear that guy? Jesus Christ what a whiny little bitch. If someone did an exaggeration of the most obnoxious nasally puke of a sports agent, it'd be the performance he put on today. After listening to that episode I can actually believe 90% of this debacle is his fault. If I was T.O. I wouldn't even fire the guy, I'd break his head in front of the media and give him a mushroom stamp on the mouth.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:35 am
by Beelz
Heh good 'ole Wade Wilson, ok in 1988: 61.4 Completion %, 2746 yards, 15 TD's, and 9 picks. 1989: 53.6 completion %, 2543 yards, 9 TD's, 12 picks. 1990 he gets replaced by Gannon and only played 6 games.

Rich Gannon 1991: 59.6 Comp %, 2166 yards, 12 TD's, 6 picks. 1992: 57.0 Comp %, 1905 yds, 12 TD's, 13 picks. Gannon is now done.

Jim McMahon 1993: split the season w/ Sean Salisbury 60.4 Comp %, 1968 yds, 9 TD's, 8 picks. Done

Warren Moon 1994: 61.7 Comp %, 4264 yds, 18 TDs, 19 Picks. 1995: 62.2 Comp %, 4228 yds, 33 TD's, 14 Picks. Warren Moon is done.

Brad Johnson (backing up Moon past 2 years) 1996: 62.7 Comp %, 2258 Yds, 17 TD's, 10 Picks. 1997: 60.8 Comp %, 3036 Yds, 20 TD's, 12 Picks. Done.

Randall Cunningham: 60.9 Comp %, 3704 yds, 34 TD's, 10 Picks. One season, Done.

Jeff George: (most the season) 1999: 58.1 Comp %, 2816 Yds, 23 TD's, 12 Pics. Done

And now Daunte Culpepper: 2000 and on, don't need to list stats, they've been good. but now we are back to Brad Johnson Again.

Now something funny:

Wade Wilson - 'good' seasons 1988-1989 Age: Drafted in '81, I'm assuming 28-29
Rich Gannon - 'good' season 1991 Age: 26
Jim McMahon - 'good' season 1993 Age: 34
Warren Moon - 'good' seasons 1994-1995 Age: 38-39
Brad Johnson - 'good' seasons 1996-1997 Age:28-29
Randall Cunningham - 'good season 1998 Age: 35
Jeff George - 'good' season 1999 Age: 31?
Daunte Culpepper - he breaks my chain pretty much as far as age goes.
Brad Johnson - Yes he's back and at the ripe young age of 37 as our starting QB.