Roe vs. Wade for Men

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:55 pm

Sex is extremely important in my life homie and i havent been involved in any abortions yet.

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:26 pm

ok... i should have been more clear, that's my fault.

i'm not saying don't get some - I'm just saying that if you're (not you specifically) aren't willing to face the responsibilities that come with it then you shouldn't be doing it.

it's bullshit to go slutting downtown on a friday night and run to the 'clinic' two weeks later and get an abortion.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:40 pm

What if ya just really didnt mean to get prego and its 2 retarded high skool kids or college kids. Or 2 broke fuckers that work the midnight shift at dennys. Just cuz you think some cells are alive doesnt mean you me or anyone else should have the right to tell anyone what to do with there bodies. If you want to have it and keep it fine. If you wanna have it and give it up fine. If you dont wanna have it and get rid of it asap before it resembles anything other than goo why is that a problem ? I always see people goin off about taking responsibility for there actions. WHAT IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND YOUR A TOTAL BROKE ASS? Do you want to pay for the programs to assist these children. I dont and i dont think i should have to but things cost money and someone has to pay the bill. Im not for or against abortion but i really am against telling people what they can and cant do with there bodies.

Thon · Post by **Thon** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:34 am

i think i've found the solution

Frank's Home Abortion Kit

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:44 am

spazz wrote:What if ya just really didnt mean to get prego and its 2 retarded high skool kids or college kids. Or 2 broke fuckers that work the midnight shift at dennys. Just cuz you think some cells are alive doesnt mean you me or anyone else should have the right to tell anyone what to do with there bodies. If you want to have it and keep it fine. If you wanna have it and give it up fine. If you dont wanna have it and get rid of it asap before it resembles anything other than goo why is that a problem ? I always see people goin off about taking responsibility for there actions. WHAT IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND YOUR A TOTAL BROKE ASS? Do you want to pay for the programs to assist these children. I dont and i dont think i should have to but things cost money and someone has to pay the bill. Im not for or against abortion but i really am against telling people what they can and cant do with there bodies.

You mean people might have to, you know, ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for their actions?

Blasphemy, this is the U.S.!

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:09 pm

I see gettin an abortion as a form of taking responsibility. I see keeping it as taking responsibility. Unless it effects you personally i donnt see what you care. If its against your morals dont get one. Your beleifs arent mine and mine arent the guy down the streets etc. Lotta unwanted kids out there allready man. I dont think forcing an unwanted kid on someone is a very responsible thing to do. Are you planning on adopting any time soon and helpingng take some responsibility for the unwanted children you think should be brrought into the world ? Are you mad you have to help take responsibility when your dollars go to moms who ARENT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO HAVE A CHILD ?

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:17 pm

You ALWAYS bring up adoption to this argument, you are so clueless it's ridiculous.

The world isn't perfect, get over it. Do I look back and think "shit, my life was fucking hard when I was a kid...I should have just been aborted to save my parents the trouble of BEING RESPONSIBLE for their actions"?

Fuck no, I survived it, and so will they. (Unless they're niggers and they'll likely not get past 17 and end up dead or incarcerated)

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:27 pm

I dont think the world is perfect homie. I just think if you wanna run off at the mouth and tell people what they outta be doin than put your money where you mouth is. Against abortion? Do something bout it besides talk shit. Neither of us knows everyones situation so why should we have the right to condemm judge and tell people what to do ? Real simple to me brother If someone doesnt wanna have a kid than they probibly should not be forced to have it. Lotta good stories from i didnt want it but had it anyway but theres also a lot of nightmares.

I dont sit around and say oh my life sucks i shoulda been aborted but at the same time.... If i was aborted im pretty sure i wouldnt care cuz i never made it to life.

Minrott · Post by **Minrott** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:33 am

It's not like there are millions of unwanted babies being pushed on the streets. For christ's sakes there aren't near enough to go around. Do you have any idea what kind of waiting list there is for parents who want to adopt? It took my folks 15 years to get me and 9 for my sister.

I have a hell of a lot nicer life than I would have if either A)I'd been born and kept by some single crack whore or B)I'd been murdered in the womb.

Ouchyfish · Post by **Ouchyfish** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:07 am

Harrison wrote:You ALWAYS bring up adoption to this argument, you are so clueless it's ridiculous.

The world isn't perfect, get over it. Do I look back and think "shit, my life was fucking hard when I was a kid...I should have just been aborted to save my parents the trouble of BEING RESPONSIBLE for their actions"?

Fuck no, I survived it, and so will they. (Unless they're niggers and they'll likely not get past 17 and end up dead or incarcerated)

I'm with harry 110% on this one..also how the fuck did ya get that word past the filter? hahaha

:rofl:

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:52 am

there might be a waiting list for cute little white babies and children....

Post by **Lyion** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:07 pm

Because all those people adopting overseas children only want cute lil white babies.

Sorina S · Post by **Sorina S** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:44 pm

Well, it's nice to see so many agreeing that one must take responsibility.

Sorina S · Post by **Sorina S** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:59 pm

spazz wrote:Sex is extremely important in my life homie and i havent been involved in any abortions yet.

It only becomes a consideration when you start having sex with women.

Agrajag · Post by **Agrajag** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:00 pm

Sorina, you are an idiot.

This whole RvW for Men is to allow men the equality to choose. To choose to be a parent in a situation where he was tricked into getting a woman pregnant. If a woman says that she cannot become pregnant due to a physical condition the man shouldn't be held accountable if she does. Such as the case in question, she lied and he should not have to pay for her lie.

If a woman becomes pregnant under false pretenses why should a man have to pay for the next 18 years? Sure, he did her good enough to impregnate her. Should he be held liable because she lied to him?

That would be the next step men should take. When a woman becomes pregnant after telling the man she cannot, the man should sue her for lying to him. Make the suit for roughly the same amount as the child support. Maybe a little more due to mental anquish of being put through the whole ordeal.

Here's a good story I heard a while back. A guy hooked up with some pretty wealthy guy's daughter. They had sex at his place, he used a condom. After the deed was done he went to the bathroom, removed the condom and poured some tobasco sauce into it. The acids in the tabasco kill the sperm cells rather quickly. He then deposited the condom in the trash and returned to bed. A few minutes later the woman goes to the bathroom. After several seconds of her being gone she screams in pain and comes tear-assing out of the bathroom knowing full well what he had done. She ended up sueing this man for the pain and humiliation she had endured. The funny thing was that he ended up winning with his counter-suit. His laywer brought up this very good arguement. It was the defendant's bio-hazard and he had the right to dispose of it in any manner he wished. The plaintiff had no right to touch it with out the defendant's express permission. The man won, the woman lost and had to pay $500,000 to the man for him missing work and the mental trauma he suffered from what she did. Mark one up for the men already!

Spliffs · Post by **Spliffs** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:03 pm

I can't believe this topic is still alive. Abort those fuckers. Abort all of them. Abortions should be buy 2 get 1 free. The world is already over populated.

Aborted fetuses do not care that they were aborted. They aren't upset about it. They aren't mourning their loss. Only one(maybe two) people have to live with it. The parents.

I will never understand why you people think it's any of your god damn business.

OH HEY GUESS WHAT ITS NOT. Even if abortion was illegal, it would be getting done in back alleys with a coat hanger. It's NEVER going away, get over it. Just like you conservative right-wing minority hating good ol' boys are never going away and I have to get used to it. I'd like to abort you right now!

Sorina S · Post by **Sorina S** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:33 pm

Agrajag wrote:Sorina, you are an idiot.

This whole RvW for Men is to allow men the equality to choose. To choose to be a parent in a situation where he was tricked into getting a woman pregnant. If a woman says that she cannot become pregnant due to a physical condition the man shouldn't be held accountable if she does. Such as the case in question, she lied and he should not have to pay for her lie.

If a woman becomes pregnant under false pretenses why should a man have to pay for the next 18 years? Sure, he did her good enough to impregnate her. Should he be held liable because she lied to him?

That would be the next step men should take. When a woman becomes pregnant after telling the man she cannot, the man should sue her for lying to him. Make the suit for roughly the same amount as the child support. Maybe a little more due to mental anquish of being put through the whole ordeal.

Here's a good story I heard a while back. A guy hooked up with some pretty wealthy guy's daughter. They had sex at his place, he used a condom. After the deed was done he went to the bathroom, removed the condom and poured some tobasco sauce into it. The acids in the tabasco kill the sperm cells rather quickly. He then deposited the condom in the trash and returned to bed. A few minutes later the woman goes to the bathroom. After several seconds of her being gone she screams in pain and comes tear-assing out of the bathroom knowing full well what he had done. She ended up sueing this man for the pain and humiliation she had endured. The funny thing was that he ended up winning with his counter-suit. His laywer brought up this very good arguement. It was the defendant's bio-hazard and he had the right to dispose of it in any manner he wished. The plaintiff had no right to touch it with out the defendant's express permission. The man won, the woman lost and had to pay $500,000 to the man for him missing work and the mental trauma he suffered from what she did. Mark one up for the men already!

Oh Christ help me with this one...

First off I'm an idiot I've never claimed otherwise. (super sig line Fish)

But let's get down to brass tacks bud. RvW guaruntees a womans right to a medical proceedure. That's about as plain and simple as it gets.

Now you can quote me all the hearsay you want, that doesn't change a thing my brother. Mental trauma, lmfao. False pretenses, jeebus man, you fucking talk like sex should happen in some pristine environment where everyone has thier saftey net on. Dude, have you ever had sex with a woman? It ain't like that.

The bottom line is this, you are responsible for the outcome. If it wasn't what you wanted don't cry to me, or the legal system. You were fair warned, you were provided with countermeasures, you wanna talk shit about 'oh she tricked me'...you fuckin sad sod...that's bullshit, I may be an idiot, but I'm not that much of an idiot.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:59 am

It only becomes a consideration when you start having sex with women.

Your so witty BROTHER prolly took 15 to 20 just to come up with that zinger. I prolly get more in a week than you in your lifetime.

And i dont know if your aware of this but there are some insane bitches out there. If they totally lie to you or save your shit and use it later on and its proovable why should you get punished.

Minrott · Post by **Minrott** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:47 am

I will never understand why you people think it's any of your god damn business.

OH HEY GUESS WHAT ITS NOT. Even if guns were illegal, it would be getting done in back alleys with a slap jack. It's NEVER going away, get over it. Just like you liberal, left wing, communist, authortarian bastards are never going away and I have to get used to it. I'd like to abort you right now!

Minrott · Post by **Minrott** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:55 am

Drugs, guns, alcohol, women's right to vote, abortion, gay marridge, it's all the same argument. And everybody seems to want to outlaw one or the other. If the fucking left would wise up and be as pro-liberty about everything as they are about anything having to do with women or minorities, they wouldn't be in the position they are now.

Jimmy Durante · Post by **Jimmy Durante** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:45 am

Minrott wrote:Do you have any idea what kind of waiting list there is for parents who want to adopt? It took my folks 15 years to get me and 9 for my sister.

I'm genuinely curious about this: What's the ratio of couples looking to adopt versus available children?

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:49 pm

Jimmy Durante wrote:
Minrott wrote:Do you have any idea what kind of waiting list there is for parents who want to adopt? It took my folks 15 years to get me and 9 for my sister.

I'm genuinely curious about this: What's the ratio of couples looking to adopt versus available children?

Available children for adoption:

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stat ... ng2003.htm

Post by **Lyion** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:09 pm

Children in foster care are not babies to adopt.

Apples and oranges.

Sorina S · Post by **Sorina S** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:20 pm

spazz wrote:Your so witty BROTHER prolly took 15 to 20

Miliseconds, yes and unlike you I don't keep score.

My argument here is plain my 'BROTHER'. You have been given all advance warning and sufficient countermeasures. You have been warned, educated and made streetwise yet you still feel bad for the dad. Fuck that shit, don't sleep with the ho is my advice. Pick up a box of trojians, it a good investment. Don't talk to me about some woman tricked you or how some chick took advantage of your ability to eject sperm.

Stop makin me laugh. Start usin your brain instead of your dick for guidence. It's really you're best bet to keepin you off the rolls of unwed fathers. Can't make it more clear than that.

Darcler · Post by **Darcler** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:12 pm

Sorina S wrote:
spazz wrote:Sex is extremely important in my life homie and i havent been involved in any abortions yet.

It only becomes a consideration when you start having sex with women.

This made me el oh el.