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I'll vote for Hillary in 2008

not a single word out of his mouth can be trusted at all.

Some of us realized this a long time ago, and tried to get rid of him in 2004. Too bad the red-state retard brigade kept him around. My only response to their current growing disillusionment is: We told you so, you stupid dumbfucks.

-Arlos

Yamori wrote:

Harrison wrote:Politicians lie, that's what they do, if you're surprised when it's "blown up"...you're a fucking tool.

The thing with Bush is not that he lies - it's that he does it incredibly ineptly - and it has become routine - AND he does it to such a frequent degree that it's stupifying. It's gotten to the point where not a single word out of his mouth can be trusted at all.

Hogswash. Bush is actually one of the more straightforward politicians. He makes a lot of ass decisions, but he's not a pull the wool over pure bullshitter like most other politicians. Anyone proclaiming he is, usually is a vitriolic uninformed bush basher with a partisan agenda, as can be clearly seen.

It's comic to see the slanderous level of bullshit that is spewed by the media, especially in regards to the Libby affair, and swallowed by imbeciles who don't even bother to read the Fitzgerald report which explains things clearly.

Not to worry, Arlos. The DNC and you have 2008 to try to rally the troops and win. I'd try to present actual facts, and not just scream Bush Lied in a silly manner that'll have everyone moderate pushed the other way, whether they are more prone to vote DNC or not.

Although given casualty rates in Iraq are at an all time low, the economy is kicking ass, and there are tough national security issues ahead that no sensible American would trust in the hands of the left wing pussy democrats, I'd consider moving to Canada if you want to see a liberal in the Presidency in the next 10 years... Although Martin might be a bastion there too for a while....

lyion wrote:

Yamori wrote:

Harrison wrote:Politicians lie, that's what they do, if you're surprised when it's "blown up"...you're a fucking tool.

The thing with Bush is not that he lies - it's that he does it incredibly ineptly - and it has become routine - AND he does it to such a frequent degree that it's stupifying. It's gotten to the point where not a single word out of his mouth can be trusted at all.

Hogswash. Bush is actually one of the more straightforward politicians. He makes a lot of ass decisions, but he's not a pull the wool over pure bullshitter like most other politicians. Anyone proclaiming he is, usually is a vitriolic uninformed bush basher with a partisan agenda, as can be clearly seen.

It's comic to see the slanderous level of bullshit that is spewed by the media, especially in regards to the Libby affair, and swallowed by imbeciles who don't even bother to read the Fitzgerald report which explains things clearly.

Not to worry, Arlos. The DNC and you have 2008 to try to rally the troops and win. I'd try to present actual facts, and not just scream Bush Lied in a silly manner that'll have everyone moderate pushed the other way, whether they are more prone to vote DNC or not.

Although given casualty rates in Iraq are at an all time low, the economy is kicking ass, and there are tough national security issues ahead that no sensible American would trust in the hands of the left wing pussy democrats, I'd consider moving to Canada if you want to see a liberal in the Presidency in the next 10 years... Although Martin might be a bastion there too for a while....

Very well put.

Mindia wrote:Like I said... I'm just keeping things in perspective. I know most of you are lefties, and that's fine. I'm going to offer up my opinions just as you guys have.

Yeah, but when we offer up our opinions, we don't do it in an adamant way that basically says "if you don't agree with me, you're an idiot." I post this because it's interesting to me. The fact that the administration doesn't comment because "it's an ongoing legal process," to me, just sounds like another way to buy them more time to think up a better excuse. And McClellan was even kind of stumbling through his responses, which I thought was weird because he seems like a pretty smooth talker in most cases...

I think that yeah, it's true, because I wouldn't put it past this administration to do so, but I'm not saying you're a dumbass because you think he didn't. Any true skeptic wants to be proven wrong. I figured you'd know that. Oh wait...

I'm not saying that if you don't agree with me then you're an idiot. Of course I want to know the truth just like every other American wants to know the truth. I just keep hearing the same negative stuff about "W" over and over and over again from the same ol people, with no substantiation or matter of fact. If Bush really is lying to us then I hope he gets what he has coming.

Some of us realized this a long time ago, and tried to get rid of him in 2004. Too bad the red-state retard brigade kept him around. My only response to their current growing disillusionment is: We told you so, you stupid dumbfucks.

When your inept party can field a candidate that doesn't send all the moderate red-state retards to the polls thinking "God I don't like the Rep, but we can't have this fucker in office" then the whole country will be better off.

You're your own worst enemy.