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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:39 pm
by Lyion
arlos wrote:O M F G!
Lyion said something negative about a member of the Bush administration! Someone alert Ripley's! Mark this day on your calender, boys and girls, for surely we shall never see its like again!
Lyion wrote:It's really a shame that Rumsfeld won the Powell/Rumsfeld tug of war.
Lyion wrote:I dislike Rumsfeld, he is a politician and they are never responsible for anything, they are there solely to take credit for things the military does. He should be fired for other reasons, mainly his inability to manage and move the military forward and provide adequate vision.
Hey, imagine that. Now, if I can see you ever not be a complete and total partisan GOP basher....
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:48 pm
by ClakarEQ
Think if the plane hit the ground then bounced up and hit the building.
That would explain why the wreckage wasn't in the building. It doesn't explain why there was "no wreckage". Who says there was no wreckege, perhaps you're believe what you're told /shrug?
I'd think the only part left would be broken up "shrapnel" type pieces flying forward. You can easily tell the plane hit the ground BEFORE the building.
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:44 pm
by Martrae
Yamori wrote:The noses of airplanes are made of material that could NOT possibly grind through 5 layers of the pentagon. Look at any picture of airplane impacts and you'll see that they crumple just on straight-to-ground impacts alone.
Combined with what Minrott has already said... that planes cannot and do not disintegrate - and that the holes have no wing markings whatsoever --- it simply doesn't add up. Take a look at pictures of missile/plane impacts and compare... It was a missile.
How bout the jet crumpled inside the building where it wouldn't have left noticeable debris on the outside and the wings folded upon hitting the 24in thick outer walls. Anything hitting at 350 mph is gonna leave a hell of a hole.
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:05 pm
by Tossica
Looks like a cruise missile.
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:30 pm
by Naethyn
It's physically impossible for the metals used in the engine of a 757 to "vaporize" at the temperatures the explosion could have generated.
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:58 pm
by Tikker
Martrae wrote:
How bout the jet crumpled inside the building where it wouldn't have left noticeable debris on the outside and the wings folded upon hitting the 24in thick outer walls. Anything hitting at 350 mph is gonna leave a hell of a hole.
wings are designed to shear off, not crumple inwards
in theory, its bad to design your gas tanks to swing in towards the passenger compartments in the event of an emergency
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:26 pm
by brinstar
missile
edit:
i'm also not going to say that WE shot a missile into our own building, as the conspiracy theorists...uhh...theorize. it's possible that we had a missile hijacked, and the gov't would rather tell people it was a plane than a missile, because there would be a lot more panic if americans knew our enemies could hijack missiles too
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:35 pm
by KILL
i think we should call myth busters and let them fly another 757 into the pentagon.
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:39 pm
by Dangel
KILL wrote:i think we should call myth busters and let them fly another 757 into the pentagon.
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:42 pm
by Martrae
Dangel wrote:KILL wrote:i think we should call myth busters and let them fly another 757 into the pentagon.
Brilliant!
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:49 pm
by brinstar
petition signed
......as long as they give kari plenty of air time, yum
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:39 pm
by Narrock
Yeah, Bush did it don't you know? He did it as an excuse to go into Iraq.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:42 am
by Darcler
brinstar wrote:petition signed
......as long as they give kari plenty of air time, yum
Agreed.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:46 am
by Yamori
brinstar wrote:missile
edit:
i'm also not going to say that WE shot a missile into our own building, as the conspiracy theorists...uhh...theorize. it's possible that we had a missile hijacked, and the gov't would rather tell people it was a plane than a missile, because there would be a lot more panic if americans knew our enemies could hijack missiles too
Basically my view.
I'm very dubious of the conspiracy theories, but there is ample evidence that the government has lied about all sorts of things that occured on 9/11 - at least relative to the official story.
That previously linked documentary has lots of food for thought if you take it with a grain of salt.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:19 am
by Jazendar
Wow wtf, you guys don't remember the video i posted months ago with the controversial 9/11 video? i'll look for it now, but yea definitly some shit about the pentagon, very much so worth looking into, one min i'll find the link.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:24 am
by Jazendar
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
this is a link to check out.
http://novakeo.com/?p=262
The above link is the video, don't mind the first part, it's a bit far fetched, but the second part has the science involved in the pentagon and the "boeing 747." very interesting.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:18 am
by Ginzburgh
i'm also not going to say that WE shot a missile into our own building, as the conspiracy theorists...uhh...theorize. it's possible that we had a missile hijacked, and the gov't would rather tell people it was a plane than a missile, because there would be a lot more panic if americans knew our enemies could hijack missiles too
If it was a missle, what happend to flight 77 and all the people on board?
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:15 am
by Tikker
Ginzburgh wrote: i'm also not going to say that WE shot a missile into our own building, as the conspiracy theorists...uhh...theorize. it's possible that we had a missile hijacked, and the gov't would rather tell people it was a plane than a missile, because there would be a lot more panic if americans knew our enemies could hijack missiles too
If it was a missle, what happend to flight 77 and all the people on board?
they got blown up by the other missle
the one that didn't miss
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:39 am
by Zanchief
Tikker wrote:Ginzburgh wrote: i'm also not going to say that WE shot a missile into our own building, as the conspiracy theorists...uhh...theorize. it's possible that we had a missile hijacked, and the gov't would rather tell people it was a plane than a missile, because there would be a lot more panic if americans knew our enemies could hijack missiles too
If it was a missle, what happend to flight 77 and all the people on board?
they got blown up by the other missle
the one that didn't miss
So where did that planes bits go?
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:03 am
by ClakarEQ
So where did that planes bits go?
That question needs to be answered regardless.
If the plane was shot down before it hit the ground, where are the bits?
If the plane was never there, where are the people?
I don't recall seeing any report to say NO plane parts were found. Someone have a link to this?
As much as I dislike the administration I just refuse to believe something of "this" scale could be kept secret by everyone involved.
A plane that size could have penetrated the building just like both of the planes that hit the towers, the planes traveled through each of the buildings blowing out the opposing side. Why could this not have been the exact same at the pentigon?
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:07 am
by Zanchief
This is a little bit a of a stretch, but I do think the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:08 am
by Martrae
I wouldn't doubt it. I also understand why they'd choose to make a hero story of it. We really needed something like that then.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:10 am
by Zanchief
Martrae wrote:I wouldn't doubt it. I also understand why they'd choose to make a hero story of it. We really needed something like that then.
Yep, I don't blame them for shooting it down (if they did) or covering it up (if they did).
It just seemed logical.
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:39 am
by Harrison
Fuck off, I agree with both Zanchief and a woman
I'm going back to sleep before this nightmare worsens
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:12 am
by Tikker
that video made a pretty strong case for it being a missile hitting the pentagon