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/sigh... can't you just give it a rest?

I have to agree with Brin there Mindia. You should have left the eye rolling emote out of your description.

When I was in third grade, it was just before Christmas and the teacher was teaching us about the various customs in which different cultures celebrate the holiday. She said that in Switzerland the children put shoes outside of there bedroom door and Santa Claus would put candy in there shoes. I laughed and the teacher asked me what was so funny. I said something like, "that's stupid, they put shoes outside their bedroom door" to which she replied, "stupid? As opposed to dragging a live tree inside your home and hanging glass balls from it?"

But other than the emote, your description was very informative Mindia.

Ginzburgh wrote:

/sigh... can't you just give it a rest?

I have to agree with Brin there Mindia. You should have left the eye rolling emote out of your description.

When I was in third grade, it was just before Christmas and the teacher was teaching us about the various customs in which different cultures celebrate the holiday. She said that in Switzerland the children put shoes outside of there bedroom door and Santa Claus would put candy in there shoes. I laughed and the teacher asked me what was so funny. I said something like, "that's stupid, they put shoes outside their bedroom door" to which she replied, "stupid? As opposed to dragging a live tree inside your home and hanging glass balls from it?"

But other than the emote, your description was very informative Mindia.

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

It doesn't bother me at all. I just think it tarnishes your otherwise insightful description of the subject at hand. Nor do I think it is justifiable and appropriate for a person of faith to roll their eyes at someone else’s faith because elements of the other person's faith sounds "improbable" to them. Faith is improbable in general. It's like one kid telling another "my imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend".

Ginzburgh wrote:

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

It doesn't bother me at all. I just think it tarnishes your otherwise insightful description of the subject at hand. Nor do I think it is justifiable and appropriate for a person of faith to roll their eyes at someone else’s faith because elements of the other person's faith sounds "improbable" to them. Faith is improbable in general. It's like one kid telling another "my imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend".

True, but my imaginary friend CAN beat up your imaginary friend.

Agrajag wrote:

DESX wrote:3. Russia, Britain, Australia, and Japan would most likely immediatly side with the U.S. and they would also have U.N. backing. France and Canada would cower in fear and do nothing as usual.

You forgot something, DESX. I took the liberty of adding it in bold.

damn thats a retarded statement

Ginzburgh wrote:

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

It doesn't bother me at all. I just think it tarnishes your otherwise insightful description of the subject at hand. Nor do I think it is justifiable and appropriate for a person of faith to roll their eyes at someone else’s faith because elements of the other person's faith sounds "improbable" to them. Faith is improbable in general. It's like one kid telling another "my imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend".

There's where we differ. The rolling eyes part was the most important piece of information I intentionally placed in that post. And furthermore, Jesus was not an imaginary friend. He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed).

Muslims claim to be a religion of peace. They pray to a prophet who told them to "slay the infidels wherever you find them." That doesn't sound very peaceful to me. So, that's why I often roll my eyes at Muslims and their wacky beliefs.

ok

Ginzburgh wrote:ok

Smart man.

Narrock wrote:

Ginzburgh wrote:

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

It doesn't bother me at all. I just think it tarnishes your otherwise insightful description of the subject at hand. Nor do I think it is justifiable and appropriate for a person of faith to roll their eyes at someone else’s faith because elements of the other person's faith sounds "improbable" to them. Faith is improbable in general. It's like one kid telling another "my imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend".

There's where we differ. The rolling eyes part was the most important piece of information I intentionally placed in that post. And furthermore, Jesus was not an imaginary friend. He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed).

Muslims claim to be a religion of peace. They pray to a prophet who told them to "slay the infidels wherever you find them." That doesn't sound very peaceful to me. So, that's why I often roll my eyes at Muslims and their wacky beliefs.

I think it is good that you have your faith, but I am going to play the devi's advocate here. You said "He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed). " You have to understand where non believers are coming from. They are reading from a book, that has been transcribed many times over the past 2,000+ years. You have to leave room for error.

My boss and I got into this heated conversation because I am reading my Harry Potter series again. He comes in talking about witchcraft and how I am a devil worshipper. At first I was like "Its FICTION, it's not real. I read it for the entertainment value" but after much egging on and annoying me I finally turned to him and said that there is a book out there that talks about a man walking on water, and turning water into wine, and doing many other things that the normal person could not do. It's called the Bible. Many people could look at these "Miracles" as magic, and especially since we have no proof otherwise. Jesus could have been considered a witch back in his time. To which he got extrememly angry and turned red and started shaking his fist at me. I told him that I have no problem with him being a Christian, or his Joyce Meyer books all over my office, or the crucifixes he has hanging on the wall, or how his stupid sermon tapes are always playing in the office. I don't care. That is his religion, but he doesn't have to push it on to me. I shouldn't have to put up with it. I should have to join him in prayer. I believe that my religion is my own personal and private choice. I tell him all the time he should have been a Jehovah's witness.

Anyway, I rambled there a bit.

Narrock wrote:So, that's why I often roll my eyes at Muslims and their wacky beliefs.

I think Ginz' point was the highlighted word. You seem to poke fun at other people's belief systems and get agitated when they do the same to you. Just leave out the eye rolling and the negative adjectives and there will be less they can poke fun at you about.

I'm sure Muslims think Christianity is a wacky belief system, also.

My boss and I got into this heated conversation because I am reading my Harry Potter series again. He comes in talking about witchcraft and how I am a devil worshipper. At first I was like "Its FICTION, it's not real. I read it for the entertainment value" but after much egging on and annoying me I finally turned to him and said that there is a book out there that talks about a man walking on water, and turning water into wine, and doing many other things that the normal person could not do. It's called the Bible. Many people could look at these "Miracles" as magic, and especially since we have no proof otherwise. Jesus could have been considered a witch back in his time. To which he got extrememly angry and turned red and started shaking his fist at me. I told him that I have no problem with him being a Christian, or his Joyce Meyer books all over my office, or the crucifixes he has hanging on the wall, or how his stupid sermon tapes are always playing in the office. I don't care. That is his religion, but he doesn't have to push it on to me. I shouldn't have to put up with it. I should have to join him in prayer. I believe that my religion is my own personal and private choice. I tell him all the time he should have been a Jehovah's witness.

How can you work with a guy like that?

I'm looking for another job as we speak.

Joyce Meyer makes me puke.

The Kizzy wrote:

Narrock wrote:

Ginzburgh wrote:

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

It doesn't bother me at all. I just think it tarnishes your otherwise insightful description of the subject at hand. Nor do I think it is justifiable and appropriate for a person of faith to roll their eyes at someone else’s faith because elements of the other person's faith sounds "improbable" to them. Faith is improbable in general. It's like one kid telling another "my imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend".

There's where we differ. The rolling eyes part was the most important piece of information I intentionally placed in that post. And furthermore, Jesus was not an imaginary friend. He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed).

Muslims claim to be a religion of peace. They pray to a prophet who told them to "slay the infidels wherever you find them." That doesn't sound very peaceful to me. So, that's why I often roll my eyes at Muslims and their wacky beliefs.

I think it is good that you have your faith, but I am going to play the devi's advocate here. You said "He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed). " You have to understand where non believers are coming from. They are reading from a book, that has been transcribed many times over the past 2,000+ years. You have to leave room for error.

My boss and I got into this heated conversation because I am reading my Harry Potter series again. He comes in talking about witchcraft and how I am a devil worshipper. At first I was like "Its FICTION, it's not real. I read it for the entertainment value" but after much egging on and annoying me I finally turned to him and said that there is a book out there that talks about a man walking on water, and turning water into wine, and doing many other things that the normal person could not do. It's called the Bible. Many people could look at these "Miracles" as magic, and especially since we have no proof otherwise. Jesus could have been considered a witch back in his time. To which he got extrememly angry and turned red and started shaking his fist at me. I told him that I have no problem with him being a Christian, or his Joyce Meyer books all over my office, or the crucifixes he has hanging on the wall, or how his stupid sermon tapes are always playing in the office. I don't care. That is his religion, but he doesn't have to push it on to me. I shouldn't have to put up with it. I should have to join him in prayer. I believe that my religion is my own personal and private choice. I tell him all the time he should have been a Jehovah's witness.

Anyway, I rambled there a bit.

We have enough people here that play "Devil's Advocate." Muslims worship a nonexistent deity, unworthy of praise or adoration. So, to hell with them anyway. Christians believe in God, the creator and Jesus Christ, the Son of God... the true Prince of Peace. Why don't you all give it an effing rest now. Believe what you want, but don't gay up this thread too like you did to the one that got moved to EE.

Narrock wrote:

The Kizzy wrote:

Narrock wrote:

Ginzburgh wrote:

Sorry if it bothers you that much. It's just how I feel, and I don't hold back when I feel a certain way about something... especially where it's completely justifiable and appropriate.

It doesn't bother me at all. I just think it tarnishes your otherwise insightful description of the subject at hand. Nor do I think it is justifiable and appropriate for a person of faith to roll their eyes at someone else’s faith because elements of the other person's faith sounds "improbable" to them. Faith is improbable in general. It's like one kid telling another "my imaginary friend can beat up your imaginary friend".

There's where we differ. The rolling eyes part was the most important piece of information I intentionally placed in that post. And furthermore, Jesus was not an imaginary friend. He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed).

Muslims claim to be a religion of peace. They pray to a prophet who told them to "slay the infidels wherever you find them." That doesn't sound very peaceful to me. So, that's why I often roll my eyes at Muslims and their wacky beliefs.

I think it is good that you have your faith, but I am going to play the devi's advocate here. You said "He was a real person (documented in several ancient texts) and was also the Son of God (hundreds, if not thousands of people wintessed the miracles He performed). " You have to understand where non believers are coming from. They are reading from a book, that has been transcribed many times over the past 2,000+ years. You have to leave room for error.

My boss and I got into this heated conversation because I am reading my Harry Potter series again. He comes in talking about witchcraft and how I am a devil worshipper. At first I was like "Its FICTION, it's not real. I read it for the entertainment value" but after much egging on and annoying me I finally turned to him and said that there is a book out there that talks about a man walking on water, and turning water into wine, and doing many other things that the normal person could not do. It's called the Bible. Many people could look at these "Miracles" as magic, and especially since we have no proof otherwise. Jesus could have been considered a witch back in his time. To which he got extrememly angry and turned red and started shaking his fist at me. I told him that I have no problem with him being a Christian, or his Joyce Meyer books all over my office, or the crucifixes he has hanging on the wall, or how his stupid sermon tapes are always playing in the office. I don't care. That is his religion, but he doesn't have to push it on to me. I shouldn't have to put up with it. I should have to join him in prayer. I believe that my religion is my own personal and private choice. I tell him all the time he should have been a Jehovah's witness.

Anyway, I rambled there a bit.

We have enough people here that play "Devil's Advocate." Muslims worship a nonexistent deity, unworthy of praise or adoration. So, to hell with them anyway. Christians believe in God, the creator and Jesus Christ, the Son of God... the true Prince of Peace. Why don't you all give it an effing rest now. Believe what you want, but don't gay up this thread too like you did to the one that got moved to EE.

My old friend, you are missing the point, as you do so often lately. Just because you BELIEVE that God is the creator, and Jesus Christ is the son of God, does not make it TRUE. That is why your belief system is based on FAITH. Not real tangible FACTS. I am a Christian as well, but you really do take it to the extremes sometimes. Please feel free to ignore valid points and examples in posts. It seems to be your forte.

Narrock wrote:Muslims worship a nonexistent deity, unworthy of praise or adoration. So, to hell with them anyway.

Narrock wrote:Believe what you want, but don't gay up this thread too like you did to the one that got moved to EE.

It's contradictions like this that are egging people on, Mindia. I'm trying to help you here. Please, for the love of all that is holy and sane, read what you type before posting.

Narrock wrote:What would happen if somebody placed C4, or some other explosive devices, all around the most holy place for Muslims, called the "Dome of the Rock" in Jerusalem, and blew it to smithereens? What would be the after-effect of an event like that?

P.S. you started it

You claimed to be a Christian, Janet. What kind of Christian witness are you to play devil's advocate against Christianity, and raising doubt about His authenticity?

Anyway, those are my opinions about the matter.

I guess what I am trying to make you realize is that other people have their own beliefs, and they feel the same way about Christianity that you do about Buddhaism. The Bible says to be tolerant. I have to go listen to more Joyce Meyer stuff.

Oh and way to dodge the questions and points again.

Those are not opinions. They are diatribes of closed communication with no form of balance.

You make baby jesus