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Yea pretty much.

DangerPaul wrote:

Lueyen wrote:

Tikker wrote:good thing everyone has the right to own a gun

How many victims do you think were armed? Legal or not the perpetrators would not have cared, they obviously don't respect the law enough to not commit murder, I somehow don't think possession of a fire arm illegally is going to keep them up at night. Now imagine if all 5 of the victims were armed, think there would have still been 5 victims, think the murders would still be at large?

Obviously it would take time, but if all guns were removed from the streets, and again I say it would take time... These stupid acts would not happen. Make them illegal, make it a life sentence if caught with one and melt down every one you take off the street, give it a couple of decades and poof, problem solved.

That's a crock of shit. The criminal element will always have guns via the black market. Using your logic, U.S. citizens will be disarmed, but criminals will still have guns. It's a good thing we have the U.S. Constitution to protect us from ass-backwards-thinking people like you.

banning is not the answer with guns anymore then it was with booze

But banning things works so well.

The way I see it, if someone has the intent to harm or kill another person they will find a way to do it. It doesn't matter...they'll use whatever means available to them to carry it out.

Yea pretty much.

Narrock wrote:

DangerPaul wrote:

Lueyen wrote:

Tikker wrote:good thing everyone has the right to own a gun

How many victims do you think were armed? Legal or not the perpetrators would not have cared, they obviously don't respect the law enough to not commit murder, I somehow don't think possession of a fire arm illegally is going to keep them up at night. Now imagine if all 5 of the victims were armed, think there would have still been 5 victims, think the murders would still be at large?

Obviously it would take time, but if all guns were removed from the streets, and again I say it would take time... These stupid acts would not happen. Make them illegal, make it a life sentence if caught with one and melt down every one you take off the street, give it a couple of decades and poof, problem solved.

That's a crock of shit. The criminal element will always have guns via the black market. Using your logic, U.S. citizens will be disarmed, but criminals will still have guns. It's a good thing we have the U.S. Constitution to protect us from ass-backwards-thinking people like you.

feel free to explain the differences in gun violence between Canada, and the USA then

I really don't feel like researching this right now and commenting on it.

Narrock wrote:I really don't feel like researching this right now and commenting on it.

yes, it's much easier to make baseless claims that you never have to back up!

Tikker wrote:

Narrock wrote:I really don't feel like researching this right now and commenting on it.

yes, it's much easier to make baseless claims that you never have to back up!

I didn't make any baseless claims. I said that if gun rights were revoked, the criminal element will still have access to guns, but the general public would be disarmed.

American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States

A lot of that was retards who didn't put trigger locks on their guns. People like that make me sick.

sure that's one explanation

but look at the numbers for adults and you see the same kind of thing


1 in 4 canadians owns a gun, 90%+ are long guns tho
we don't have the kind of gun violence that you see in the US

I said that it is my opinion that, if gun rights were revoked, the criminal element will still have access to guns, but the general public would be disarmed.

Fixed.

I'll roll with that.

1 in 4 canadians owns a gun, 90%+ are long guns tho
we don't have the kind of gun violence that you see in the US

So how do you explain banning or other regulatory function as having any effect on firearm saftey?



Besides, it's just darwin at work.

Minrott wrote:

1 in 4 canadians owns a gun, 90%+ are long guns tho
we don't have the kind of gun violence that you see in the US

So how do you explain banning or other regulatory function as having any effect on firearm saftey?



Besides, it's just darwin at work.

it goes back to my original point, long ago

non-hunting weapons are kept and used for the sole purpose of shooting other people

with the vast vast majority of guns in canada being hunting stylez, we don't get the gun violence you have in the states

lol that's ridiculous. I'm willing to bet more than 50% of the child injuries and suicides that are included in your numbers are with "hunting" style firearms. Just the other day a guy in the town over blew his melon with a No4 Mk1 Enfield. There's a billion of them in Canada.

The guns or how scary they look aren't the problem. It's a cultural issue. Americans are fucked up. Canadians are pretty mellow.

And arent there countries out there that allow you to own full auto that have very low gun incident rates? Im thinkin switzerland or something like that maybe.

Every citizen in Switzerland has a service rifle in the home. They're also a conscript army, everyone serves 2 years or some such.


But the Swiss actually have a pragmatic view on life, being in the middle of that shithole called Europe. Everyone is part of the defense force. The next time some crazy dude starts burning jews and heading for france, they just wind up their borders and make like a turtle.

I was just saying they keep those evil guns for killing tik is talkin bout and dont have problems. Its not the guns its crazy ass people and crazy ass laws.