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Like any other MS product, I am goin gto wait til Service Pack 1 is released. Any new huge piece of software is going to have issues, I simply will wait until the initial release set of issues are fixed, and then look at aquiring it.

-Arlos

Good lord I cant believe I am gonna do this but...Arlos is right...fuck I hate myself now.

Tossica wrote:Kahar, what kind of tech establishment do you work for that you can't get a free copy of Vista?

got a copy right here. but I believe in the rule that nothing bill give us can be trusted till Service Pack 1

I would like to reference you to the hell that was Windows ME

lmao Windows ME was the biggest pile of dook since DOS 4.0.

Tossica wrote:Kahar, what kind of tech establishment do you work for that you can't get a free copy of Vista?

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Ok, put 2 gigs of ram in the laptop.

Vista is great if you throw enough ram at it.

I usually run my OS bare bones but the bells and whistles are really nice. The networking, performance, reporting and troubleshooting tools and the overall ease of use are great. I wouldn't suggest everyone run out and buy it but it's a great OS for the kind of work I do.

Agreed, I wouldn't try running it with less than 2GIG, I'd rather have 3 for the extra caching but it's a fun OS. Loving it so far.

I loved it the first week.

I then started hitting all of its weakpoints left and right.

Been running it for a couple weeks now. So far no weak points. What problems did you have?

vista basic/home premium dont support faxing, total clusterfuck when it comes to driver support. runs like a snail with anything older than 6 months old.
if you are a complete newb with computers the os leads to extreme amounts of frustration

on the plus side you can get a vista computer dirt cheap out of the dell refurb.

I'll stick to this XP then, I know how to run games and the internets and thats about it~

I had to uninstall it due to lack of driver support from 3rd parties including my firewire sound card.

Unfortunately I have to keep vista cause in about 3 months I have to order laptops, unfortunately I have a choice, MAC books for everyone...or vista machines sicne I am having a hard time finding non vista systems in large bulk.

Kahar try Dell laptops for XP Pro

I have about 40 of them right now I am throwing it cause I cant get the support I need on them and the owner of my school says 'yah there shall be no more dells for I dont like MIke."

Hrmm I am normally a Dell laptop shop here, but recenlty brought in some sonys for the small footprint and such. Check out some of the Vaios from Sony. Last two I bought are still XP. (Some things I don't like about them but seem semi solid)

yeah we have gone mainly to HP business class laptops and I have been happy with them. my main problem is school discounts are thru certain contract companies. so i am stuck with their stock.

Sorry anyone is being forced into Vista at this point. As I've said before, I don't trust any MS product, especially an OS until at least the first major service pack comes out. By then, most of the major issues have been ironed out, there's usually a fairly stable driver suite, etc. No way in hell am I adopting it now or any time soon.

-Arlos

something we both agree on.

I have about 20 licenses left on my site license. beleive me those will be used first.

all i can say is thank god for test networks.

Vista has some nice ideas. im still in the leery about the implementation thou.

its like wiping your ass with a chair leg. it is long...painful, and when your done using it your shit is splintered and you feel viloated

Vista kicks ass if you have a machine that can run it and if 3rd party assholes would get some up to date drivers out there. They only had what, 2 fucking years to come up with compatible drivers?

problem is toss we are dealing with the educational system most of their shit is so outdated it makes the military look modern.