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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:27 pm
by Scatillac
i blame rap music.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:34 pm
by Darcler
Just because it was in a classroom doesnt mean it couldnt have happened. There have been plenty of stories about kids having sex, oral or otherwise, on schoolbuses.
Its also this was a K-12 or a K-8. We have one school around here that is Elementary+Middle School. While I dont imagine them teaching the older and younger kids together, maybe this was the in school suspension room. While I practically stayed in there my whole middle school time, there were different age groups in there and the teacher hardly ever stayed in the room.
This story seems plausible and is very sad.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:28 pm
by The Kizzy
My son is in the fifth grade, he just turned 11 :(

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:46 pm
by Phlegm
Did they filmed it and put it on youtube?

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:42 pm
by Harrison
Tacks wrote:Our teachers left the room a lot of times, we didn't start fucking each other.


I'm with fuckface on this one.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:14 pm
by Markarado
Snero wrote:the problem is the teacher left a bunch of kids without any kind of supervision, that is a problem. Ya I'm sure they didn't expect the kids to do this, but anybody who's been around kids will tell you leaving them alone is just a bad idea.


No, this is not a problem. Kids at this age are almost always going to be ok on their own. Kids at this age baby sit already. They don't need supervision. Obviously you don't know jack about kids.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:18 pm
by Haylo
If you leave a group of kids alone, 9 times out of 10 they are going to start doing something they would not do with an adult present. I'm not saying that most kids will go to the extremes that these kids did, but they are going to do something wrong or not adult approved. If you don't believe this you haven't been around many kids. Also anyone letting a 11 year old kid babysit for them is an idiot. I can't believe you think an 11 year old doesn't need adult supervision, you must live in a world with some incredibly mature and well behaved kids, let me know where to find them.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:39 am
by Burgy99
I think a kid is totally capable to be left alone at the age of 11 / 12 . I know I was. The keyword is "alone". A 12 year by himself won't cause trouble, but infront of 10 other 12 year olds they are going to want to show off and misbehave with out any adult supervision.

And it's not like i'm alone on this one, the majority of people I know had babysitters up till 5th grade, and once they hit 6th grade ( middle school here) their parents trusted them to be on their own.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:08 am
by Markarado
I was going around Tianjin, China by myself at the age of 8 with no problems. It depends on the kid.. but yes.. I was alone without other kids..

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:22 am
by The Kizzy
When Trystin was 9 I was letting him get off the school bus and wait at home alons for someone to get ehre, usually it was never more than 30 or 45 minutes. AS I said, he is 11 now, and his Dad lets him stay home all the time by himself. I don't agree with t, but he seems to think he is responsible enough.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:25 am
by Evermore
arlos wrote:How often are kids held back these days, really? It's pretty rare, and to have 4 of them in 1 class, one of which at least would've been held back not once, not twice, but THREE times? That strains the bounds of credulity to even consider.

-Arlos



Arlos

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana

should answer the question.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:27 am
by Evermore
Markarado wrote:I was going around Tianjin, China by myself at the age of 8 with no problems. It depends on the kid.. but yes.. I was alone without other kids..


you're a Gaijin (sp) no one wants you

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:36 am
by Darcler
Yeah Mark, but you said kids this age (11-13) baby sit already. There is no way in hell I, or many pther parents out there, would let an 11 year old baby sit young children. 16 is the youngest I would go because they can drive in case of emergency. 15 if they have their hardship license.

I baby sat a 10 year old. He was a great kid. Alone. When another mother wanted me to watch her kid, one of his friends, well that was the last time I would watch 2 young boys together. Fuck that noise. I couldnt get either to do what I needed them to do (clean up and go to bed, put their dishes up, stop running in the apartment)

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:49 am
by Lyion
Markarado wrote:I was going around Tianjin, China by myself at the age of 8 with no problems. It depends on the kid.. but yes.. I was alone without other kids..


Mark, do you speak fluent Mandarin? That's great for work opportunities in your future.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:12 am
by Tossica
He speaks fluent dumbass, that's for sure.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:12 am
by Evermore
Tossica wrote:He speaks fluent dumbass, that's for sure.


:lol:

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:20 am
by Haylo
It seems to me that kids these days are much more immature though. When I was in elementary school I stayed home with my younger sister for about 2 hours until my older siblings got off school. But now, these kids are really immature, when we come home and my 14 year old nephew has been alone we look around to see wtf he has destroyed while we were gone. Kids these days ><

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:30 am
by Darcler
Its because, I think, we spoil or dont put enough responsibility on our kids like our parents did to us.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:39 am
by Phlegm
it's because corporal punishment is not allow anymore.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:29 pm
by ClakarEQ
Phlegm wrote:it's because corporal punishment is not allow anymore.

Not to side track shit too much but I agree with this. My wife and I often have a similar conversation as I have no problem with "spanking" my kids.

In school however there is no "adverse" cause/effect. Kids act bad, and no reaction outside of a note given to the parents.

Too many parents lean on school teachers for up-bringing. Placeing ethics along side with "learning" and a false expectation that ethics and morals will be "taught" in school.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:35 pm
by Tacks
I babysat my brother when I was 11, he's 10 years younger than me.

And Evermore, that school isn't in New Orleans, the AP reporter is in New Orleans. They're actually very close to Arkansas.

"The students were arrested Tuesday at the Spearsville school in rural north Louisiana"

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:39 pm
by Burgy99
I don't see why spanking is necessary to discipline your kids. Why not just use reasoning, and take away the things they value as punishment. Do that, and they'll catch on, if you start beating them chances are they are going to WANT to push you somedays, just to see how far they can get away with it...

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:15 pm
by The Kizzy
Burgy do you have your own kids?

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:49 pm
by Jay
I agree and I don't agree with Burgy. I don't think physical discipline is necessary. On the otherhand, fuck reasoning with kids. The idea is to tell them straight out what to do and what is right and wrong so that when they grow up they develop reasoning through your lesson. The extent I'd go as far as reasoning would be to briefly explain myself after they have complyed. I also believe in negative reinforcement as my choice in how to raise a kid. I think punishment for bad things isn't good enough and I think rewarding a kid for taking out the garbage is stupid. I think kids should be punished for doing something wrong but have the punishment gradually lifted as they do better and better. Also, if you're gonna reward your kids for following through, do it rarely but in large scale.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:10 pm
by Tossica
My son will be 12 this summer and I have yet to find reason to hit him. Not that I am totally against it but I think about all the times I was spanked as a kid and I don't think I deserved any of them. The only thing I learned from getting whipped is that my dad was an asshole.