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Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:15 am
by Zanchief
Tikker wrote:
Gypsiyee wrote:
I'm just curious given NZ's hatred of America why your boyfriend would want to come here.


oh I missed this too - perhaps because he didn't come to the states for love of the states so much as came over because, you know, he loves me? =p



I think you missed out by not going there instead ;)


Aye. Why would anyone trade NZ for Florida? They don't even know how to puncture voting cards there.

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:18 am
by Ouchyfish
This is hilarious. Mommy look at the Canadians making stereotypical statements after crying bloody murder when some of us mean Americans do the same!

Is hypocrisy the national dish of Canada?

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:21 am
by Gypsiyee
Family is all here.. I like it here! Him coming here was just the most feasible all around. Who knows what the future holds, but for now and for a long while home is here

I don't know if I could ever get used to having Christmas in the summer and my birthday in the winter either ><

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:27 am
by Zanchief
Yes but "winter" is like 20 degrees (Celsius).

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:28 am
by Zanchief
Ouchyfish wrote:Is hypocrisy the national dish of Canada?


Yes, along with Stopbeingadouchebagitwasajoke.

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:33 am
by Gypsiyee
Zanchief wrote:Yes but "winter" is like 20 degrees (Celsius).



Sure, but I already have that in florida =)

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:35 am
by Lyion
Gypsiyee wrote:-Jonathan posting on Ash's account because hes to lazy to create his own-

New Zealand media is extremely liberal and tends to influence a lot of peoples opinions. We are on the complete opposite side of the world and never see any struggle which makes it very easy to judge others actions. That survey in the blog was conducted at a very vulnerable stage of US/NZ relations and reflects it. The blog was biased and shouldn't be taken seriously by Americans nor should it detract anyone from visiting. NZ and America don't see eye to eye on a number of things, the two main points being the war on Iraq and nuclear power. While I don't agree with the majority of military action America has taken I find it funny that NZ thinks its in a position to judge negatively. NZ hasn't had planes crashed into it killing thousands of people nor does it need nuclear power due to such a small population size.

Before the recent war America had a free trade agreement pending with both Australia and New Zealand and America pulled it as soon as we didn't support the invasion and gave it to Australia which left many people extremely bitter and basically made it look to them that the US was trying to buy support. Both the British and Australian prime minister endured huge scrutiny over sending troops to help the US and both parties suffered huge rating slides because of it. There was huge political conflict between Australia and NZ due to them helping America and you couldn't turn on a TV without seeing people protesting the war. Any mention of NZ supporting US military action would have been political suicide by our prime minister. You have movies like Fahrenheit 9/11 going to the top of the NZ box office persuading completely uneducated minds that America = Evil. It's still considered "cool" in the NZ youth to be a Bush hater and most consider the war in Iraq nothing but money/oil mongering all while wearing some ridiculous "Bush is not my president" t-shirt.

NZ in no shape or form hates Americans, just a large portion disagrees with America's foreign polices and/or are confused Michael Moore lovers. Americans don't get ridiculed as they walk down the street as the blog makes you to believe, we don't give a shit where you come from and political disagreements are fought over beers/laughing fits. The difference is purely political, not personal. NZ is taking a political stance that no one outside NZ cares about. We literally have 3-4 airplanes in our whole Air Force and other than our S.A.S troops which we deployed in Afghanistan our military is a complete joke and we like it that way. If we were bombed you better believe we are going to be asking from help from America and they would probably still give it to us. I have had nothing but positive experiences being here and I can say without any doubt that Americans are some of the nicest / courteous people I have ever met and I'm sure you would feel the same about us.


Thanks for the reply.

So, NZ is kind of like Berkelely... Without the freaks. :cool6:

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:43 am
by Ouchyfish
Zanchief wrote:
Ouchyfish wrote:Is hypocrisy the national dish of Canada?


Yes, along with Stopbeingadouchebagitwasajoke.


:asshole:

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:44 am
by Zanchief
Gypsiyee wrote:
Zanchief wrote:Yes but "winter" is like 20 degrees (Celsius).



Sure, but I already have that in florida =)


Why do you even bother claiming its winter then? You just really have two seasons, summer, and not so much summer.

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:45 am
by Ouchyfish
Does it still rain like every day around noon down there?

(Was born there and lived there til 10)

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:39 pm
by Diekan
I lived in Europe for a couple of years... I didn't get the feel that we [Americans] were really all that hated. There were some of the older generation (World War II era) that still harbored bad feelings, but for the most part...

The Germans in particular hate the Turks... not the Americans who are there. I won't get into a long drawn out explanation on the why, just suffice to say "think Mexico."

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:42 pm
by Naethyn
Pensacola owns every other place I've ever been to. I love it here.

Re: Gyp.. Why do kiwi's hate America..

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:43 pm
by Ouchyfish
That's the shitty touristy side. Go to Gulf Shores, AL...it's MUCH better. The closer to Dauphin Island the better.