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In the article on CNN's page it says the police could not confirm if anything was stolen yet, whatever thats worth

Gaazy wrote:In the article on CNN's page it says the police could not confirm if anything was stolen yet, whatever thats worth

I'm surprised they didn't find a way to blame it on George Bush...

10sun wrote:What did they steal?

Nothing.

lyion wrote:
Second, Taylor is a self described tough guy. We know he has firearms as he's been arrested for brandishing them before. The story she's telling is he confronted an intruder with a Machete?? Red Flag

Because of the prior incedent regarding brandishing a fire arm at individuals he thought stole his ATVs, it was court ordered that it was illegal for him to own a gun.

I'd like to refer back to the person who said no one has a machete.

No one pulls out knives on trick-or-treaters either. Oh wait...

pwned

tee hee hee

Griever wrote:No one pulls out knives on trick-or-treaters either. Oh wait...

No one goes out trick or treating here, for one. Any parent worth a shit brings their kids a town or two over.

Two, anyone with a mask in this neighborhood running up to you usually means you're about to get stabbed. Though I doubt that you've ever been somewhere dangerous in your entire life.

I love how you try to spin the fact that since you live in the ghetto that it somehow makes you better or tougher than anyone else

No, it's just funny listening to people's comments like they have any idea what it's like up here.

I can't wait to be far, far away from this drug infested niggerhole.

Harrison wrote:No, it's just funny listening to people's comments like they have any idea what it's like up here.

I can't wait to be far, far away from this drug infested niggerhole.

And it's funny listening to you act like you have any idea why a person would own a machete. Maybe for self-defense? Maybe because he lives in a bad neighborhood? Hmm, sounds familiar.

You're pretty damned retarded.

The entire point I was making is exactly that. Someone ELSE said that no one would own a machete for those purposes, or other than its intended use.

lol

Harrison wrote:You're pretty damned retarded.

The entire point I was making is exactly that. Someone ELSE said that no one would own a machete for those purposes, or other than its intended use.

There's a world of difference between keeping a machete in your house somewhere and brandishing around on the street at random people.

Ouchyfish wrote:lol

and I work in Camden....

You guys should be nicer to Harrison. It can't be easy to be beat up, have multiple health issues, almost get attacked by a machete wielding kid and on top of that, he's poor and lives in a ghetto. Seriously he has it bad, have some sympathy.

Not to mention the stress of having a -perfect- (ex?) girlfriend.

The Onion's Take

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_br ... previously

Good AP Story, that moreso covers my thoughts. The bold points cover my belief that this dude would not be fighting an intruder with a Machete. I bet he had a glock 2 feet away.

Cards' Rolle: Slain NFL star had many enemies
Associated Press

TEMPE - Still in disbelief of his childhood friend's shooting death, Arizona Cardinals cornerback Antrel Rolle vowed Wednesday to make sure Sean Taylor is remembered.

He added he did not believe the killing was part of a burglary gone sour, and that Taylor had many enemies on the streets of Miami.

"This was not the first incident," Rolle said. "They've been targeting him for three years now."

Rolle said many former "friends" had it in for Taylor, who was trying to build a more stable life.

"He really didn't say too much," Rolle said, "but I know he lived his life pretty much scared every day of his life when he was down in Miami because those people were targeting him. At least, he's got peace now."

Rolle and Taylor, whose fathers were policemen in Homestead, Fla., started playing football together when they were 6 years old. They went on to become University of Miami teammates and NFL first-round draft picks. Both wore No. 21, Rolle for the Cardinals, Taylor for the Washington Redskins.

Rolle said he hadn't talked to Taylor in a while, and that the Redskin had withdrawn from the crowd he hung around with to build a new life with his girlfriend and young daughter.

"There was so much surrounding him," Rolle said. "Everyone was talking about him bad, so he just had to distance himself from everyone and live a life of his own. ... Within the last year, I've never seen anyone make such a dramatic change,"

Withdrawing from a bad crowd isn't easy, though, Rolle said.

"They say it was a burglary. It absolutely was not a burglary," he said. "Down South, where we're from, there were many people talking to Sean, a lot of jealousy, a lot of angry people.

"Sean, he had a large group of friends, and he no longer hung out with those friends, so you never know where this came from."

Rolle said his family rushed to the hospital to be with Taylor's family following the shooting.

"It really hasn't hit me yet," Rolle said, "the fact that I'm never going to see his face again, his ways, him performing on the field. My heart goes out to his girlfriend, his family, his little kid."

Rolle will leave immediately after Sunday's game against Cleveland on a flight to Miami, where he will attend Monday's memorial service. But Rolle wants fans to keep remembering Taylor as the player he was and the man he was becoming after some rough years.

"I'm going to keep his name alive," Rolle said. "Every time I make a play, I'm definitely going to mention him. I'm going to represent my 21 as his 21."

Rolle said he and Taylor became friends as 6-year-old teammates for the Homestead Hurricanes. Later, when they played against each other, Rolle was a running back and Taylor a linebacker.

"They'd call a sweep one way," Rolle said. "I would look at him on that side, and I would change the play myself and go the other way because I knew he would try to knock my head off."

Rolle was an All-American as a senior in 2004 and was picked eighth overall by the Cardinals. A year before, Taylor earned similar honors at Miami, then went to Washington as the fifth overall choice.

"I definitely will go out there and play and do everything I can do because I know how much he loved the game," Rolle said. "I don't think there was anyone who lived it or took it as seriously as he did. I just told myself I'm not going to let his name die. We started when we were 6 years old, and we're going to finish it together."

Haylo wrote:You guys should be nicer to Harrison. It can't be easy to be beat up, have multiple health issues, almost get attacked by a machete wielding kid and on top of that, he's poor and lives in a ghetto. Seriously he has it bad, have some sympathy.

Have I told you lately how much I miss you? o.O

Haylo wrote:You guys should be nicer to Harrison. It can't be easy to be beat up, have multiple health issues, almost get attacked by a machete wielding kid and on top of that, he's poor and lives in a ghetto. Seriously he has it bad, have some sympathy.

I can't remember, he is still a virgin? That would be reason for sympathy too.

Damn

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442

Taylor's death a grim reminder for us all
Jason Whitlock / FOXSports.com

There's a reason I call them the Black KKK. The pain, the fear and the destruction are all the same.

Someone who loved Sean Taylor is crying right now. The life they knew has been destroyed, an 18-month-old baby lost her father, and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy of violent death.

The Black KKK claimed another victim, a high-profile professional football player with a checkered past this time.

No, we don't know for certain the circumstances surrounding Taylor's death. I could very well be proven wrong for engaging in this sort of aggressive speculation. But it's no different than if you saw a fat man fall to the ground clutching his chest. You'd assume a heart attack, and you'd know, no matter the cause, the man needed to lose weight.

Well, when shots are fired and a black man hits the pavement, there's every statistical reason to believe another black man pulled the trigger. That's not some negative, unfair stereotype. It's a reality we've been living with, tolerating and rationalizing for far too long.

When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions.

Our new millennium strategy is to pray the Black KKK goes away or ignores us. How's that working?

About as well as the attempt to shift attention away from this uniquely African-American crisis by focusing on an "injustice" the white media allegedly perpetrated against Sean Taylor.

Within hours of his death, there was a story circulating that members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past

No disrespect to Taylor, but he controlled the way he would be remembered by the way he lived. His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you've been murdered.

Marcellus Wiley, a former NFL player, made the radio circuit Wednesday, singing the tune that athletes are targets. That was his explanation for the murders of Taylor and Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams and the armed robberies of NBA players Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry.

Really?

Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective. These bullets aren't checking W-2s.

Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees.

But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant.

Our self-hatred has been set to music and reinforced by a pervasive culture that promotes a crab-in-barrel mentality.

You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.

Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change.

Does a Soulja Boy want an education?

HBO did a fascinating documentary on Little Rock Central High School, the Arkansas school that required the National Guard so that nine black kids could attend in the 1950s. Fifty years later, the school is one of the nation's best in terms of funding and educational opportunities. It's 60 percent black and located in a poor black community.

Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter.

Blame drugs, blame Ronald Reagan, blame George Bush, blame it on the rain or whatever. There's only one group of people who can change the rotten, anti-education, pro-violence culture our kids have adopted. We have to do it.

According to reports, Sean Taylor had difficulty breaking free from the unsavory characters he associated with during his youth.

The "keepin' it real" mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There's always someone ready to tell you you're selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you're selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.

The Black KKK is enforcing the same crippling standards as its parent organization. It wants to keep black men in their place — uneducated, outside the mainstream and six feet deep.

In all likelihood, the Black Klan and its mentality buried Sean Taylor, and any black man or boy reading this could be next.

Lyion: I'm in complete agreement that it was no way in hell a burglary. My objection earlier in the thread was your implication that the GF was behind it or had something to do with it. That made no sense, and the more I hear about it, makes even less sense.

Also, I repeat: he was convicted for a gun-related crime, yes? It is universal in such cases for part of the judgment to be a stricture against owning any firearms. If he really was trying to make a clean break and live right, I think it pretty likely that he would be following the rules of his sentence, don't you? Thus, without a gun for home defense, he gets a machete, which you must admit could be rather intimidating when brandished against a more typical thief. Just not someone who's there to deliberately assassinate him.

-Arlos

the part that bothers me is that supposedly he's afraid to live in miami

wtf would you continue to live there then?

it's not like he can't afford to pick up and move

who knows maybe live in the town where you're employed?!?!

Arlos wrote:Also, I repeat: he was convicted for a gun-related crime, yes? It is universal in such cases for part of the judgment to be a stricture against owning any firearms. If he really was trying to make a clean break and live right, I think it pretty likely that he would be following the rules of his sentence, don't you? Thus, without a gun for home defense, he gets a machete, which you must admit could be rather intimidating when brandished against a more typical thief. Just not someone who's there to deliberately assassinate him.

No, he was never convicted of a gun related crime. Accused, yes, and it's known he brandished a gun at people he suspected had stolen his ATVs. This was reduced to disorderly conduct or something. He had great lawyer representation.

Again, given he had homies out to nail him who he most certainly knew would be carrying heat, and someone had broken into his house before and left a knife on his bed one would think he'd at a minimum have a shotgun in the house to not show up with the proverbial knife in a gunfight.

The only people who use Machete's to defend themselves are zombies and the extra's in Stephen Seagal flicks. Certainly not a multi millionaire self described tough guy who was in fear of his life.