Harrison wrote:I'm going to be getting college credits from most of my training anyways. So it's not wasted, plus job experience in the field.
O man, I would never say service to our country is a waste so please don't think I was implying that. I think what you've choosen to do is honorable as I feel anyone towards anyone that's served.
I was just saying it isn't free
I do wish you the best though and hope things work out as planned. edit good golly some of my typos are horrendous
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As a Senior NCO with 17+ years of service so far, let me say congrats! A couple things though, take it or leave it, up to you.
- There is going to be plenty of dumb fucks that you have to say "Yes Sir"to and not just during basic. Basic is the easy part, it's the day to day bullshit that you just have to check your ego at the door and give in to the team concept.
- If you get the chance, go overseas. Korea, Japan, Europe..travel on the government's dime. It's awesome.
- Take CLEP's / Dantes constantly -- free college credits, and you're a smart guy, should be easy for you.
- The "new GI Bill" that was approved this year is outstanding. Basically it's 3 paid years at most schools in the country, plus a housing stipend (E5 w/dependent rate BAH ~$1000 a month) if you are going full time. Check into it. Also transferable to dependents with certain restrictions.
my friend chris (nedderman, alex!) is in seoul right now in the army. he just graduated from academy in texas and got shipped out. he also met his now-wife at academy, so that's cool.
also: i wish i could afford to buy gym memberships for some of my friends. i need the company (six workouts a week by myself is kind of lonely) and they need the motivation. but i just can't swing it.
Foutty wrote:As a Senior NCO with 17+ years of service so far, let me say congrats! A couple things though, take it or leave it, up to you.
- There is going to be plenty of dumb fucks that you have to say "Yes Sir"to and not just during basic. Basic is the easy part, it's the day to day bullshit that you just have to check your ego at the door and give in to the team concept.
- If you get the chance, go overseas. Korea, Japan, Europe..travel on the government's dime. It's awesome.
- Take CLEP's / Dantes constantly -- free college credits, and you're a smart guy, should be easy for you.
- The "new GI Bill" that was approved this year is outstanding. Basically it's 3 paid years at most schools in the country, plus a housing stipend (E5 w/dependent rate BAH ~$1000 a month) if you are going full time. Check into it. Also transferable to dependents with certain restrictions.
Have fun and don't sweat the small stuff.
Yeah, I can go to school anywhere and essentially get paid through the G.I. bill to party. Because I won't need to pay for tuition or housing...
I don't have any dependents and don't plan on gaining any.
As far as the traveling, I plan on it. I want to go to Germany.
Drem wrote:Credit for what? physical education and maybe some math or something?
I'll be getting credits through my time during AIT. They almost all directly translate depending on your MOS.(job)
How do you like this spoiler, motherfucker? -Lyion
Well, it seems I will be a 25b within a week or so. Information Systems Operator/Analyst.
I'm not 100% sure though. So I'm taking the time to do some reading, talk it over, etc.
It's coincidentally one of their critical needs at the moment so I will get an extra $350/mo on top of my $317/mo while going to college for free. 2 years non-deployed minimum, too.
So, free tuition to state colleges and universities, roughly $700/mo for anything I choose directly into my account, and I can't be deployed during my 2 year commitment.
How do you like this spoiler, motherfucker? -Lyion
I've spent the last five years working special duty for the CIA, its been an incredible experience. Now it's time to move on so I put in for a 1 year remote. My choices are 1. Diego Garcia, 2. Greece, 3. Korea and 4. Greenland. I should know next month where I'm headed. I'm really hoping for DG, but would be happy with any of them.
Harrison wrote:I know what you mean. I'm not really too worried about it. I was initially going to go straight to active duty, so being deployed isn't scaring me.
I actually wouldn't mind it. I would like to travel a bit.
I just hope you stay away from the combat arms unless it's what you really want to do. If it is, then more power to you and you should indeed go for it. Having 12 years in, I can say that I had met far too many troops who ended up hating life because they chose a combat arms MOS and didn't try to get into something more suited to their interests for their after service life.
Commo is a great field btw. You get to work with the coolest of technology.
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Foutty wrote:I've spent the last five years working special duty for the CIA, its been an incredible experience. Now it's time to move on so I put in for a 1 year remote. My choices are 1. Diego Garcia, 2. Greece, 3. Korea and 4. Greenland. I should know next month where I'm headed. I'm really hoping for DG, but would be happy with any of them.
whoa. for real? i suddenly love you if you're serious
Yep, true. It's not as sexy as you think, but it's definitely eye opening. Here in Northern VA, it seems everyone works for the Intelligence Community in one way or the other. That's way having a clearance goes such a long way (preferably with a CI and Lifestyle poly). No degree, minimum experience with a poly can get you around $80k starting off as a contractor--and you never have to worry about outsourcing.
I picked all of them, just waiting to see what I got.
Kahar used to have TS/SBI clearance while he was in the Navy. I think he's just got a Secret clearance now. Having that clearance really does help open doors. You just have to avoid visiting certain countries. He was bitterly disappointed that when they visited China he wasn't allowed off the sub so he could see the Great Wall.
Not really sure what my point was...
Inside each person lives two wolves. One is loyal, kind, respectful, humble and open to the mystery of life. The other is greedy, jealous, hateful, afraid and blind to the wonders of life. They are in battle for your spirit. The one who wins is the one you feed.
Foutty wrote:Yep, true. It's not as sexy as you think, but it's definitely eye opening. Here in Northern VA, it seems everyone works for the Intelligence Community in one way or the other. That's way having a clearance goes such a long way (preferably with a CI and Lifestyle poly). No degree, minimum experience with a poly can get you around $80k starting off as a contractor--and you never have to worry about outsourcing.
I picked all of them, just waiting to see what I got.
It never is as sexy as the adds. All these people flooding the foresnics field because the watched CSI too many times LOL.... not having a clue that real forensics is nothing like that shitty show.
hahaha got that right. A buddy of mine is in law school and hew as laughin at that shit the other day. On the show they can immediately get fingerprint and dna info and all that shit, but in RL, at least in WV, the State Police is backed up over a year in their forensics cases for that info.
Yep, not to mention in the real world "Forensics" techs don't carry guns, chase down suspects, and conduct independent investigations or interrogations.
In the real world the first person at a crime scene is a uniform (a.k.a patrolman). They evaluate the area to make sure it’s safe for them, then if there is a victim they’ll check them out and provide aid, call an ambulance, etc. If the victim is dead, they’ll tape off the area, sequester the crime scene and call for detectives. Once the detectives get there a CSU (crime scene unit) is called for. You don’t even need a degree for this job, just complete a certification and some courses. They’ll bag and tag the evidence, take photographs and so forth. The ME will determine cause and time of death, usually after an autopsy. Once the evidence has been bagged up it is sent to the state crime lab with a chain of custody form. That’s it… that’s the last time the CSU ever sees the evidence unless they are called by the prosecution to testify on their collection methods. Once the evidence gets to the crime lab the “white coats” will process it and provide a report of their conclusions to the prosecution and defense. They’ll never see it again unless they’re called into court as well.
That’s it. That’s typically how it works. No gun fights, no hostile interrogations, no high speed boat chases.
Never fails! There was a chick all through high school I wanted to bang like no tomorrow. FINALLY got date with her... finally got her interested.... two weeks before I shipped off to Basic. I didn't even bother asking her to "wait." When I got back she had already gotten a new man...
Of course you can't blame an 18 year old chick for wanting to go out and have a good time... It's all good.