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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:53 pm
by Tacks
I agree=/
And everyone said Vivendi buying Blizzard wouldn't be a big deal...
I can't wait till that fucking company goes out of business.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:55 pm
by Lyion
At least Vivendi doesn't appear to be meddling as much as SOE does with EQ2.
Plus, weren't they trying to sell Blizzard earlier in the year? Although I crige at the thought of EA or MS buying them....
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:56 pm
by Harrison
If microsoft buys it, I boycott.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:59 pm
by Tacks
Yeah EA wanted Blizzard and Blizzard was like...uh no thx.
I wish they'd just go independant. I think they could do it.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:37 pm
by Lyion
Taxx wrote:Yeah EA wanted Blizzard and Blizzard was like...uh no thx.
I wish they'd just go independant. I think they could do it.
Absolutely. Either that or go to NCSoft. They seem to treat their teams better than the corporate dickheads of the US and Euro Companies.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:36 pm
by Project DARC
Lyion wrote:Taxx wrote:Yeah EA wanted Blizzard and Blizzard was like...uh no thx.
I wish they'd just go independant. I think they could do it.
Absolutely. Either that or go to NCSoft. They seem to treat their teams better than the corporate dickheads of the US and Euro Companies.
they could do alot worse than NCSoft, if it came down to it.
ive probably had the best customer service out of any game corp from them with great response time and competant answers.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:10 pm
by Crogon Niggerlark
Such negativity...
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:43 pm
by Naginataka
NCsoft really knows what they are doingfor MMORPGs. SOE/SE/Blizzard etc should FEAR them now that they have started to break into the US market.
Anyway, I think Blizaards delay is because they are scared. The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there. WOW backs off to try to keep sales from being hurt too much since they cannot be ready in time to release on the 8th.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:07 am
by Tikker
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:27 am
by Arlos
Actually, how much do you want to bet that Open Beta for WOW starts on the 7th or 8th? Think about it: You can pay 60 bucks for EQ2, and play it in its horribly buggy and laggy initial state, or you can play WOW for free. By 2 weeks, when WOW goes live, you're going to have a lot of people who're WOW addicts, and bigger sales at WOW launch. They get to nullify the supposed "advantage" SOE gets by rushing EQ2 out the door weeks early, up their own sales, show how much more polished their game is compared to EQ2, and all by doing something they were planning anyway. Would be brilliant.
-Arlos
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:47 am
by The Kizzy
Lyion wrote:parsed quote wrote:Thanks for the interest and understanding that I'm a worthless PR prop not given any actual relevant information ahead of time. While we are waiting our bosses approval for the open beta period and also when Vivendi will permit us to release our game, we are confident that we will meet our goal of shipping the game exactly when they tell us to. Nailing down an exact ship date is a little more complicated due to Vivendi not deciding when after Half Life 2 we should ship, yet. As soon as we are told what date to announce by the corporate suits, we will be excited to share the news with everyone. Please don't consider any announced release dates official until such an announcement comes from Viv, er, Blizzard. This is true for all announcements related to V, er, Blizzard games. - Caydiem -
10 dollar an hour Internet Lapdog, Vivendi, er, Blizzard
NEGATIVITY
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:50 am
by The Kizzy
Arlos wrote:Actually, how much do you want to bet that Open Beta for WOW starts on the 7th or 8th? Think about it: You can pay 60 bucks for EQ2, and play it in its horribly buggy and laggy initial state, or you can play WOW for free. By 2 weeks, when WOW goes live, you're going to have a lot of people who're WOW addicts, and bigger sales at WOW launch. They get to nullify the supposed "advantage" SOE gets by rushing EQ2 out the door weeks early, up their own sales, show how much more polished their game is compared to EQ2, and all by doing something they were planning anyway. Would be brilliant.
-Arlos
Did I not basically say the same thing?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:00 am
by Tacks
Naginataka wrote:Anyway, I think Blizaards delay is because they are scared. The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there. WOW backs off to try to keep sales from being hurt too much since they cannot be ready in time to release on the 8th.
LMAO= Laughing my ass off
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:41 am
by Langston
Naginataka wrote:NCsoft really knows what they are doingfor MMORPGs. SOE/SE/Blizzard etc should FEAR them now that they have started to break into the US market.
Anyway, I think Blizaards delay is because they are scared. The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there. WOW backs off to try to keep sales from being hurt too much since they cannot be ready in time to release on the 8th.
Uhhh... I hope you weren't planning on a career in marketing. You suck at it. You seem to have zero understanding of the principles.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:32 am
by Tacks
The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there.
Once again I must laugh at this.
1) Do you think NOBODY at Blizz was in the EQ2 beta?
2) Once the NDA was lifted the majority of tester's views were negative...
3) Do you honestly think Blizz is "scared" whenever they haven't even announced a release date and are actually sticking to their "projected" release date that everyone is talking about?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:40 am
by Lyion
Taxx wrote:The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there.
Once again I must laugh at this.
1) Do you think NOBODY at Blizz was in the EQ2 beta?
2) Once the NDA was lifted the majority of tester's views were negative...
3) Do you honestly think Blizz is "scared" whenever they haven't even announced a release date and are actually sticking to their "projected" release date that everyone is talking about?
Except Blizzard's release date is driven by Vivendi and Half Life 2, not EQ2. That's pretty well established. Blizzard needs to release this quarter to booast Vivendi's sad stock dividends.
EQ2 is a good game and will do well. There is a lot of negative buzz about EQ2, but most of it is from the WOW fanbois, and not subjective to the possibilities the game has of being very good.
I'll admit I like WOW better than EQ2, but that's just a personal decision. EQ2 to me is a good game with great potential.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:43 am
by Martrae
After Horizons every time I hear a game has 'potential' I cringe.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:54 am
by Tacks
So Lyion, you agree then, that Blizzard's release date has nothing to do with them being "scared" of EQ2 and has everything to do with Vivendi being jacka$$es?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:58 am
by Lyion
Taxx wrote:So Lyion, you agree then, that Blizzard's release date has nothing to do with them being "scared" of EQ2 and has everything to do with Vivendi being jacka$$es?
Yep. I'd bet the Blizzard crew wants a few more months, but Vivendi is running the show.
WOW is a better game than EQ2 right now, and has as much hype. There's nothing to fear there.
Martrae wrote:After Horizons every time I hear a game has 'potential' I cringe.
EQ2 is a good game right now, though. I attribute potential more to Shadowbane. The potential to crash my PC nonstop.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:59 am
by Harrison
Problems while playing EQ2 for 2 days, 3 today ongoing...
None.
Lag? None
Crashes? None
Patcher crashing? None
It's incredibly similar to WoW right now, just at a slower pace. I suspect it will change 15+
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:43 am
by DangerPaul
Martrae wrote:After Horizons every time I hear a game has 'potential' I cringe.
/agree
I was so disappointed in that game, pretty much the reason I stopped gaming.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:02 pm
by Naginataka
Ugzugz wrote:Naginataka wrote:NCsoft really knows what they are doingfor MMORPGs. SOE/SE/Blizzard etc should FEAR them now that they have started to break into the US market.
Anyway, I think Blizaards delay is because they are scared. The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there. WOW backs off to try to keep sales from being hurt too much since they cannot be ready in time to release on the 8th.
Uhhh... I hope you weren't planning on a career in marketing. You suck at it. You seem to have zero understanding of the principles.
Nah, I was just posting the exact same BS the Blizzard dick suckers keep posting to see how they respond to an equally stupid idea.
And i was right, they are blinded by Blizzard jizz in their eyes.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:05 pm
by Naginataka
Taxx wrote:The EQ2 NDA lifted and all of a sudden it becomes clear that there is a great game there.
Once again I must laugh at this.
1) Do you think NOBODY at Blizz was in the EQ2 beta?
2) Once the NDA was lifted the majority of tester's views were negative...
3) Do you honestly think Blizz is "scared" whenever they haven't even announced a release date and are actually sticking to their "projected" release date that everyone is talking about?
1- Does it matter? PR was for Blizzard until the NDa lifter.
2- Wow, I have read good and bad reviews, the majority have been great. Maybe you should get off the blizzard forums.
3- Blizz Jizz.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:05 pm
by Tacks
And you're blinded by Smedley's jizz in your eyes.
Are you going to play WoW at release?
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:17 pm
by Naginataka
I doubt it. Between research, teaching, med school, and the evil infant I only get about 8 hours a week for games if I am lucky. Basicly I need to choose one or the other and EQ2 offers so much more.
If I had more time yeah I would play both, WOW is a good game, its just nothing new. EQ2 is a better game even though with my sched it will be harder to play since advancing will be so much slower in comparison.
I also can't see WOW holding people's attention as long. More of a COH than an EQ.