The 2004/2005 *NBA Talk* thread

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:02 pm

Nope, we were last year... only lost 5 at home... some of which were stupid fucking losses... Atlanta, Denver and the Clippers.

Rotj · Post by **Rotj** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:27 pm

Yeah, so it wasn't a pretty game to watch. But after the heartbreak last year (ie. Dallas destroying us by 30 pts)..I'll take any win they get.

Malluas · Post by **Malluas** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:17 am

nah vonk i was sayin the last 4 or 5 years

yea i kno dallas was best last year hehe

Xaiveir · Post by **Xaiveir** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:12 pm

Sonics are 4-1 and they have beat the Spurs, Nuggets and Kings by 19, 20 and 30 points, respectively.

Still early, but Lewis and Allen look like they are one of the best 1-2 punches in basketball atm. NBA.com has em ranked 8th overall. Im telling you playoff bound

:wink:

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:26 pm

There are two teams that I just don't know anything about. This is for a number of reasons, they don't get any pub in Canada, there games dont play on tv, and they are always boring to watch. One is Seattle, the other is Golden State.

I know most of you probably feel the same way about Toronto because everytime anyone attempts to comment on the Raps they are WAY off but thats just how I feel.

Seattle VS Golden State....worst game of the year.

Malluas · Post by **Malluas** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:00 pm

nah worst game would be something like GS vs Washington bobcats are better than both those teams thats how far they have fallen hehe

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:26 pm

Do you mean Washington Wizards or Charlotte Bobcats? Your statement is correct either way =p.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:29 pm

Kings > all

Mike Bibby is da shiz-nizzle.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:49 pm

http://www.mikebibby.com/

nuff said.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:06 pm

I'm not talking abot quality, just interest.

I know more about the bobcats then I do about Golden state and Seattle.

Malluas · Post by **Malluas** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:10 am

hehe vonk i missed a comma there i was sayin GS vs washington would suck... bobcats are better than both teams

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:36 am

nuff said? Meaning, you don't know enough about basketball to formulate your own opinion? Just go back and read Malluas' posts in this thread... he worships the BibbyCack much harder than you... and he's lived there forever =p.

Bibby is great but the rest of your team is questionable (for the season). I'd say my two favorites are Bobby Jackson and Bibby... they show up every night with the same drive.

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:20 am

Zan...

what do you think about this?

Nash seems to love this guy...

biggest quote...

"They questioned his commitment? That's bulls---," said Nash. "(Triano's firing) is asinine. It's horrendous ... I never say never, but I doubt if I'll ever play for Canada again."

With those words, Nash shook his head and rubbed a towel against his freshly washed locks.

I left the 'freshly washed locks' bit in because it's fucking hilarious... Nash is so girly haha. He's like Prince Charming from Shrek 2. But... anyway, that's a pretty big deal... best player in Canadias(sic) history saying he'll likely never play for them again.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:56 am

Yea I heard about the firing about 2 weeks ago.

Understandable that he's upset since Triano has been coaching him off and on for the better part of a decade but I'm sure he'll come down later.

Oh well.

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:47 pm

Dirk's game tonight...

31 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 steals...

When are people going to start putting him in the same category as Tim and Kevin? He does it all man... 7 rebounds is his lowest this year. He's also probably the most coachable player in the league. After his first 'starting' year, he was told that he needs to work on rebounding. So... next year, he adds 3rpg to his line. Next, he's told he needs to assist more... so, he improves his apg by 50%. All the while, his ppg is going from 8 to 17 to 22 to 24 to 25... This year, he's told he needs to SCORE more... to be THE MAN... score, assist, rebound... oh yeah, and defend better. He's currently the anchor to the most defensive Dallas team in 10 years... all the while leading the teams in assists... a 7 foot power forward leading in almost every category.

He's now 4 for 7 on double doubles and the three games where he missed that, he made up for the single-digit rebounds by averaging 4blocks, 4 assists and a couple steals each. That's 'game altering' right there.

He's awesome.

Rzail · Post by **Rzail** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:44 pm

vonkaar wrote:Dirk's game tonight...

31 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 steals...

When are people going to start putting him in the same category as Tim and Kevin? He does it all man... 7 rebounds is his lowest this year. He's also probably the most coachable player in the league. After his first 'starting' year, he was told that he needs to work on rebounding. So... next year, he adds 3rpg to his line. Next, he's told he needs to assist more... so, he improves his apg by 50%. All the while, his ppg is going from 8 to 17 to 22 to 24 to 25... This year, he's told he needs to SCORE more... to be THE MAN... score, assist, rebound... oh yeah, and defend better. He's currently the anchor to the most defensive Dallas team in 10 years... all the while leading the teams in assists... a 7 foot power forward leading in almost every category.

He's now 4 for 7 on double doubles and the three games where he missed that, he made up for the single-digit rebounds by averaging 4blocks, 4 assists and a couple steals each. That's 'game altering' right there.

He's awesome.

I agree he IS awesome. When will he start to get mentioned with TD/KG? When the Mavs do something in the playoffs.

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:48 pm

Like KG has a resume built on deep playoff experience...

One first round knockout after another...

Rzail · Post by **Rzail** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:57 pm

Very true about KG.

Malluas · Post by **Malluas** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:21 pm

Vonk ........... cause he plays NO D thats why.. KG and Duncan can shut their men down

Malluas · Post by **Malluas** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:23 pm

what has KG had until last year? absolutely no help.... no nash or finley Dirk is out every first round.

i kno your a homer for Dallas but god damn

Rotj · Post by **Rotj** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:24 pm

Not knocking the props on Diggler..but isn't the catch on him is that he's soft? I'm probably wrong here.

Rotj · Post by **Rotj** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:28 pm

But what I do find amazing of that German fool is he manages to get his PPG average higher while INCREASING that insane FG and 3PT %. Every team needs that German shooting doctor he has on the side.

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:26 pm

Rotj wrote:But what I do find amazing of that German fool is he manages to get his PPG average higher while INCREASING that insane FG and 3PT %. Every team needs that German shooting doctor he has on the side.

While taken the same amount of shots, it's guarantee that you will increase your ppg when you increase your shooting percentage.

Rotj · Post by **Rotj** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:16 pm

Haha. So true. Opps. D:

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:40 pm

I'm not saying that he's equal to either of them... I'm saying that he's at least comparable.

Also, we've gone over the defense issue already... Dirk is playing excellent defense this year... like I predicted. His biggest weakness was in the people surrounding him. Nash couldn't guard Marv Albert. The various centers in the recent Mavs history were all shitty defenders. He's basically had... Finley, and he's a backcourt player so... wasn't as important.... that's it. All of the sudden, he's surrouned by good players... good defensive-minded players... and he's doing very well.

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