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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:17 pm
by Captain Insano
Men are the gods of war and women merely R and R... They would never even come close to overthrowing us.
I want to get that bitch in the ring who wrote that little manifesto... lets see whose fucking king of this jungle!
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:59 am
by Narrock
mofish wrote:The already indisputable evidence of the Earth's age and the existence of dinosaurs 70 million years ago will continue to pile up; your dark-age religious opinions on the subject will get more and more absurd; life will go on.
indisputable? ROFL Too bad they can't come up with a dating method that isn't severly flawed and that hasn't been proven to be extremely inaccurate.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:38 am
by Diabolik
Mindia wrote:indisputable? ROFL Too bad they can't come up with a dating method that isn't severly flawed and that hasn't been proven to be extremely inaccurate.
...proving conclusively that the first man was made of clay 6,000 years ago, and the first woman from his rib. And they got duped by a talking snake. 'Cause <i>that's</i> "indisputable."

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:23 am
by Ganzo
what's undesputable is that no one "knows" for sure, you believe we came from monkeys i do not, leave it at that
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:40 am
by Lyion
I'd post my thoughts on the inaccuracies of radiometric dating, but I'm not in the mood for 100 pages of arguments with secularists who don't have an open mind.

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:52 am
by mofish
Ganzo wrote:what's undesputable is that no one "knows" for sure, you believe we came from monkeys i do not, leave it at that
An what you believe is based on dogma. What I believe is based on evidence. Ill leave it at that.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:53 am
by mappatazee
Well now you have maybe you should make a thread about it.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:10 am
by Narrock
It's already been proven that man did not evolve from apes. Anybody who still believes that is a fool of epic proportions.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:11 am
by Langston
Mindia wrote:It's already been proven that man did not evolve from apes. Anybody who still believes that is a fool of epic proportions.
I missed this proof. Care to share it with us?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:14 am
by Narrock
Oh ok I guess you missed the fact that there are no "missing links" wandering around anywhere who would have been living proof of a transition. Don't bother talking about "homo habilus" and homo erectus" and the "duck-billed platypus" and blah blah blah. That doesn't prove anything. The proof is in the pudding. There is no missing link. Man is man. Apes are apes.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:17 am
by Langston
That's your proof?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:23 am
by DangerPaul
Mindia wrote:Oh ok I guess you missed the fact that there are no "missing links" wandering around anywhere who would have been living proof of a transition. Don't bother talking about "homo habilus" and homo erectus" and the "duck-billed platypus" and blah blah blah. That doesn't prove anything. The proof is in the pudding. There is no missing link. Man is man. Apes are apes.
Same can be said about the existance of god, there is no proof.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:29 am
by Narrock
DangerPaul wrote:Mindia wrote:Oh ok I guess you missed the fact that there are no "missing links" wandering around anywhere who would have been living proof of a transition. Don't bother talking about "homo habilus" and homo erectus" and the "duck-billed platypus" and blah blah blah. That doesn't prove anything. The proof is in the pudding. There is no missing link. Man is man. Apes are apes.
Same can be said about the existance of god, there is no proof.
I agree with you for the most part. But, there have been some significant discoveries made in recent years which back up some stories in the Bible. Like the rock that poured out water to the Israelites, and the hundreds of coralized chariot wheels and axles found at the bottom of the Red Sea in the gulf of Aqaba, etc.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:50 am
by DangerPaul
That does not prove anything about an existance of god, those if in fact are real would only prove stories that happened in a children's fantasy book.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:02 pm
by Narrock
Like I said... I agree with you for the most part. It's all faith-based. If you want to have faith in the idea that humans evolved from apes, that's your right to do so. Have fun with that philosophy while you keep banging your head into a wall trying to come up with tangible evidence. lol
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:41 pm
by DangerPaul
I never said I believed humans evolved from apes, to me its as credible as there being one supreme being that created us. I have no idea where humans came from, hell I could say we were a "deposit" here by an alien race and that is as credible as the other two. The fact that currently none of it can be proved is a stupid argument between people.
Now, add in the fact that 60% of the entire world believes there is a "god" of some sort, even if there was proof of our existence not brought in from a god, it will never be leaked. It would result in mass social breakdown and probably the fall of mankind. Most people do whats right because they are god fearing, not because of laws man has put in place to govern himself, if that fear was disolved, the world would change instantly.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:57 pm
by shiraz
What I want to know is why the movie theatre at the Gateway here in Salt Lake City can show the Work and the Glory (the story of Joseph Smith and the beginning of the mormon religion), but the IMAX won't show the volcano movie that mentions evolution.

I'll have to go see it on my next trip to Vegas I guess.....
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:50 pm
by Eziekial
DangerPaul wrote:Most people do whats right because they are god fearing, not because of laws man has put in place to govern himself, if that fear was disolved, the world would change instantly.
For the worst I believe. Secularist seem to forget this when they walk around blasting religion.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:42 pm
by mofish
Yeah cause it sure has been great, all the wars over religion, the spanish inquisition, witch burnings, the stifling of science and discovery at every turn, the dehumanization of others from different faiths, the helping along of the HIV epidemic in Africa. Yeah the world without religion would be hell.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:53 pm
by Diabolik
Don't you know morality is the exclusive domain of the religious?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:32 pm
by Harrison
If religion was to fail all at once instantaneously...this world would turn to a steaming pile of SUPER shit. (it is already a steaming pile of shit)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:35 pm
by Rust
Mindia wrote:It's already been proven that man did not evolve from apes. Anybody who still believes that is a fool of epic proportions.
Man *is* an ape, taxonomically. Our nearest extant sister species is Pan (chimpanzee). We, along with chimps, orangs, gorillas are all Hominidae.
You're clearly babbling or ignorant with your claim about how it's proven we didn't evolve from apes. What ICR tract did you hear that one in, because no sane biologist would agree with you.
For discussions of age of the earth, etc see the talk.origins FAQ archive.
http://www.talkorigins.org
Specifically:
Age of the Earth:
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-youngearth.html
Human Evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
If the Bibliolaters want to think we were created 6000 years ago, fine. They should just stop pretending about there being any actual physical evidence for it. And stop trying to get it taught in science classes.
--R.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:30 pm
by mappatazee
Mindia, what is wrong with your brain?
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:17 pm
by Tossica
mappatazee wrote:Mindia, what is wrong with your brain?
He's got

for brains
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:01 pm
by Langston
He's got chocolate softserve ice cream for brains?!