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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:26 pm
by mofish
fefn wrote:Zanchief wrote:Harrison wrote:Why in God's name would you want to plop projects in the "good" part of a city? They attract drug dealers, whores, gang activity, weapons etc. They live in shitty housing for a reason, keep them seperated until they stop selling crack and sucking dick.
Because some people can't afford good homes and I'm pretty sure not everyone who lives under the poverty line sucks dick for crack.
But who cares about poor people, as long as I don't have to see them it's not a problem.
Selfish asshole.
Just step back a sec Zan...what's the point really? I don't even think it's worth the effort talking to this ignorant fuckhead.
Truth. I gave up trying to explain anything to him a couple of months ago. Now I just skip his posts.
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:59 am
by kaharthemad
Zanchief wrote:Because some people can't afford good homes and I'm pretty sure not everyone who lives under the poverty line sucks dick for crack.
But who cares about poor people, as long as I don't have to see them it's not a problem.
Selfish asshole.
Yeah since Zan is so fucking full of compassion lets just ship the fucking gangs and the SA up to him. Then maybe we can get our damn neighborhood back
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:17 am
by Mop
i am curious as to which of you (Zan or fefn) Live next to the ghetto? I live right down the street from one of the most hardcore parts of america and drive through it daily. there is a subtle difference between poor people that need help and poor people that don't give a shit, usually the poor people that need and want help, will find a way, the people that don't well i see them on York and North ave selling rock.
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:18 am
by Lyion
Mop wrote:i am curious as to which of you (Zan or fefn) Live next to the ghetto? I live right down the street from one of the most hardcore parts of america and drive through it daily. there is a subtle difference between poor people that need help and poor people that don't give a shit, usually the poor people that need and want help, will find a way, the people that don't well i see them on York and North ave selling rock.
I'd say you are describing the difference between Baltimore and DC to a Tee, Mop.
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:58 am
by Tikker
You see the same thing everywhere
Up where I live, there's basically 3 distinct cultures(these are wide ranging generalizations, so take it with a grain of salt)
1 The whiteys = these are not always necesasarily caucasian, but generally are all middle, or upper middle class families. generally fairly well educated, and fit into mainstream life (yes, there's the general selection of no good shit disturbers in here)
2 The Natives = These are generally folks of aboriginal descent who are attempting to fit into the Whitey category. they share a fair amount of the same qualifications of the whiteys, but don't quite fit in yet because of their close association with group 3
3 the Indians = These are the folks who don't a shit about anything, take every handout they can, and piss away everything cause it doesn't matter. the government has to look after them no matter what. Ethnically, Indians and Natives are the same. the difference is that those I call Natives are respectable, while Indians are not
The only reason Natives aren't respectable, is the amount of ill will the Indians have built up for themselves
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:03 am
by Zanchief
veeneedefeesh wrote:There is a city in Louisiana named Shreveport. It is one strange city because you literally have a $350,000 house with shanties on either side of it. This isnt the exception in S'port, it is the rule. There are very few neighborhoods that were properly "Planned" so everyone just seems to build where they can find land regardless of what is next door.
S'port has a plethora of problems including crime (higher per capita murder rate than New Orleans, City of Sin) poor education, (There are literally no "good schools" because every public school is inundated with your typical "Ghetto trash"), horrible resale values on property, (who wants pay full market value to live next to a shanty?) and pollution, (why keep your yard nice when you have a crackhouse down the street and someone is just going to overdose in your front yard and stink up the place anyway).
The only reason anyone cares about that Neighborhood is cause rich people are getting fucked. A neighborhood were theres nothing but poor people? Just poor people getting fucked. Who really gives a shit about them?
Where does this obsession with money versus a persons worth come from? From the most part poor people work harder then rich people. They have no entitlement more then the wealth they accumulate.
veeneedefeesh wrote:It has been my experience that every one is happier with people of the same social standing living around them, so get off your high horse and accept that maybe it wasn't that way be design, but rather because that is just the way it worked out.
Out of sight, out of mind.
What a wonderful world, I haven't seen a poor person in days since the cops fatally beat that pan handler two days ago. Things must really be looking up in the world.
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:21 am
by Mop
btw I am all out for helping poor people that want help, but after being in baltimore for a while, most are highly strung out addicts that wont remeber you giving them money after they get their next hit.
but at least they tend to have violent tendancies
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:00 pm
by kaharthemad
yup looks like Ill start moving the gangs up to your house zan since you want to accept them with open arms. Can you give me your address? we cam start shipping the miscreants to you as soon as you provide it for us.
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:32 pm
by Zanchief
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:31 am
by Harrison
Have you ever lived in or directly near one of these projects you fucking retards?
Everyone here who has almost wholeheartedly agrees with me. You put fly paper near your house, flies will stick to it.
I don't give a fuck about rich people, I don't give a fuck about poor people.
I give a fuck about me, my friends, and my family.
Not all poor people are drug dealers etc. But if you had one iota of wisdom on the subject besides your misguided pussy(read: Liberal) views you would realize that I know from personal experience these places are a breeding ground for the worst of society.
I have lived in those shitholes twice in my life. I know what I am talking about. I would NOT wish any of them on anyone elses neighborhood.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:46 am
by The Kizzy
She didnt say low income housing had moved into her neighboorhood. She said they moved a SALVATION ARMY into her neighboorhood. There is a huge difference. People who live in low income housing at least have a job and are trying to make ends meet. People who stay at the SA are either to sick to keep a job (sick as in Mental problems) or to lazy and are opnly out for a free buck, which means stealing.
Martrae you should have oted against this.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:52 am
by Martrae
It was in motion before we moved in.
From what I hear from the neighbors tho, they basically held a meeting and told everyone it was going in and there was nothing the neighborhood could do about it so get used to the idea.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:31 pm
by Zanchief
Harrison wrote:Have you ever lived in or directly near one of these projects you fucking retards?
Everyone here who has almost wholeheartedly agrees with me. You put fly paper near your house, flies will stick to it.
I don't give a fuck about rich people, I don't give a fuck about poor people.
I give a fuck about me, my friends, and my family.
Not all poor people are drug dealers etc. But if you had one iota of wisdom on the subject besides your misguided pussy(read: Liberal) views you would realize that I know from personal experience these places are a breeding ground for the worst of society.
I have lived in those shitholes twice in my life. I know what I am talking about. I would NOT wish any of them on anyone elses neighborhood.
Thats why something needs to be done to control the situation before these neighborhoods get out of hand.
If you were smart you would understand how. Do you?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:32 pm
by Zanchief
Kizzy wrote:She didnt say low income housing had moved into her neighboorhood. She said they moved a SALVATION ARMY into her neighboorhood. There is a huge difference. People who live in low income housing at least have a job and are trying to make ends meet. People who stay at the SA are either to sick to keep a job (sick as in Mental problems) or to lazy and are opnly out for a free buck, which means stealing.
Martrae you should have oted against this.
And had they voted against it were would they put the SA Kizzy?
Answer: In another neighborhood.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:36 pm
by Harrison
I.
Don't.
Care.
If my family can find a way out of the "ghetto", they can.
When you drive by these projects or go into them and see a handful of brand new Mercedes, BMW, Audi's etc. you start to not care.
They can afford this but stay in their projects?...I almost feel pity for these people...almost...
Fuck them in their stupid asses.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:45 pm
by brinstar
why do you care? it's not like your taxes are going to pay for their food stamps
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:47 pm
by Zanchief
Harrison wrote:I.
Don't.
Care.
If my family can find a way out of the "ghetto", they can.
When you drive by these projects or go into them and see a handful of brand new Mercedes, BMW, Audi's etc. you start to not care.
They can afford this but stay in their projects?...I almost feel pity for these people...almost...
Fuck them in their stupid asses.
You don't get it.
If something is done to control them, they wont get out of hand. If you ignore the problem like you, it becomes much worse.
But who cares about anyone but yourself. How are you not selfish again?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:52 pm
by Harrison
I never said I wasn't selfish...
Why should I care about these people again?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:52 pm
by Harrison
brinstar wrote:why do you care? it's not like your taxes are going to pay for their food stamps
Murders, drugs, rape, gangs...all reasons I should care.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:04 pm
by brinstar
Harrison wrote:brinstar wrote:why do you care? it's not like your taxes are going to pay for their food stamps
Murders, drugs, rape, gangs...all reasons I should care.
yeah those are good reasons to care, so why don't you?
Harrison wrote:I.
Don't.
Care.
make up your mind

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:05 pm
by Harrison
I don't care about them in the way Zanchief expects me to.
I would care if they were to be put near my friends and family's homes.
It's not that difficult to understand.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:16 pm
by Diabolik
brinstar wrote:Harrison wrote:brinstar wrote:why do you care? it's not like your taxes are going to pay for their food stamps
Murders, drugs, rape, gangs...all reasons I should care.
yeah those are good reasons to care, so why don't you?
Harrison wrote:I.
Don't.
Care.
make up your mind

this made me

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:45 pm
by Martrae
Zanchief wrote:Kizzy wrote:She didnt say low income housing had moved into her neighboorhood. She said they moved a SALVATION ARMY into her neighboorhood. There is a huge difference. People who live in low income housing at least have a job and are trying to make ends meet. People who stay at the SA are either to sick to keep a job (sick as in Mental problems) or to lazy and are opnly out for a free buck, which means stealing.
Martrae you should have oted against this.
And had they voted against it were would they put the SA Kizzy?
Answer: In another neighborhood.
Did you even read what I wrote about tons of farms available here, you moron? They didn't need to stick in in a residential neighborhood, they just wanted to. Do you get it now?
If they had put it on a farm they could have taught some of these a skill (farm work, and since this is a farming area they would be learning something useful). At the very least they could have required them to do work on the farm and so weed out the lazy deadbeats.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:43 pm
by The Kizzy
Lets send them all to Ottawa, they will feel right at home at Zanchief's place
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:41 pm
by Zanchief
Kizzy wrote:Lets send them all to Ottawa, they will feel right at home at Zanchief's place
Send em to Ohio, we can form a line outside Kizzy's place. That should keep em busy for a while.