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Tossica wrote:This is actually pretty cool. We can now lobotomize women to the point of being brain dead and keep them alive just to make babies. I'm sure this will be a much cheaper route than the whole courtship, marriage, divorce cycle we are in now.

xaoshaen wrote:

Tossica wrote:This is actually pretty cool. We can now lobotomize women to the point of being brain dead and keep them alive just to make babies. I'm sure this will be a much cheaper route than the whole courtship, marriage, divorce cycle we are in now.

Of course, you're assuming that the babies are the desired outcome, rather than the byproduct of the intended *cough* outcome.

Mindia wrote:

veeneedefeesh wrote:I realize this is probably a fruitless task, but I will try to break it down for you Mindia. you posted

Countdown started as to when the husband tells the doctors to "pull the plug" and then tells the press that it was "his wife's wish to him."

This gives the impression that YOU think that he will be killing off his wife and you DON'T approve of that action. Note the condescending attitude and general self-righteous tone of the statement.
Zanchief responded by saying

She's brain-dead fucknut.

implying that she was already dead and that your approval of this was not an issue since she was dead already for all intents and purposes. Also he leveled an insult your way by calling you a fucknut. This implies that he thinks you are an oxygen thief and that your genetic material would be much better utilized if it were part of a higher organism say... some sort of bacteria

I don't need anything broken down for me, Einstein. My entire point was I see this turning into another fiasco like the Terry Schiavo case. That's it.

Arlos wrote:OK, Mindia, honest question. What would YOU do if you were the one making the decision on what to do here?

Lets start with the basic premise: The woman is completely brain-dead, and suffering from cancer that is continuing to spread throughout her body. Zero hope of ever recovering.

So, what do YOU think should happen?

1) She should continue to be kept on artificial life support.
Sub-question to this: Who pays for it if so? Life support is insanely expensive, unlikely the family can afford it or that insurance would cover it, nor is it fair to ask taxpayers to foot the bill.

2) They should pull the plug and let her body die, catching up to her brain which is already dead?

So which is it? #1 or #2, and why?

-Arlos

Mindia wrote:Well, if she is truly brain-dead then she can't feel any pain, right? Then if her condition is so advanced, like they claim, then she would only be able to sustain life for a few more weeks or a couple months, yes? Then I say just keep her on the LS until she dies.

Sub-question to this: Who pays for it if so? Life support is insanely expensive, unlikely the family can afford it or that insurance would cover it, nor is it fair to ask taxpayers to foot the bill.

Kizzy wrote:I hate to agree with Mindia twice in one week , but if it were one of my sons, or a spouse, I would do what ever I could to come up with the money. Also, I think it's illegal to take someone off os lifesupport for not paying the bill.

March 22, 2005
Sun Hudson, a six-month old Texas baby died last week when health care providers at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston, Texas removed his life support system over the objections of his mother. The action was authorized under the 1999 Futile Care Law which was signed into law by then-Gov. George W. Bush.

Under the Texas Futile Care Law, health care workers are allowed to remove expensive life support for terminally ill patients if the patient or family is unable to pay the medical bills.

Sun Hudson's mother is dealing with the aftermath of that law. "This hospital was considered a miracle hospital. When it came to my son, they gave up in six months," Wanda Hudson told reporters how she was forced to give up medical control of her son. "I talked to him, I told him that I loved him. Inside of me, my son is still alive."

The hospital had blocked the media from the child, despite mother's invitation to see the baby. "I wanted y'all to see my son for yourself. So you could see he was actually moving around. He was conscious," she said.

A Web site was set up to help raise money for the family's mounting medical bills, and as of two weeks ago, people from around the world had donated around $400,000. The family said it must pay tens of thousands of dollars each week that insurance does not cover.

Mindia wrote:So now let's kill her because she's worthless.

Tuggan wrote:man, why do you damn people keep on trying to persuade mindia in your arguments? i dont believe a word mindia posts is really how he feels the majority of the time, i think hes just out to rile you fools up over and over again. you all seem to think hes the dumbest fucker on the block, yet hes got just about all of you eating this shit up. ignoring him is the best way to get rid of him.

Gypsiyee wrote:Well Tugg, honestly it's because I don't feel he's intelligent enough to set such a trap

Zanchief wrote:

Kizzy wrote:I hate to agree with Mindia twice in one week , but if it were one of my sons, or a spouse, I would do what ever I could to come up with the money. Also, I think it's illegal to take someone off os lifesupport for not paying the bill.

She's dead Kizzy.

Not to sound rude but would you embalm your son?