Why I use women for sex

[Diekan]

True, but I'm not the one who threw the first stone in this little slingfest. Virginboy just couldn't resist...

[Harrison]

Karma is a motherfucker? For all of those times I went out jumping people with 4+ of my friends?

You really are retarded straight through and completely.

A handful of the posters of this board have met and hung out with me, many have talked to me on the phone often enough, many have also played games with me for close to a decade now, a few more have known me from middle school onwards, and I GUARANTEE the first thing anyone who has known me "IRL" tells anyone who asks about me is this: "He's the nicest person I know."

Of course I'm a dickhead here to certain people, I don't get along with bad people. You, are a bad person. I don't like you or your "kind".

I got jumped by gang-bangin' "niggas" who would run like the pussies they are if it was ever a level playing field. I fucking hate fighting, but I can handle myself well and have had to in the past.

This is the second time in my life I've gotten jumped by 4+ people. Last time was in high school when someone beat up my now roommate, fair fight, no big deal. We all walked away.

They decided to "braveheart" rush at the 5 of us with 10-15 kids as we were walking away. Note that I said my roommate lost this fair fight.

One of them had one of those mini bats, maybe about a third the size of a real bat. I got cracked over the head with it enough to bloody the back of my head and tear the back of my ear a bit. I had my head slammed into the headlight of a car during this as well. I was still standing and when everything slowed down (all of my friends were down at this point, including Aryylas) I walked up to the biggest kid I could see and asked him flat-out, "what in the fuck was that for?" He punched me square in the face. I asked him again, and he again punched me in the face. I said "I'm going to ask you one last time" he punched me in the face and then he and all of his boys ran.

One of them had to be dragged back to their cars, he was in the hospital for a few days worse off than I was this most recent time. He couldn't wear a hat for a week his head was so fucked up.

I honestly felt bad for the kid. He didn't need to get it that bad from me, but I felt my life was in danger and that throws my normal restraints right the fuck out the window. The only difference from that time years ago and this, I saw this one coming and was able to defend myself.

Aryylas can confirm this entire thing, if he so chooses to. This isn't a "omg I'm fucking tough LOL", that's just a story to prove I CAN defend myself, but I fucking hate doing it.

Ninja edit response: Yes, we get it, I haven't chosen to have sex yet. That isn't insulting. It's more proof of how much of an idiot you are. Do you honestly think I am incapable of having sex? I'm no fucking model here, but I know I am not ugly. In the past month I've had to turn down 2 separate chicks, they respected that decision, and the sad part is that you can't. I need a certain level of emotional attachment to a woman for that, and it's rare for me to let a girl get that close these days. I'm too young to get serious. I enjoy being single too much right now.

There's a book for you.

[araby]

The same could be said to you, too, Diekan. OMFG I've used women for years to get my rocks off and now one has hurt ME!

why I heart martrae.

[Diekan]

Two incidents:

Incident number 1 - Maria - one of the tellers at my bank. We got to talking one day when I dropped in to deposit some checks. Ended up going out for a drink.

Maria: I like spending time you, you're a lot of fun can we see each other again?
Me: Well, I have to be perfectly honest here, I'm not sure we're entirely cut out for each other, I find you attractive, intelligent and very sweet, but I just don't feel the chemistry I need for a serious relationship.
Maria: I understand, it's nice that you're at least honest about it. Maybe we can still hang out?
Me: Sure we can do that, but it'll be casual, ok?
Maria: Yep...

I end up doing Maria.

Later down the road she text messages me, then calls me to tell me about the great guy she met and they click so well. Good. I am glad she found happiness. (psst we're still friends to this day).

Incident number 2 - Anna - met her at the gym.

Anna: I understand that we don't click, it's ok, do you think we can still get together?
Me: What are you looking for, something casual, something serious?
Anna: Well, ultimately something serious, I'm not one for playing the field.
Me: Understandable.
Anna: You want to go back to your place and open the bottle of wine you gave me?
Me: Well, I'm not sure that's a good idea. You're very sweet, but I'm not sure we're right for each other when it comes to a serious commitment.
Me: I'd prefer not to take advantage of what you're looking for. You're obviously not looking for a casual type of relationship and I'm not quite ready to completely settle down just yet.
Anna: You're right, casual isn't my thing... can I keep the wine though (giggles)?
Me: Absolutely!

I did not do Anna. (although the ass on her is enough to make a Latina jealous)...

(yep, I still talk to her when I see her at the gym now and then)...

Why she wanted to go back to my place AFTER I told her we didn't click? Why she still wanted to see me AFTER I told her we didn't click... Fuck if I know. But, I knew she wasn't looking for a wham bam hit and run deal - and she was not the type of person I could have seen myself with down the road.

So, yeah... you can see that I'm out to destroy the hearts of every woman I meet.. yep that's me... I lie to 'em, use 'em and dump 'em when I'm done!!!

Does anyone actually... never mind...

Oh and of course those are not actual word for word transcripts - before someone nitpicks them. Anna was a year ago and Maria was back in March'ish...

p.s. - for those of you wanting a idea for a date *gift* - go with a bottle of red wine. Yeah, it's old school, but it works. Give them the wine - if the night goes well she'll have an excuse to invite you "so do you want come in and pop the cork on the Shiraz?" You get the idea...

[Diekan]

What I'm failing to understand here is that you have two consenting adults, both with the understanding that [it] is going to be nothing more than dinner, drinks, maybe a little dancing and sex - nothing more. Both understand that a relationship is not part of the deal.

How in the hell is that USING someone?

Explain this to me... please... I'm all ears.

Some of you people acting like going out and getting laid is such an impossible task, "50 in two years is sooo high." You act like to consenting adults physically enjoying each other is the ultimate evil and such a terrible, terrible thing. W..in..T...F Those of you who aren't married... do you actually GO OUT? Do you actually DATE anyone?

Women have the very same desires as men. They have the same needs when it comes to that type of pleasure. Just because a chick is willing to throw down on the first date doesn't make her a whore. Cheating on your husband makes you a whore.

There's not a single person on this board that can't go out TONIGHT and get laid... it is not that hard to do.

Times have changed, women have a MUCH different outlook about sex now then they did 20 years ago, 50 years ago, whenever.

I'm just amazed... really and truly amazed.

[The Kizzy]

Diekan, you area man whore, why fight it?

[Martrae]

Most girls....and I say most here because I don't personally know any female that thinks different....equate sex with feelings of some sort. They don't really understand how a guy can want to have sex with them if the guy doesn't really, deep down inside, care for them a little.

[Harrison]

I'll hook up with random chicks all the time, I just won't have sex with any of them unless I have some connection with them beyond "yes, you're hot, that's why we're hooking up".

[araby]

if guys don't put out* on the first date I'm not interested.

[leah]

i'm sorry, but to me, promiscuity just isn't something to be proud of. imho, sex should mean something--it should be more than just a physcial interaction.

[Diekan]

I'll hook up with random chicks all the time, I just won't have sex with any of them unless I have some connection with them beyond "yes, you're hot, that's why we're hooking up".

That's fine.. That's YOU... That's YOUR choice.

If I came here and said that I told these women how much I loved them, how much I wanted to be with them - then nailed and dumped them leaving a broken heart in the wake... yes... then I could understand the hate. But, that is NOT what I do. Why is this so hard to understand?

If I pick up on the slightest hint that she's wanting much much more than a dinner and an orgasm - I absolutely will not invite her back to my place, nor follow into hers. No matter how tempted I am.

[Diekan]

if guys don't put on the first date I'm not interested.

Some times they don't. Some times they say "Well thanks for the evening, good luck to you" and that's the end of the story.

No hard feelings on my part or theirs... just the way it worked out.

[Diekan]

i'm sorry, but to me, promiscuity just isn't something to be proud of. imho, sex should mean something--it should be more than just a physcial interaction.

Just as I told Harrison, that's fine... that's YOU. There's nothing wrong with obeying YOUR belief system.

But, don't come here throwing stones and condemning me because I don't think like you. Which is exactly what a lot of you are doing in the end.

[Tikker]

Most girls....and I say most here because I don't personally know any female that thinks different....equate sex with feelings of some sort. They don't really understand how a guy can want to have sex with them if the guy doesn't really, deep down inside, care for them a little.

I don't mean this in a mean way but


welcome to the difference between men and women

[Gypsiyee]

the issue here, diek, is that you're insinuating that using you is what the girl you posted about did. you're basically saying that with how 'honest' you are it's not cool for a chick to play mind games - and you're right, I'm not a fan of mind games and deliberate dishonesty either.. the only thing Ive been trying to say all along is that in *this* situation, that's not the case. This girl didn't say she wanted to go into a serious relationship with you just to fuck you, etc - you guys had a thing going for a while, and it stopped

I don't get why you think that makes her fucked up.

[Martrae]

Most girls....and I say most here because I don't personally know any female that thinks different....equate sex with feelings of some sort. They don't really understand how a guy can want to have sex with them if the guy doesn't really, deep down inside, care for them a little.

I don't mean this in a mean way but


welcome to the difference between men and women

Yeah, I know...I was trying to explain it to Diekan, who apparently doesn't.

[Jay]

jay, how did you get so smart?

Trial and error? I also pride myself on having a deep understanding of the human mind. Also, for my psychology thesis I spent about 6 months with pregnant women of varying stages of pregnancy. I figure a regular woman is just a pregnant woman with the volume turned down.

[Jay]

i'm sorry, but to me, promiscuity just isn't something to be proud of. imho, sex should mean something--it should be more than just a physcial interaction.

Just as I told Harrison, that's fine... that's YOU. There's nothing wrong with obeying YOUR belief system.

But, don't come here throwing stones and condemning me because I don't think like you. Which is exactly what a lot of you are doing in the end.

Actually for women its more like how leah just said it and for guys its more like how you say it Diekan in reference to sex. That's not a belief system or opinion. That's an extremely popular scientific theory that you could apply to probably 90% of the male/female population.

[Eziekial]

if guys don't put out* on the first date I'm not interested.

I usually wait until the second date to put out* since I don't want girls to think I'm too easy.

[Eziekial]

i'm sorry, but to me, promiscuity just isn't something to be proud of. imho, sex should mean something--it should be more than just a physcial interaction.

Exactly Mar's point. You are just like most girls (and I don't mean that you are not special . Even the ones that are just interested in casual sex or being FWB will start to get caught up and think there is more to what's going then just sex if you are naked long enough.

[Drem]

whoa this thread is a trainwreck

most peoples' perceptions of sex or anything related is all molded when they're little kids by their parents. you seriously think people thought all the ridiculous shit that we think about hundreds or thousands of years ago? before condoms or people knew what STDs were etc? who even cares what somebody else thinks? sex is a wonderful vice. the greeks used to promote homosexuaity and so did the japanese. it used to be more coveted than heterosexual relationships. just do whatever makes you feel good. live your life outside the expectations of your family or friends. everything's situational

to me when somebody says something like, "sex needs to be the most sensual, serious thing in the entire world and it has to mean something" it just means they've never had any wild or exciting sexual experiences. they just hear stories about it or see it on TV. or they come on the NT and say how they totally could've done osmething like that but they chose not to. hurrrrrrrrrr

i prefer to live similar to diekan and cycle through women one after the other because i learn something from every one and any feeling of love or infatuation slowly fades after a few months. it's more emotionally stressful and costs a lot more money than settling down, but settling down is uninteresting to me. i'm more enchanted by the idea of setting up the C4 and blowing my life up every now and then just to see where i end up next. but i think i just embrace change. too much

[Tikker]

I didn't know drem was gay

[Drem]

why because i said something about it? YOU'RE BRILLIANT

[Diekan]

I just downloaded a song by ABBA, does that make me gay?

[Markarado]

I didn't know drem was gay

So do we need to add another name to the list?